hangin' with an M3
12-22-2002, 02:09 PM
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hangin' with an M3
hey all, i was driving along (enjoying my ride =)...) when this "M3" flys by me, then slows down up ahead of me. it was an older model, i guess he wanted to show me his M3 badge. so i pull up beside him, we cruise along a little while. in the meantime i was pondering if i should endulge this guy; i had a trunk load of presents, laundry and my suit case as well... anyhow i wanted to see if i could at least keep up with him. this was on the hwy, and there were quite a few cars with us. so we both go. he had the bling bling mags, exaust, lowered.. who knows what else under the hood.. hey it said M3.. so we both gun it, and to my surprise i kept up with him pretty good. so i'm thinking i must be dreaming, perhaps it was just badged as an M3. any how i also noticed that his engine would growl right before he accelerated. ok considering i actually kept up with him (even with my trunk full of my stuff), and the fact that he sounded like an auto; *do all M3's come with a manual only?* i'm thinking he was a poser BMW M3. !OH YEAH!.. i love my MAX! 
--no disrespect to all the auto drivers.
--no disrespect to all the auto drivers.
12-22-2002, 04:51 PM
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Yes the M3 comes in auto, and the older ones are very slow.
On another note presents do not count as massive weight gain and keeping you from beating anything...Dont' take this the wrong way, but i'm just really tired of seeing the weight thing on this forum waaaaaaay over played...If it's that big of a problem, strip the car, and don't eat...THis is not really for you as much as all.
On another note presents do not count as massive weight gain and keeping you from beating anything...Dont' take this the wrong way, but i'm just really tired of seeing the weight thing on this forum waaaaaaay over played...If it's that big of a problem, strip the car, and don't eat...THis is not really for you as much as all.
12-22-2002, 04:54 PM
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Originally posted by max'n out
Yes the M3 comes in auto, and the older ones are very slow.
Dont' take this the wrong way, but i'm just really tired of seeing the weight thing on this forum waaaaaaay over played...I
Yes the M3 comes in auto, and the older ones are very slow.
Dont' take this the wrong way, but i'm just really tired of seeing the weight thing on this forum waaaaaaay over played...I
12-22-2002, 04:56 PM
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Re: hangin' with an M3
Originally posted by MAXRN
hey all, i was driving along (enjoying my ride =)...) when this "M3" flys by me, then slows down up ahead of me. it was an older model, i guess he wanted to show me his M3 badge. so i pull up beside him, we cruise along a little while. in the meantime i was pondering if i should endulge this guy; i had a trunk load of presents, laundry and my suit case as well... anyhow i wanted to see if i could at least keep up with him. this was on the hwy, and there were quite a few cars with us. so we both go. he had the bling bling mags, exaust, lowered.. who knows what else under the hood.. hey it said M3.. so we both gun it, and to my surprise i kept up with him pretty good. so i'm thinking i must be dreaming, perhaps it was just badged as an M3. any how i also noticed that his engine would growl right before he accelerated. ok considering i actually kept up with him (even with my trunk full of my stuff), and the fact that he sounded like an auto; *do all M3's come with a manual only?* i'm thinking he was a poser BMW M3. !OH YEAH!.. i love my MAX! --no disrespect to all the auto drivers.
hey all, i was driving along (enjoying my ride =)...) when this "M3" flys by me, then slows down up ahead of me. it was an older model, i guess he wanted to show me his M3 badge. so i pull up beside him, we cruise along a little while. in the meantime i was pondering if i should endulge this guy; i had a trunk load of presents, laundry and my suit case as well... anyhow i wanted to see if i could at least keep up with him. this was on the hwy, and there were quite a few cars with us. so we both go. he had the bling bling mags, exaust, lowered.. who knows what else under the hood.. hey it said M3.. so we both gun it, and to my surprise i kept up with him pretty good. so i'm thinking i must be dreaming, perhaps it was just badged as an M3. any how i also noticed that his engine would growl right before he accelerated. ok considering i actually kept up with him (even with my trunk full of my stuff), and the fact that he sounded like an auto; *do all M3's come with a manual only?* i'm thinking he was a poser BMW M3. !OH YEAH!.. i love my MAX!
--no disrespect to all the auto drivers.
12-23-2002, 04:09 PM
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how does an auto sound?
12-23-2002, 05:12 PM
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okay, sorry to say....you guys are wrong
lol, just joking, i say this because of the following:
Even though the M3 has less hp than a maxima, it does 0-60 in 5.4 seconds, and does the quarter mile in 14.1 I have not seen a non boosted max even 6-speed do a quarter mile faster than that.
Also, I know that the M3 is faster because we own both cars...and the M3 handles much better, and is quicker in the straights.
I am not trying to get flamed here, and I'm not saying that he's lying. There are many times that I think someone is trying to race with me but the are just cruising and didn't even notice im there. I am telling my experience since I drive both cars at least twice a week.
lol, just joking, i say this because of the following:
Even though the M3 has less hp than a maxima, it does 0-60 in 5.4 seconds, and does the quarter mile in 14.1 I have not seen a non boosted max even 6-speed do a quarter mile faster than that.
Also, I know that the M3 is faster because we own both cars...and the M3 handles much better, and is quicker in the straights.
I am not trying to get flamed here, and I'm not saying that he's lying. There are many times that I think someone is trying to race with me but the are just cruising and didn't even notice im there. I am telling my experience since I drive both cars at least twice a week.
12-23-2002, 05:31 PM
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Originally posted by 2M0A0X2
Even though the M3 has less hp than a maxima, it does 0-60 in 5.4 seconds, and does the quarter mile in 14.1 I have not seen a non boosted max even 6-speed do a quarter mile faster than that.
Even though the M3 has less hp than a maxima, it does 0-60 in 5.4 seconds, and does the quarter mile in 14.1 I have not seen a non boosted max even 6-speed do a quarter mile faster than that.
Emax ran a 13.8 in his N/A '02 6spd. Nealoc ran a 13.9 in his N/A 4th gen 5spd. And Blu(sorry Blu forgot your handle)ran a 13.9 in his N/A '02 Auto. Not sure if there are others, those three are the only ones I could think of. Nealoc and Blu used slicks, Emax was on street tires I think.
12-23-2002, 08:34 PM
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Originally posted by max'n out
Yes the M3 comes in auto, and the older ones are very slow.
Yes the M3 comes in auto, and the older ones are very slow.
If this guy had an auto M3...then maybe it would be close...
but did anyone figure out what an auto tranny sounds like? too funny...
-vq
12-23-2002, 08:43 PM
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Originally posted by VQMAN
I own a 2003 SE w/6 speed, before I bought it, I test drove a 1998 M3 with a 5 speed. I am 6'3" so the M3 was too small, and I bought the Max...but slow? The M3 WITH MANUAL TRANNY would KILL any stock Maxima.
If this guy had an auto M3...then maybe it would be close...
but did anyone figure out what an auto tranny sounds like? too funny...
-vq
I own a 2003 SE w/6 speed, before I bought it, I test drove a 1998 M3 with a 5 speed. I am 6'3" so the M3 was too small, and I bought the Max...but slow? The M3 WITH MANUAL TRANNY would KILL any stock Maxima.
If this guy had an auto M3...then maybe it would be close...
but did anyone figure out what an auto tranny sounds like? too funny...
-vq
Yes an m3 with a manny is very quick, an m3 with auto tranny ( which if you read is what I wrote) is very slow.
12-23-2002, 08:53 PM
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Originally posted by max'n out
I too am 6'3 and think the m3's 95 through now are pretty comfy, at the very least of the max level if not better, at least the coupes, not the sedan thing they tried making.
Yes an m3 with a manny is very quick, an m3 with auto tranny ( which if you read is what I wrote) is very slow.
I too am 6'3 and think the m3's 95 through now are pretty comfy, at the very least of the max level if not better, at least the coupes, not the sedan thing they tried making.
Yes an m3 with a manny is very quick, an m3 with auto tranny ( which if you read is what I wrote) is very slow.
12-23-2002, 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by 2M0A0X2
okay, sorry to say....you guys are wrong
lol, just joking, i say this because of the following:
Even though the M3 has less hp than a maxima, it does 0-60 in 5.4 seconds, and does the quarter mile in 14.1 I have not seen a non boosted max even 6-speed do a quarter mile faster than that.
Also, I know that the M3 is faster because we own both cars...and the M3 handles much better, and is quicker in the straights.
I am not trying to get flamed here, and I'm not saying that he's lying. There are many times that I think someone is trying to race with me but the are just cruising and didn't even notice im there. I am telling my experience since I drive both cars at least twice a week.
okay, sorry to say....you guys are wrong
lol, just joking, i say this because of the following:
Even though the M3 has less hp than a maxima, it does 0-60 in 5.4 seconds, and does the quarter mile in 14.1 I have not seen a non boosted max even 6-speed do a quarter mile faster than that.
Also, I know that the M3 is faster because we own both cars...and the M3 handles much better, and is quicker in the straights.
I am not trying to get flamed here, and I'm not saying that he's lying. There are many times that I think someone is trying to race with me but the are just cruising and didn't even notice im there. I am telling my experience since I drive both cars at least twice a week.
what u raced was either a poser M3 or an auto(i didnt know they came it auto?
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12-23-2002, 09:03 PM
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Originally posted by Cumalot
Emax ran a 13.8 in his N/A '02 6spd. Nealoc ran a 13.9 in his N/A 4th gen 5spd. And Blu(sorry Blu forgot your handle)ran a 13.9 in his N/A '02 Auto. Not sure if there are others, those three are the only ones I could think of. Nealoc and Blu used slicks, Emax was on street tires I think.
Emax ran a 13.8 in his N/A '02 6spd. Nealoc ran a 13.9 in his N/A 4th gen 5spd. And Blu(sorry Blu forgot your handle)ran a 13.9 in his N/A '02 Auto. Not sure if there are others, those three are the only ones I could think of. Nealoc and Blu used slicks, Emax was on street tires I think.
12-23-2002, 09:32 PM
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M3 is more of a sport sedan than a Maxima. You can see M3 running in GT races, but you don't see a Maxima in GT races.
a fair compairision would more be like, GT-R Vs. M3.
However, a Maxima 6spd would give older M3's a run for its money.
a fair compairision would more be like, GT-R Vs. M3.
However, a Maxima 6spd would give older M3's a run for its money.
12-23-2002, 09:59 PM
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Originally posted by nismotech
M3 is more of a sport sedan than a Maxima. You can see M3 running in GT races, but you don't see a Maxima in GT races.
a fair compairision would more be like, GT-R Vs. M3.
However, a Maxima 6spd would give older M3's a run for its money.
M3 is more of a sport sedan than a Maxima. You can see M3 running in GT races, but you don't see a Maxima in GT races.
a fair compairision would more be like, GT-R Vs. M3.
However, a Maxima 6spd would give older M3's a run for its money.
12-23-2002, 10:54 PM
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i raced a 97 or so 4 door M3 on the highway one night, and i put about 3-4 cars on him each time... i would slow down to about 100 and let him catch up, then beat on him again. even if he was an auto, i was pretty surprised at how i was pulling on him.
i know he was racing for sure, i was cruising in the left lane and he blew by me in the middle lane so i chased after him, then flew by and kept toying with him.. he must have been pretty ****ed
i know he was racing for sure, i was cruising in the left lane and he blew by me in the middle lane so i chased after him, then flew by and kept toying with him.. he must have been pretty ****ed
12-23-2002, 11:03 PM
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Originally posted by JoesMAX
i raced a 97 or so 4 door M3 on the highway one night, and i put about 3-4 cars on him each time... i would slow down to about 100 and let him catch up, then beat on him again. even if he was an auto, i was pretty surprised at how i was pulling on him.
i know he was racing for sure, i was cruising in the left lane and he blew by me in the middle lane so i chased after him, then flew by and kept toying with him.. he must have been pretty ****ed
i raced a 97 or so 4 door M3 on the highway one night, and i put about 3-4 cars on him each time... i would slow down to about 100 and let him catch up, then beat on him again. even if he was an auto, i was pretty surprised at how i was pulling on him.
i know he was racing for sure, i was cruising in the left lane and he blew by me in the middle lane so i chased after him, then flew by and kept toying with him.. he must have been pretty ****ed
12-24-2002, 06:48 AM
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Originally posted by max'n out
I too am 6'3 and think the m3's 95 through now are pretty comfy, at the very least of the max level if not better, at least the coupes, not the sedan thing they tried making.
Yes an m3 with a manny is very quick, an m3 with auto tranny ( which if you read is what I wrote) is very slow.
I too am 6'3 and think the m3's 95 through now are pretty comfy, at the very least of the max level if not better, at least the coupes, not the sedan thing they tried making.
Yes an m3 with a manny is very quick, an m3 with auto tranny ( which if you read is what I wrote) is very slow.
but comfort...the Max and M3 might be the close, but not interior space...go test drive one overnight...when you get back in your Maxima, it'll feel like a huge...when you get in one for a couple of minutes, it seems about the same, but it is ALOT smaller inside. The Maxima is actually an inch or two longer than a 5 series...
12-24-2002, 08:34 AM
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Originally posted by 2M0A0X2
ahhhh.....no
ahhhh.....no
Older M3 especially Auto are not that fast. I raced S4 on the highway once and pulled a little bit on him. I think I will have no problems with M3. It also depends what on the year of that M3. Earlier models had less power I think.
Great car though, even the older ones look so good.
12-24-2002, 09:59 AM
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Originally posted by Dany
Ahhhh.....yes.
Older M3 especially Auto are not that fast. I raced S4 on the highway once and pulled a little bit on him. I think I will have no problems with M3. It also depends what on the year of that M3. Earlier models had less power I think.
Great car though, even the older ones look so good.
Ahhhh.....yes.
Older M3 especially Auto are not that fast. I raced S4 on the highway once and pulled a little bit on him. I think I will have no problems with M3. It also depends what on the year of that M3. Earlier models had less power I think.
Great car though, even the older ones look so good.
......yeah, 1996+ got a 3.2 litre horsepower with more torque while the 1995 had a 3.0 litre engine.
12-24-2002, 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by VQMAN
I wasn't really replying to you specifically, or trying to bust your ***** or nothin...
but comfort...the Max and M3 might be the close, but not interior space...go test drive one overnight...when you get back in your Maxima, it'll feel like a huge...when you get in one for a couple of minutes, it seems about the same, but it is ALOT smaller inside. The Maxima is actually an inch or two longer than a 5 series...
I wasn't really replying to you specifically, or trying to bust your ***** or nothin...
but comfort...the Max and M3 might be the close, but not interior space...go test drive one overnight...when you get back in your Maxima, it'll feel like a huge...when you get in one for a couple of minutes, it seems about the same, but it is ALOT smaller inside. The Maxima is actually an inch or two longer than a 5 series...
12-24-2002, 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by max'n out
I still say the m3 is better comfort wise, I'm not the only one ihave severel friends taller than me one thats 6'6, that says the m3 is more comfy than the maxima...Really it comes down to the opinion, but I say it's better cuz you sit flater and more laid out.
I still say the m3 is better comfort wise, I'm not the only one ihave severel friends taller than me one thats 6'6, that says the m3 is more comfy than the maxima...Really it comes down to the opinion, but I say it's better cuz you sit flater and more laid out.
12-24-2002, 12:00 PM
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Originally posted by 2M0A0X2
they modded? exactly
they modded? exactly
You said this..
Originally posted by 2M0A0X2
Even though the M3 has less hp than a maxima, it does 0-60 in 5.4 seconds, and does the quarter mile in 14.1 I have not seen a non boosted max even 6-speed do a quarter mile faster than that
Even though the M3 has less hp than a maxima, it does 0-60 in 5.4 seconds, and does the quarter mile in 14.1 I have not seen a non boosted max even 6-speed do a quarter mile faster than that
Originally posted by cumalot
Emax ran a 13.8 in his N/A '02 6spd. Nealoc ran a 13.9 in his N/A 4th gen 5spd. And Blu(sorry Blu forgot your handle)ran a 13.9 in his N/A '02 Auto. Not sure if there are others, those three are the only ones I could think of. Nealoc and Blu used slicks, Emax was on street tires I think.
Emax ran a 13.8 in his N/A '02 6spd. Nealoc ran a 13.9 in his N/A 4th gen 5spd. And Blu(sorry Blu forgot your handle)ran a 13.9 in his N/A '02 Auto. Not sure if there are others, those three are the only ones I could think of. Nealoc and Blu used slicks, Emax was on street tires I think.
I did 13's with my 17's and 18's. One time I was at the track there was a 5spd 95 M3 there with a intake and exhaust. We talked, his best time was a 14.1 all night @ 99 MPH, his 60's wher better then mine too.
12-24-2002, 12:27 PM
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I am 6'4" and i have more room in my 03 330Ci than in my 2001 Maxima. As far as performance goes, my BMW is much quicker than my maxima was fully modded. I had intake, chip, y-pipe, catback and sts in my max and it still took that thing longer to reach 135 than my stock 330Ci does. ANY Maxima would be hard pressed to take a BMW on the highway anywhere, from any speed. I still love my maxima, but after owning a BMW i don't think i will ever own anything else.
12-24-2002, 12:32 PM
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Originally posted by max'n out
I still say the m3 is better comfort wise, I'm not the only one ihave severel friends taller than me one thats 6'6, that says the m3 is more comfy than the maxima...Really it comes down to the opinion, but I say it's better cuz you sit flater and more laid out.
I still say the m3 is better comfort wise, I'm not the only one ihave severel friends taller than me one thats 6'6, that says the m3 is more comfy than the maxima...Really it comes down to the opinion, but I say it's better cuz you sit flater and more laid out.
but, size is fact.
the fact is, the Maxima has more interior space.
-vq
12-24-2002, 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by 2M0A0X2
ahhhh.....no
ahhhh.....no
-0-60 and 1/4 mile time
-suspension tuning
-Sport Feel
-Driving Pleasure
-Agility
I really can't see what catagory Maxima will beat M3 performance wise besides more HP and TQ, 6spd perhabs.
Luxury is something to be discuss at another time, so lets not go there yet.
12-24-2002, 01:23 PM
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Originally posted by 2M0A0X2
i say so too, because in the passenger seat in the maxima, there is a big lump on the floor, so u can't put your feet flat. In the M3, there is no such bump, and this matters for really long road trips.
i say so too, because in the passenger seat in the maxima, there is a big lump on the floor, so u can't put your feet flat. In the M3, there is no such bump, and this matters for really long road trips.
-vq
12-24-2002, 01:29 PM
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Originally posted by maxse01
I am 6'4" and i have more room in my 03 330Ci than in my 2001 Maxima. As far as performance goes, my BMW is much quicker than my maxima was fully modded. I had intake, chip, y-pipe, catback and sts in my max and it still took that thing longer to reach 135 than my stock 330Ci does. ANY Maxima would be hard pressed to take a BMW on the highway anywhere, from any speed. I still love my maxima, but after owning a BMW i don't think i will ever own anything else.
I am 6'4" and i have more room in my 03 330Ci than in my 2001 Maxima. As far as performance goes, my BMW is much quicker than my maxima was fully modded. I had intake, chip, y-pipe, catback and sts in my max and it still took that thing longer to reach 135 than my stock 330Ci does. ANY Maxima would be hard pressed to take a BMW on the highway anywhere, from any speed. I still love my maxima, but after owning a BMW i don't think i will ever own anything else.
with that, I drove my soon to be Max back to "State-Line-Nissan" and made the purchase....oh, and the M3 we are referring to in prior posts is smaller than the 330ci's you and I are talking about here...
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12-24-2002, 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by nismotech
So are you saying stock for stock a Maxima will match a M3(95-99)'s performance in terms of a "Sport Sedan"?
-0-60 and 1/4 mile time
-suspension tuning
-Sport Feel
-Driving Pleasure
-Agility
I really can't see what catagory Maxima will beat M3 performance wise besides more HP and TQ, 6spd perhabs.
Luxury is something to be discuss at another time, so lets not go there yet.
So are you saying stock for stock a Maxima will match a M3(95-99)'s performance in terms of a "Sport Sedan"?
-0-60 and 1/4 mile time
-suspension tuning
-Sport Feel
-Driving Pleasure
-Agility
I really can't see what catagory Maxima will beat M3 performance wise besides more HP and TQ, 6spd perhabs.
Luxury is something to be discuss at another time, so lets not go there yet.
performance...BMW
styling.......BMW
luxury........BMW
size..........Nissan
it's the only thing...
how the hell did this thread get into an arguement about the interior space of a 3 series BMW?
I guess that would be my fault...sorry everyone....
12-24-2002, 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by nismotech
So are you saying stock for stock a Maxima will match a M3(95-99)'s performance in terms of a "Sport Sedan"?
-0-60 and 1/4 mile time
-suspension tuning
-Sport Feel
-Driving Pleasure
-Agility
I really can't see what catagory Maxima will beat M3 performance wise besides more HP and TQ, 6spd perhabs.
Luxury is something to be discuss at another time, so lets not go there yet.
So are you saying stock for stock a Maxima will match a M3(95-99)'s performance in terms of a "Sport Sedan"?
-0-60 and 1/4 mile time
-suspension tuning
-Sport Feel
-Driving Pleasure
-Agility
I really can't see what catagory Maxima will beat M3 performance wise besides more HP and TQ, 6spd perhabs.
Luxury is something to be discuss at another time, so lets not go there yet.
Originally posted by VQMAN
you can't put you're feet on the floor if you're in the back seat sitting behind me in an M3, I have the front seat touching the back seat to keep, cause the seat is all the way back, and i lean it back real far so my head don't touch the ceiling...if you were in the back seat of an M3 while I was driving on a long trip, you wouldn't have any place to sit...the M3 is a kick a$$ car, but you can't say it has more room...just a....nevermind, I don't know why I'm wasting my time with you guys....
-vq
you can't put you're feet on the floor if you're in the back seat sitting behind me in an M3, I have the front seat touching the back seat to keep, cause the seat is all the way back, and i lean it back real far so my head don't touch the ceiling...if you were in the back seat of an M3 while I was driving on a long trip, you wouldn't have any place to sit...the M3 is a kick a$$ car, but you can't say it has more room...just a....nevermind, I don't know why I'm wasting my time with you guys....
-vq
12-25-2002, 08:16 AM
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yeah im with u on that, except in saving up for the 500hp V10 M5
12-25-2002, 12:37 PM
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Remember also that >>>>>
the M3's engine technology is about 10 years old, the M50 motors came out in the 5 series about 1991 and into the 3 series at 1992 with the 325is which only had 189HP as a 2.5 liter, but in late 1994 BMW bumped up the displacement to 3.0 liters a little hotter cams for the model year 1995 for the M3 and got 240hp. European M3 models first got the 286hp then the 321hp 3.0 liter motors.
12-25-2002, 01:00 PM
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Originally posted by Linh
With that much HP under the hood, i'm going with the car with AWD (quattro). I'm currently paying for a 2002 Altima SE and 2001 330i, I'm wondering how much trade in I can when the new S4 finally does arrive
With that much HP under the hood, i'm going with the car with AWD (quattro). I'm currently paying for a 2002 Altima SE and 2001 330i, I'm wondering how much trade in I can when the new S4 finally does arrive