I thought i had HLSD.. but its weird...

I have a 6speed w/ the pedals..

But since the snow dropped, it seems like when one tire is on snow and the other on wet pavement, it seems like its spinning only one tire..

Is there some way to really check if i have HLSD?? because its on my invoice too, and if i got shafted, someones going to DIE!!..

ED

 

jack up front end of car....spin one wheel, if other one spins reverse..no HSLD..if both spin same way...HLSD..i think..someone confirm

 

What do you mean by seems? Do you get a lot of wheelhop in that situation? If you do, it shows you have HLSD. Cause what happens is that it transfers power to the other wheel, that gets traction but then loses it and goes ina process of getting traction and then losing it again.

 

Rev motor to 4000 RPMs, drop clutch, if you leave 2 black lines over 100 feet long, you have the HSLD!

There is also a number on the tranny, its on the org here somewhere, do a search, but i like my method better

 

Most Excellent!

 

Hey, is the torque steer better with the HLSD? I have it and when I gun it from a stop I'm holding on for dear life to the wheel to keep it strait. Does that mean it would be WORSE without the HLSD????

 

thats some feeling huh? I would imagine without the HLSD you would just totally ROAST the tire! I really cant imagine not having the HSLD with all this power!

 

Yea. The hard part is changing into a higher gear while holding on tight to the wheel I guess the auto's have it on that one!

 

MiniRX& please understand this is a HLSD. The H stands for helical which is also torq assisted, the L stands for "limited" as in not always.

When you are on snow with out a lot of torq you will get tire spin but as you mash the pedal down power will transfer to the other wheel. If if is Really slick you will have to rev and dump to get both tires to spin.

Please be careful testing because even ABS can't stop your car from sliding 100% on snow.

 

If it's listed on the MSRP sticker for your car, then I would be willing to bet it's there. Just check to make sure the VIN on the sticker matches the VIN on the car. I doubt a dealership would be willing to lose their business and get a lawsuit on their hands by messing with the MSRP sticker.

 

I don't think you can out 100% faith in the sticker or in the dealer. When I bought my 2k I noticed that there were several Maximas on the lot that had 2 stickers on them - one was labeled with CA emissions and one (dated later) that was not. I'm in TX so we don't need to buy cars here with CA emissions so I thought this was damned strange. I asked the guys about it and they acted like I saw something that I shouldn't have and further stated that the cars didn't really have CA emmisions and the sticker was wrong. Needless to say I avoided those cars like the plague. To this day I don't know what they were doing with these cars and who bought them.

 

The cars here in MA only have one sticker, and I seriously doubt a dealership would risk losing their license/business in order to sell a $400 option by messing with the MSRP sticker. The MSRP sticker is mandated by federal law, and any tampering with it is considered a felony. If your car had a MSRP sticker that had a different VIN than your car, they can say that they placed it on the wrong car by accident, but if the VINs match, and there's no HLSD and the MSRP sticker says there should be, that's a felony right there!

 

Ed, I thought I had HLSD too, but it looks like I only have VLSD. HLSD cars are supposed to have the Pedals and Perforated leather. I have neither. It's not the dealers fault in my case, just my own ignorance. I bought mine November 30 2001 and I believe the HLSD ones were not available until January 2002. There must be some VIN code somewhere.

 

Actually, only the AE's had perforated leather.

 

Maybe in the US but not in Canada. Canadian 2002 SE/6pds/HLSD come with perforated leather.

 

True. Didn't notice the original post was pertaining to north of the border.

In that case all these posts about felonies are pretty much moot as well.

 

there is a code... under the hood on the right side of the engine, stamped in metal there's a number. I think it's the 6th or 7th character... if it's an "H" then it's HLSD, if it's... I forgot, an "A" maybe... then it's not.

I'll search around here and see if I can find exactly what it is.

 

I didn't notice either! I guess the whole legal tactic is out of the question (don't know Canadian laws).

 

It's true if the car was built before a certain date it HAS NO HLSD. I still have my brossure and that says it too. I'll check.

Here is another test I did. Found a deserted intersection that has some sand on the pavement. Made a full stop at the intersection. Took off slowly and turned one way making sure that the inside wheel is on sand and the outside one is on pavement. While turning gave some gas (still in first) to see if the whel that's on the sand looses traction. I took off no problem without wheelspin = hlsd.
BE CAREFUL IF YOU TRY THIS. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CONSEQUENCES.

 

holy crap...some of the tests you guys suggested is CRAZY...i dont have HLSD...and i can still make both of my tires lay down rubber. The only realy way to find out is to one..look at your New Car sticker..Two, Read the transmission code stamped on a metal plate under the hood. Three Jack up the front of one car and spin one wheel, if they both move in 1 direction HLSD. If the other one moves opposite non-HLSD.

 

LMFAO
china you must be tripping. LSD on the brain. J/K

The HLSD is still a LIMITED SLIP DIFFERENTIAL when he jacks the car up and turns one wheel by hand the other is still gonna spin the opposite way they're not always locked. The HLSD works with power from the engine, the more torq the more the 2 wheels lock. After acceleration the torq and HP drop and it's back to being a regular LSD. It has to be that way for cornering. So there is only 1 way to test and thats by having fun. Just not in traffic.

 

Simple solution:
1. Make SURE the car' wheels are well blocked!!!!!!!!!!
2. jack up one of the two front wheels...does not matter which one
3. Start car, place tranny in gear with foot firmly on brake...manual or auto, no difference
4. let go the brake (auto) and/or engage clutch SLOWLY, GENTLY and partially at first...what you;re trying to sense is if the car does indeed want to move forward off the jack.
5. If the wheel up in the air spins freely with the car making no effort of moving it's NOT a limited-slip, if the car moves in a way that suggests it's trying to put power to the pavement it is limited slip.
Just be careful the dang thing does not fall off the jack, will ya?

 

Wow is that a simple solution? It was 5 steps!

anyway, my way was the best, BURNOUTS BABY!!!!

 

and b) a helluva lot more fun!

 

 

what does vlsd stand for? Is this standard if u don't have hlsd (with 6 speed??)

 

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HA HA HA!!!!!!!
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!

Okay, now that you're laughing...it stands for Viscous Limited Slip Differential, a system whereby a viscous liquid (usually some form of silicone/other) is used to create friction between the clutch packs inside the diff so that one wheel does not slip (rotate) uncontrollably at the expense of the other.

HLSD (Helical Limited Slip Differential) uses helical gears inside the diff case to transfer torque to the wheel with the greatest traction rather than clutch packs..more of a mechanical solution than a 'controlled slip' solution the VLSD offers...

 

If im correct, VSLD stands for viscous limited slip diff. NOT standard on 02+ SE's. I have one in my SE-R, its a fluid filled diff, better than nothing, but then again NOTHING is like an HLSD...

 

Viscous.

It uses fluid, gear oil, to help the power transfer.

 

VERY LIMITED SLIP DIFFERENTIAL, see my post above.
Beatcha to it, too!

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

You BASTARD!!!!!!!!!! Got me by one minute!!!!

its all in good fun...stop following me around!!

 

hey, speak for yourself, will ya??

 

what did i tell you about following me around?

postwhore...


BTW, PM me with some info on your SSRs.. i want a set

 

i didn't see one max with perforated leather when i was car shoping and i went to several dealers. I thought in canada the hlsd was standard on the 03 SEs with leather pacakge just like the titanium pkg is.

 

I have the HLSD pedals,

I just thought it was strange that the car acts like this..

And yes i get front wheel drift all the time, and MAJOR torque steer because it seems like both wheels break traction

MAXRPM, you CANNOT have VLSD becuase it was not offered ever in any 2k2+

You have NO limited slip because your build date is November 2001..

My car was BUILT Jan 2002 i believe..

Oh well, i thought HLSD meant better traction..

ED

 

It does mean better traction. Better than not having it. Have you driven a 6spd with out it? Maybe you should try that to see the difference. If you turn a corner and mash the gas, you'll see a big difference in HLSD and no HLSD. Go take a test drive.

 

i did some testing tonight, gunning on slick roads when no one was around, it seems as though traction kicks in but since i'm running on stock tires the traction is minmal. If i had good rubber i think i would notice a big diff with the HLSD. but i belive it's there cause i do seem to get some traction even with the sh*t tires i got

 

Acura was smart --

They made the HLSD std. on all their 6-spd CL-S models... why bother even offering a 6-spd w/ all that low-end torque w/o it??

 

u know what guys im gonna have to agree with 92 SE-R 02 SE on this 1, that simple has to be the fastest and most satisfing way to doing this test hands down.

 

the problem is that i've seen 2k2's without hlsd at meets that did burnouts that leave two tracks of tire marks on the ground. Both were manual, no pedals, no hlsd stated on the sticker