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Old 11-26-2002 | 06:59 PM
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adios 2k3 Max

After reading all the threads about problems with the 5th gen Max and having most of them occuring on my car the 6k I have owned it, I decided to take some advice I saw on this website a dump the thing. Since then I have not had a moment of regret. Nissan's extremely poor build quality as well as the total lack of committment to customer satisfaction led to this decision. I took a horrible hit on the trade in (does $6,000 sound right? For a Nissan, yes.) but I am happy I did it. Adios Nissan-never again.
Old 11-26-2002 | 07:02 PM
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Re: adios 2k3 Max

Originally posted by daveful
After reading all the threads about problems with the 5th gen Max and having most of them occuring on my car the 6k I have owned it, I decided to take some advice I saw on this website a dump the thing. Since then I have not had a moment of regret. Nissan's extremely poor build quality as well as the total lack of committment to customer satisfaction led to this decision. I took a horrible hit on the trade in (does $6,000 sound right? For a Nissan, yes.) but I am happy I did it. Adios Nissan-never again.
Old 11-26-2002 | 07:03 PM
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Re: adios 2k3 Max

Originally posted by daveful
After reading all the threads about problems with the 5th gen Max and having most of them occuring on my car the 6k I have owned it, I decided to take some advice I saw on this website a dump the thing. Since then I have not had a moment of regret. Nissan's extremely poor build quality as well as the total lack of committment to customer satisfaction led to this decision. I took a horrible hit on the trade in (does $6,000 sound right? For a Nissan, yes.) but I am happy I did it. Adios Nissan-never again.
What car are/did you get in place??
Old 11-26-2002 | 07:14 PM
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Re: Re: adios 2k3 Max

Originally posted by Y2KSESteve

Yeah, really!
Old 11-26-2002 | 07:42 PM
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Maybe you got unlucky, we got Maxima 2003 SE in our family for more than 3 month now, the car is great!
Old 11-26-2002 | 08:10 PM
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So long...

Judging from his previous 6 posts, he probably went out and traded his Max for a Camry or an Accord. Good for him. He was not happy so he did something about it. I respect that.
However, I don't believe that he gave the Max a chance. He has one bad experience at a dealer and he makes up his mind that the car is gone. If we all sold our Max's because of a bad service experience, none of us would be here right now.
Old 11-26-2002 | 08:12 PM
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Sorry to see you go. I would be interest to know what new car you will get next that cost at the Maxima's price range.
Old 11-26-2002 | 08:26 PM
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What!?!?!?

Is he saying that he traded in a 2k3 Max for $6,000????
Old 11-26-2002 | 08:30 PM
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Re: What!?!?!?

Originally posted by spta97
Is he saying that he traded in a 2k3 Max for $6,000????
he lost 6K
Old 11-26-2002 | 08:45 PM
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Re: Re: What!?!?!?

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he lost 6K
The very second you take that max out of the dealership parking lot, its already lost $2K in value. Makes ya just wanna
Old 11-26-2002 | 09:31 PM
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Re: So long...

Originally posted by kronnman
Judging from his previous 6 posts, he probably went out and traded his Max for a Camry or an Accord. Good for him. He was not happy so he did something about it. I respect that.
However, I don't believe that he gave the Max a chance. He has one bad experience at a dealer and he makes up his mind that the car is gone. If we all sold our Max's because of a bad service experience, none of us would be here right now.
That's a good point about giving the Max a chance. For the $$$, you can't get anything better. In fact, you can't even get anything that COMES close to the Max. Perhaps there are some sour apples out there, in which case my sympathies go out to those people, but I think on average, this car is TERRIFIC!
Old 11-26-2002 | 09:32 PM
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I have had my 2003 SE for almost two months now. Bad paint. Slight glowing SES light. Uncomfortable seats. It took a FSTB, RSB, and springs to make the suspension "decent". The engine may or may not be 255 HP. Never the less, if I had it to do all over again, I might not have bought a Nissan either.

I can really relate to how this guy feels. Some times it's not about the money.
Old 11-27-2002 | 02:58 PM
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I replaced the Max with a WRX, superior in every way, except interior room.
Old 11-27-2002 | 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by daveful
I replaced the Max with a WRX, superior in every way, except interior room.
I respect your reasons for trading, but don't give me the superior in every way stuff. You can't compare apples to oranges.

You've owned the WRX for what, a few days now, please come back in 3 months and tell what you think of it then. Seriously.
Old 11-27-2002 | 03:24 PM
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Old 11-27-2002 | 03:37 PM
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Originally posted by daveful
I replaced the Max with a WRX, superior in every way, except interior room.


How can you say that one car is superior to another when they're not even remotely in the same class? One is the premier sport-compact. The other is a flagship family sedan. Yeah, apples to oranges.

Anyways, good luck with the WRX. I'm sure that by researching the various WRX forums you'll discover that the WRX has its own unique set of faults and problems, just like every other car out there.
Old 11-27-2002 | 03:42 PM
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Originally posted by olincoles
I have had my 2003 SE for almost two months now. Bad paint. Slight glowing SES light. Uncomfortable seats. It took a FSTB, RSB, and springs to make the suspension "decent". The engine may or may not be 255 HP. Never the less, if I had it to do all over again, I might not have bought a Nissan either.

I can really relate to how this guy feels. Some times it's not about the money.
ya it's not about the money it's just about how we are treated, you can get a better commitement to customer satisfaction from circuit city buying a $500 TV then nissan will give you for buyiung a 25-30K car, that's unacceptable.
Old 11-27-2002 | 03:43 PM
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Originally posted by dmbmaxima2k2
ya it's not about the money it's just about how we are treated, you can get a better commitement to customer satisfaction from circuit city buying a $500 TV then nissan will give you for buyiung a 25-30K car, that's unacceptable.
Sad but true
Old 11-27-2002 | 03:50 PM
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WRX's are nice but ...

The Maxima was not built to be a boy racer. It just happens to be a very fast "sporty" family sedan that we trick out. I have had 4 Maximas and driven more, the fit and finish has always been great. I beleive there may be some bugs in the "new" version but all cars have that, some to a greater degree. Look at the BMW 7 series, Audi, VW,Acura ...

They all have issues at some time or another, Nissan needs to crack down on thier lame dealers.

The WRX's fit and finish IMHO is about the Altima level, which is OK.

But hey, have fun!
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Re: WRX's are nice but ...

Originally posted by jbgoodmax
The Maxima was not built to be a boy racer. It just happens to be a very fast "sporty" family sedan that we trick out. I have had 4 Maximas and driven more, the fit and finish has always been great. I beleive there may be some bugs in the "new" version but all cars have that, some to a greater degree. Look at the BMW 7 series, Audi, VW,Acura ...

They all have issues at some time or another, Nissan needs to crack down on thier lame dealers.

The WRX's fit and finish IMHO is about the Altima level, which is OK.

But hey, have fun!
ya but those cars you mentioned that have bugs GET FIXED without fighting, screaming, arguing and going back and forth with dealers. i think russ said Acura will fix PAINT CHIPS.
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Old 11-27-2002 | 04:40 PM
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heck yeah....

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Old 11-27-2002 | 04:45 PM
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hmmm...

Originally posted by daveful
I replaced the Max with a WRX, superior in every way, except interior room.
Can you come back, after getting your car serviced by your Subaru dealer, and give us your experience with them?

If their service experience is better then Nissan, then all the props to them, being as small as they are. By the way, what's their powertrain warranty?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by TimW
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Nissin??




Originally posted by dmbmaxima2k2


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Yet another sad but true!

Love the cars...hate the company that makes/supports them.
Old 11-27-2002 | 09:22 PM
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Thw WRX, as quick and nimble as it is, is in an entirely different class than a Max. Hops the car works out ok, but, it sure is FUGLY. I mean, I'm a runner and when I go to the lake to run and forget where I parked my car, I say, "damn that's a good looking car, then I notice that it's my Max". Not hating just elaborating that. Oh well, A 5 series or an E-class is an upgrade, not a four cylinder bug-eyed rally-racer.
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Originally posted by daveful
I replaced the Max with a WRX, superior in every way, except interior room.

I just had my good laugh for the day.........
Old 11-27-2002 | 09:28 PM
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Re: Re: WRX's are nice but ...

Originally posted by dmbmaxima2k2


ya but those cars you mentioned that have bugs GET FIXED without fighting, screaming, arguing and going back and forth with dealers. i think russ said Acura will fix PAINT CHIPS.
How the heck do you know if all these automakers fix all that may be wrong......have you owned all these cars.,, do you have experience with all these autos? i know their are issues with nissan service.....but you cram this in the ground, post after post.......
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Originally posted by rubman
Thw WRX, as quick and nimble as it is, is in an entirely different class than a Max. Hops the car works out ok, but, it sure is FUGLY. I mean, I'm a runner and when I go to the lake to run and forget where I parked my car, I say, "damn that's a good looking car, then I notice that it's my Max". Not hating just elaborating that. Oh well, A 5 series or an E-class is an upgrade, not a four cylinder bug-eyed rally-racer.

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Re: Re: Re: WRX's are nice but ...

Originally posted by JAKE02


How the heck do you know if all these automakers fix all that may be wrong......have you owned all these cars.,, do you have experience with all these autos? i know their are issues with nissan service.....but you cram this in the ground, post after post.......
yeah, I get the feeling there are some over generalizations and major blind spectulation.
Old 11-27-2002 | 11:13 PM
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unhappy customers are pretty vocal ones.. thats business 101. NNA needs to hit the books.. again...

as far as others, we are all enthusiasts here.. we keep our ears to the ground. I think we know what cars are having higher problems than other. (like honda trannies...)
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If you don't like Nissan get out of here.
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http://www.clubwrx.net/forums/showth...light=complain

WRX Superiority???
Old 11-28-2002 | 12:54 PM
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I have a 2002 SE and I love it. I don't know what kind of problems you guys are seeing. I haven't had hardly one problem other that the paint. I don't know if the people that are having problems are just not taking good care of their cars or what. I love it
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Originally posted by Lumbee799
http://www.clubwrx.net/forums/showth...light=complain

WRX Superiority???
the grass is always greener
Old 11-28-2002 | 06:08 PM
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Up until about only a year ago, I didn't know about the WRX from Subaru. To me, car companies like Subaru, Kia, Daewoo, Suzuki and even Hyundai were all B-rated Japanese and Korean car companies. To this day, with the exception of "maybe" Hyundai, I still consider them B-rated car companies. I don't know....I just can't see myself buying any of these cars, even if their service depts were 100X better than Nissans!

If you can compare the WRX to the IS300, I'd take the IS300
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Originally posted by VQPowerSE
If you can compare the WRX to the IS300, I'd take the IS300
Duh..


Subaru isnt a B rated car company. I wouldnt admit not knowing who they were until the WRX came here. Their dealer network has really dwindled over the years and their service has been lacking.

My problems with Nissan leave me only a few choices in cars. Lots of great cars out there, only a handful of companies like Lexus who will support them (at least to the level of my expectations = $$$).

We shouldnt have to buy the I35 just to get a decent warranty.



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