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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 06:51 AM
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Put a 300m in it's place with my 2000 automatic.

I was on my way home from work on Friday and I have to drive through a traffic circle. I wait in line to get on the circle. As usual there is one a$$ who decides he doesn't want to wait in line, and cuts around 3 lanes of traffic. As I was getting on the circle, this a$$ with a black 02 300m almost hits my Max because he cut around the 3 lanes and cut me off. I immediately pulled up on him, hoping he is going the same way I am going....and he did. As we both exited the circle, at about 45, I accellerated and left him in my mirror. I was at about 110 and he wasn't too far off....so I knew he was trying. Then we pull to a light, he revs his weak little chrysler engine, then takes off like a bat out of hell. He had me at first, by 1/4 car length, then at about 40, I pulled away, then all he saw was me holding a big tricolored sucker(lollipop)out my window, and of course my taillights. I didn't think I could beat him with my 2000 automatic with no mods...but I did. Made my day. Thanks for letting me tell you all.
Old Dec 16, 2002 | 06:59 AM
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from one 2k automagic to another... nice work!
Old Dec 16, 2002 | 07:06 AM
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Originally posted by schuss
from one 2k automagic to another... nice work!
Thanks.
Old Dec 16, 2002 | 07:17 AM
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Re: Put a 300m in it's place with my 2000 automatic.

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I was on my way home from work on Friday and I have to drive through a traffic circle. I wait in line to get on the circle. As usual there is one a$$ who decides he doesn't want to wait in line, and cuts around 3 lanes of traffic. As I was getting on the circle, this a$$ with a black 02 300m almost hits my Max because he cut around the 3 lanes and cut me off. I immediately pulled up on him, hoping he is going the same way I am going....and he did. As we both exited the circle, at about 45, I accellerated and left him in my mirror. I was at about 110 and he wasn't too far off....so I knew he was trying. Then we pull to a light, he revs his weak little chrysler engine, then takes off like a bat out of hell. He had me at first, by 1/4 car length, then at about 40, I pulled away, then all he saw was me holding a big tricolored sucker(lollipop)out my window, and of course my taillights. I didn't think I could beat him with my 2000 automatic with no mods...but I did. Made my day. Thanks for letting me tell you all.
yeah, those things are 253hp, or something. with that kind of power, it should be competition for the 2k2/2k3's. but they're fat, inefficient, and poorly made. i read somewhere their 0-60 time is around 8 seconds. nice kill.
Old Dec 16, 2002 | 07:46 AM
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Again...I really didn't think I'd beat him. My car really surprised me. I just looked up the weight of the 300m, 3598lbs compared to my 3186. Those cars must be made quite badly if I beat it with 222hp. This just confirms what I've always thought...Chrysler sucks....with the exception of the Viper of course.
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Originally posted by Dave1220
Again...I really didn't think I'd beat him. My car really surprised me. I just looked up the weight of the 300m, 3598lbs compared to my 3186. Those cars must be made quite badly if I beat it with 222hp. This just confirms what I've always thought...Chrysler sucks....with the exception of the Viper of course.





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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 05:51 PM
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You must have been sleeping when you raced off the line...those things are porky and slow until 70mph Thats where there 2nd gear (winds up to about 89mph) comes into play
Old Dec 16, 2002 | 07:11 PM
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i wanna race that new 300m with the special badging and rims/tires, im not sure of the name because i dont care.
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Originally posted by ScreamingVQ
You must have been sleeping when you raced off the line...those things are porky and slow until 70mph Thats where there 2nd gear (winds up to about 89mph) comes into play
LOL, Actually I wasn't. I'm in upstate NY and there is tons of dust and salt on the raod, so I took off slow so I didn't spin to 2nd gear.
Old Dec 17, 2002 | 10:41 AM
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Mag RACING numbers...hehe

300M
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253hp, 0-60 = 7.8sec., 1/4-mile = 15.9@88.5mph, Top Speed = 118mph

'00 Maxima SE Auto
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222hp, 0-60 = 7.8sec., 1/4-mile = 15.9@88.0mph, Top Speed = 131mph(SE equipped)


Old Dec 17, 2002 | 11:19 AM
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Re: Mag RACING numbers...hehe

Originally posted by IceY2K1
300M
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253hp, 0-60 = 7.8sec., 1/4-mile = 15.9@88.5mph, Top Speed = 118mph

'00 Maxima SE Auto
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222hp, 0-60 = 7.8sec., 1/4-mile = 15.9@88.0mph, Top Speed = 131mph(SE equipped)


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The 300M driver surely must not have had his flux capacitor installed correctly. The mag times CLEARLY PROVE that it is fastAr, and there is no way a 2k automagic could pull on a 300M!!!
















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Nice kill!
Old Dec 18, 2002 | 07:53 AM
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Sweet kill. I took one out the other day. He was riding to close on a two way road. When the road opened up to two lanes he thought he would blow right by me, wrong. I matched his speed and pulled 3 cars on him to 90 and backed off, he kept going.
Old Dec 18, 2002 | 08:41 AM
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Originally posted by Acura2001CL-S
Sweet kill. I took one out the other day. He was riding to close on a two way road. When the road opened up to two lanes he thought he would blow right by me, wrong. I matched his speed and pulled 3 cars on him to 90 and backed off, he kept going.
Knowing the mentality of someone like that, he probably thought he outran you.lol
Old Dec 18, 2002 | 11:20 AM
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Nice Kill.

I've only gotten two kills with my 2k2 Auto so far in the stoplight races. The first was a modded S2000 but I think he didn't want to kill the clutch by slipping it enough to keep the revs up. I punched the throttle, the car hesitated while the t/c prevented wheelspin, and then the Max took off and I pulled on him after he got a 1/2 car lead. The second kill was a manual Jetta VR6. It was more difficult to dispatch him to his righful place behind me. I pulled away once we got above 50mph but, not by much. When will Nissan come out with a 5spd auto so I can get a properly spaced set of gear ratios?
Old Dec 18, 2002 | 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by LegalNinja
When will Nissan come out with a 5spd auto so I can get a properly spaced set of gear ratios?

Got G35?
Old Dec 18, 2002 | 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by LegalNinja
Nice Kill.

I've only gotten two kills with my 2k2 Auto so far in the stoplight races. The first was a modded S2000 but I think he didn't want to kill the clutch by slipping it enough to keep the revs up. I punched the throttle, the car hesitated while the t/c prevented wheelspin, and then the Max took off and I pulled on him after he got a 1/2 car lead. The second kill was a manual Jetta VR6. It was more difficult to dispatch him to his righful place behind me. I pulled away once we got above 50mph but, not by much. When will Nissan come out with a 5spd auto so I can get a properly spaced set of gear ratios?
From what I have read on this site, you can get an updated Transmission Control Module and solenoid. According to some threads, this will solve the trans slip problem from 1st to 2nd and change your shift points. From what I have read, once this is done, you will also need to install a transmission fluid cooler. There supposedly is a dramatic difference. Your automagic should be able to kill many others. Somewhere on this site is a list of the cars you should be able to kill.
Old Dec 18, 2002 | 12:17 PM
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????? Is the TCM an aftermarket upgrade or a part of a TSB? The "slippage" or problem I've had has been a result of the traction control stepping in to prevent me from spinning the tires. I've turned it off and spun the tires all the way through a six lane intersection here in Indy (82nd and Allisonville Rd for the locals). There is a lot of power going to those front wheels. BTW, can't I use synthetic fluid and get a similar result?
Old Dec 18, 2002 | 12:38 PM
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Originally posted by LegalNinja
????? Is the TCM an aftermarket upgrade or a part of a TSB? The "slippage" or problem I've had has been a result of the traction control stepping in to prevent me from spinning the tires. I've turned it off and spun the tires all the way through a six lane intersection here in Indy (82nd and Allisonville Rd for the locals). There is a lot of power going to those front wheels. BTW, can't I use synthetic fluid and get a similar result?
Actually, I think it is a OEM part....(ask Y2Kevse), he knows for sure. I know he did this upgrade to his 2k automatic(before he swapped it for a manual), and said it made a world of difference(as far as shifting harder at higher RPM's) and will extend the life of your tranny. The problem many are having with their 2k automatics is there is a delay shifting from 1st to 2nd when 'punching it'...like an actual tranny slip. From what I've read, this is the solution. As far as the synthetic fluid being sufficient instead of the tranny cooler in this case, I don't know enough to give you an opinion.
Old Dec 18, 2002 | 12:39 PM
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Re: Re: Put a 300m in it's place with my 2000 automatic.

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yeah, those things are 253hp, or something. with that kind of power, it should be competition for the 2k2/2k3's. but they're fat, inefficient, and poorly made. i read somewhere their 0-60 time is around 8 seconds. nice kill.

I ran into one on the highway a few days ago and he was trying to keep me behind him. We got to an open stretch and he took off. I dropped into 4th and passed him. Once I got in front of him, I flashed my hazzards just to rub it in.
Old Dec 18, 2002 | 12:42 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Put a 300m in it's place with my 2000 automatic.

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I ran into one on the highway a few days ago and he was trying to keep me behind him. We got to an open stretch and he took off. I dropped into 4th and passed him. Once I got in front of him, I flashed my hazzards just to rub it in.
Nice one. I always love it when a Chrysler is put in it's place....preferably a junk yard.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Put a 300m in it's place with my 2000 automatic.

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Nice one. I always love it when a Chrysler is put in it's place....preferably a junk yard.
It wasn't too hard. I really didn't have to drop it into 4th but I wanted to put an exclamation point on the pass.
Old Dec 18, 2002 | 01:08 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Put a 300m in it's place with my 2000 automatic.

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Nice one. I always love it when a Chrysler is put in it's place....preferably a junk yard.



That's until you meet the Neon SRT4(low low 14s car for <$20K)!

Heck even the autoMagic PT Cruiser(turbo) will own JoO, if your auto.
Old Dec 18, 2002 | 01:20 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Put a 300m in it's place with my 2000 automatic.

Originally posted by IceY2K1





That's until you meet the Neon SRT4(low low 14s car for <$20K)!

Heck even the autoMagic PT Cruiser(turbo) will own JoO, if your auto.
i hate knowing that.
Old Dec 18, 2002 | 01:27 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Put a 300m in it's place with my 2000 automatic.

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That's until you meet the Neon SRT4(low low 14s car for <$20K)!

Heck even the autoMagic PT Cruiser(turbo) will own JoO, if your auto.
I've seen the Neon SRT4...nice looking ride, and fast! Unfortunately, like all other Chryslers will fall apart, have tranny problems, and possibly electricute you within a year.lol
Old Dec 18, 2002 | 01:31 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Put a 300m in it's place with my 2000 automatic.

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I've seen the Neon SRT4...nice looking ride, and fast! Unfortunately, like all other Chryslers will fall apart, have tranny problems, and possibly electricute you within a year.lol

Can we say LEASE!

I've known a few people with PT Cruisers(non-turbo of course) and they all rant about how great it is, but of course everyone thinks their car is GOD, right?
Old Dec 18, 2002 | 01:37 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Put a 300m in it's place with my 2000 automatic.

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Can we say LEASE!

I've known a few people with PT Cruisers(non-turbo of course) and they all rant about how great it is, but of course everyone thinks their car is GOD, right?
I made the mistake of purchasing a Chrysler(1999 concorde) And all of the above happened....even the electricute part. Needless to say, I have a bad taste in my mouth for Chrysler.
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Re: Mag RACING numbers...hehe

Originally posted by IceY2K1
300M
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253hp, 0-60 = 7.8sec., 1/4-mile = 15.9@88.5mph, Top Speed = 118mph

'00 Maxima SE Auto
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222hp, 0-60 = 7.8sec., 1/4-mile = 15.9@88.0mph, Top Speed = 131mph(SE equipped)


2 things though

1) All of the 2k-2k1 Maxima's tested in MT,R&D,C&D are all cali-spec
2) All of the 2k-2k1 Maxima automatics weren't manually shifted





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Re: Re: Mag RACING numbers...hehe

Originally posted by ScreamingVQ
2 things though

1) All of the 2k-2k1 Maxima's tested in MT,R&D,C&D are all cali-spec
You wouldn't be referring to the hypothetical 10ft/lbs. of torque, would you?

2) All of the 2k-2k1 Maxima automatics weren't manually shifted

Niether was the 300M.
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good kill.....from a fellow automagic driver!
Old Dec 19, 2002 | 03:36 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Mag RACING numbers...hehe

Originally posted by IceY2K1

You wouldn't be referring to the hypothetical 10ft/lbs. of torque, would you?



Niether was the 300M.
Don't the Cali-spec models dyno slightly lower though?

Good point on the shift points, I should have looked it up before I typed my post

300M
1st gear 6,300rpms@45mph
2nd gear 6,300rpms@82mph
3rd gear 5,810rpms@118mph
4th gear 3,975rpms@118mph

They make peak HP at 6,400rpms, like the 2k-2k1's

Maxima
1st gear 6,100rpms@39mph
2nd gear 6,100rpms@70mph
3rd gear 6,100rpms@117mph
4th gear <unknown>
Old Dec 19, 2002 | 04:41 PM
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Re: Mag RACING numbers...hehe

Originally posted by IceY2K1
300M
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253hp, 0-60 = 7.8sec., 1/4-mile = 15.9@88.5mph, Top Speed = 118mph

'00 Maxima SE Auto
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222hp, 0-60 = 7.8sec., 1/4-mile = 15.9@88.0mph, Top Speed = 131mph(SE equipped)


http://www.theautochannel.com/vehicl...reviews/?TACH/

New Car/Review

The 2000 Nissan Maxima, An all new Maximum Effort.
by Larry Weitzman
Nissan Full Line Video footage (8:30)
......
The new body has increased rigidity both in bending and torsionally by as much as 30%. The door shuts like a bank vault. Up front are MacPherson struts and in the rear is a redesigned multi-link beam suspension. It is not fully independent, but the redesign relocated the lateral link behind the torsion beam which improves ride quality and driving stability while reducing road noise. Stabilizer bars are at both ends.

Steering is accurate rack and pinion power. Feel is spot on. The bottom line is that this new Maxima feels better balanced. Shock damping rebound feels more controlled and it is much easier to control during a throttle lift off in a tight corner.

In several laps at Laguna Seca, I found myself braking later and getting on the throttle earlier in eight/tenths driving. I say eight/tenths because I did a few laps with a Skip Barber professional at the wheel and saw what the Maxima could do at nine tenths and beyond.

In the hairpins and the corkscrews, you could dive into the corners lift off the throttle to get the rear end out and the front would tuck perfectly to get the car back on line while getting around the corner at speeds that would create severe pucker power. This Maxima is very impressive.

The SE and GLE came standard with 16 inch alloys shod with 215/55 H rated (130 mph continuous for 24 hours) tires. By the time you read this the SE will have as an option some gorgeous 17 inch alloys with 225/50 series V rated (149 mph continuous). That option should improve the cornering margins significantly.

On the street it inspires confidence. On Ponderosa Road's washboard, the suspension defied the washboard surface while controlling the biggest of potholes. In the bumpy corners, even with the non-independent torsion beam suspension, the rear end stayed firmly planted in the bumps. Green Valley Road, Apple Hill, Airport Road were effortless. It straightens out the twisties like a stretching machine.

On Latrobe Road, the Maxima was rock stable, handling the twisties like Disneyland's Space Mountain or the Matterhorn. It was so good I just started laughing. How are they going to top this one? Even with front wheel drive, I began wondering whether this Maxima is made in Tennessee or Bavaria.

But put the Maxima on the freeway and it becomes serene and composed. Tar strips and expansion joints don't exist for this car. The engine turns 2,700 at 70 mph with the manual and 2,400 in the automatic. Both are equally quiet. Use of the cruise control is a must. In testing both the top of the line GLE and the sport oriented SE with slightly stiffer spring rates and shock valving, I found very little difference in handling and ride quality. Both were excellent.


Full throttle acceleration turns the sedate sedan into a rocket sled without rails (unless your in a corner and then it feels as if it is on rails). The engine acts like its on full AB (afterburner or "reheat" if your English). The SE manual just plain scats from 0-60 in less than seven seconds with an average of 6.84 with two runs at 6.63 and 6.68 seconds and all but one of the eight runs were over seven seconds (7.11). The Millennium Falcon beware. This is an improvement of .66 seconds over the previous generation with a 5 speed manual. There is no substitute for horsepower.

Even the automatic, top of the line, GLE with a standard automatic averaged 7.54 seconds with two runs at 7.15 and 7.17 seconds. Were not done yet. In passing tests from 50-70 mph, the SE 5 speed averaged 3.97 seconds using second and third gears. Using third gear only lengthened that time to only 4.6 seconds. Up hill will slow that time to 5.15 seconds using gears two and three and 7.3 seconds using third gear only. Both these times are an improvement of about one second over the previous model test (a 1999 5 speed SE).

Even the automatic was slightly quicker passing that the previous 5 speed. 50-70 averaged 4.5 seconds and up hill slowed that time to an average of 6.26. Both times were marginally quicker than the previous generation.

Stopping power is provided by four wheel disc brakes with antilock as standard equipment. They are more powerful than the engine and their feel and modulation are excellent.






They generally do a very good job of testing.
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Long Post

Sorry for the long post, just wanted to give you guys a jist of what it can do. I have a 99 SE auto and AE auto.

My AE "feels" faster than my 99.

The 95 & 96(0-60 about 7.4) were faster than the 97-99.
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