sucks that they discontinued the sr20de here in the states...i loved that lil engine...smooth as hell all the way to 7000rpm....I was hoping they'd offer it in sr20vett form...or at least tt...but no luck...oh well since my sentra I've moved on to better things...the vq...I had a 98 Max, my wife has a 2001 Pathfinder, and now I'm driving a 2003 SE Max...w/240hp? no? 255? yes?

the verdict is still out on that though...

the 6 speed seemed to get to 120 NO PROBLEM...but took it's time to 130, and REALLY took it's time accelerating after that...well, compared w/0-80 performance...

-vq



BTW...no one told me how to get to the NJTP from Kansas !&%$@

 

I've only gotten my 2k2 6spd up to 145 once while videotapping a vette and two r1's racing, good thing I had zoom, and I took off before them, we were all alone on the highway and I took off and when I was coming behind them at about 30 mph or so, they took off , which allowed to stay close, for the few interested, the Z06 took the two bikes, I went up to 145 and the vette was beating them, then i started slowly letting off and my friend zoomed in on them going to 160+.

Needless to say, my next car will be a Vette.

 

i have a 02 GLE and couldn't pass 130 either. but my rpm kept rising. a 2k1 accord beat me.. er was it 2k. i forgot. he was ahead of me at 140 or so, and i was at 130. was like that for 15 secs. then the cop was there. and my friend got a ticket for 131. how sad. but this was when it was stock. well it doesn't make a difference anyways. but yea. i have a question. i went 130 on one highway, but the other highway i can only go 120. its ONLY those two highways. well those are the only two highways i actually went for top speed. but isn't that weird? is it because of elevation?

 

Running 138 in my 2K1 SE autotragic with a GTP on IH45 here in Texas. Speed/Rev limiter kicked in. So did his! Hee hee. Nobody won that run!

 

You've got a keen eye...

i am on SBN and cycle forums....

i just got the bike in May (1st bike) and it was at night (i dont like riding at night) in September or October. This summer i'll push it more.

 

I didn't read the rest of the posts after this one, but the USA speed limiter is for 155 MPH, same as Germany. Now, there are several ways to get your car/truck over that speed, but it requires modifications to the ECU's and such.

 

uh huh.

 

Yes...I hit the same wall at 129/130 coming back from Vegas in my 2k GLE. I was disappointed, But I know the only way around it is the Apexi-RSM. Wondering if I'm really die hard in going faster than 130....there is always my dad's vetta I can borrow for that. Hmmm...

Question...when it hits that wall does it just cut the fuel for the engine? I am wondering how harmful that is for the engine/drivetrain when you reach that point and the car kind of quits.

 

Hey Russ,
this is a little OT from this thread, but it says your stock dyno is 199.99 hp (260hp rated). Some Max's (6 sp ones) have been dynoing ~204-207 stock, so does that mean that perhaps the 255 is legit? Anyone feel free to chime in on this.

Sorry for jacking the thread a little, but I just didn't want to start another "15 hp" one.

Thanks.

 

155 is the maximum allowable vechicle speed in the US. It's a fact, not fiction. Other things can influence the individual vehicles speed limiters (like tires and such, just like my '02 Dakota 4.7L), but they can be bypassed (with relative ease).

 

 

I think the issue is that 255 hp is legit, but the Altimas 240hp is not.

A 6spd CL-S does 215-220 hp to the wheels. So its really hard to say.

 

I don';t see that being true.

When Z28s, TransAms, C5 vettes, Vipers, and many other cars top out higher than that

 

so your telling me a vette hits a rev limiter at 155

 

I'd have to agree with you on this. I don't see how someone would purchase a Mclaren F1 (USA street legal) and know that it's limited to 155mph (probably only 75% of it's potential).

I'm guessing some car makers have different agreements with the regulating agency, basically differing based on what vehicle they produce and how many of them they produce. To take the Mclaren example, there aren't too many sold/produced in the US, so it's ok to have 0.5% of all the vehicles being able to achieve ~200mph.

On the other hand, you don't want to have all mainstream cars going over 155mph because you'd have a lot more people flying around in them.

 

Most cars these days can at least hit 120. Even weak 4 cyc.

But the fact remains, that 155 mph is false.

They judge the limiter on the tires not some claimed 155mph max speed requirement. lol

 

 

All those fabulous American muscle cars are modified in order to go over the 155 barrier. I have no knowledge of the F1 because it doesn't list as a production car. I've owned plenty of extremely fast cars in my life, and none has gone over 160 in dead stock trim (this includes my '93 Vette ZR1). I had to pay and mod to get over that barrier. Believe me, the ZR1 I owned had plenty of ***** to get over that 160 mark after some "tuning".

 

WITH ALL DUE RESPECT

I think that 125 is too much, at that speed you are putting you life in danger specially in CT roads so many pot holes you hit one of those at 125 you are done or a deer...my advice is dont take your life for granted after so many accidents i dont what to know any speed after 80, if you are young you might think that $hit dont happen to you but trust me it will catch up!! my advice dont take it the wrong way! you dont want your family to spend the holidays in a hospital or at your funeral...


Playero anyone aggree?

 

Sorry but my TransAm tops out at 163 mph 6spd I had.

Oh yeah z28s top out the same. C5s top out around 170~. STOCK FORM. Vipers even faster.

Porche too.

This is all stock.

My picture above suits you really well..

Here it is again.

 

I don't think anyone can argue with your point, but it comes down to this--if someone wants to put THEIR life in jeopardy, then be my guest. As long as they do these speeds when there's nobody else on the road, I could really care less what they decide to do. I don't want to come across as a cold-hearted bastard, but the reality of it is that if someone wants to do it, then who am I to tell them otherwise???

Now, if they decide to pull speeds like that when there are other motorists around, that's a WHOLE different issue.

 

strait from caranddriver.com

Despite the hardtop's improved acceleration numbers, Chevy says it is not as aerodynamic as the coupe-the steeper slope of the hardtop's rear window creates some drag-inducing turbulence. Our tests confirmed that: Flat out, the hardtop hit 169 mph, whereas our most recent slant- backed coupe went 171 mph and earlier editions made it to 175 mph.

guess you need to contact them and tell them they are BS too

another link http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caran...lass=20&page=6

 

Well considering I just read this info from Road and Track and a Eurotuner (Dec) magazine, I'd have to say it's what is. I e-mailed NHTSB and asked them what the deal is, so I'll post the response here. I couldn't find the info I needed on their website concerning that issue, but it's not exactly labeled like what I'm looking for. There's also no need to be an ***, but I've read that's just your way (previous posts). Perhaps I'm incorrect, but I'm not an ***.

 

Too bad. You are wrong so deal with it.

Must be a reason why they just DON'T have it on there site....

Keep posting man, making more stupid comments. Cracks me up!

 

Not to call you out or anything, but the bikes must of been R6's not R1's. There is no way a vette will take a R1 (or an R6) in any roll on contest whatsoever (especially from 30 mph). The only place the vette may win is in overall top speed ( the R6 will lose after 135 as you saw but still not in a roll on from 30 mph), however by the time the vette actually catches the R1 you'll be in the next state ( the R1 radar top speed is about 169 mph, R6 around 145 mph, vette is in the 170's). Motorcyclist Magazine did a Z06 vs. GSXR 1000 comparo (gix 1000 is in same class as R1) and the Gixxr killed the vette. Period. They did track testing (Kevin schwantz drove both vehicles and he is a very reputable car and bike guy), 1/4 mile testing and 0-100-0 testing. Track times for the bike were higher than the vette by more than a few seconds, and the bike was only slower on 1 corner (i believe it was willow springs). At times the bike was over 60 mph faster than the car. The Gixxr will 1/4 around 10 seconds flat at 130 or so, Z06 around 12.3 or so around 118 mph. In the 0-100-0 contest the bike was stopped well before the car hit 100 mph.'

Good run though. I can't ever seem to get the vettes to challenge me on my R1.

 

Some of you people really serve no purpose in life (except to throw your non-existent clout around on the internet). If my info is not correct, then I'll be the first to admit it, but I'm merely relaying what I read in 2 different magazines (not that I believe everything I read, but I figured that someone in the testing industry would have more knowledge into the laws that me). Like I said, if you want to properly criticize my info/posts, have at it. I'll just ignore the rude a$$hole$ and continue posting the info I have available to me. Russ, do you attack people like this in face to face conversations, or are you just using you internet identity to do it? I guarantee that you wouldn't do that face to face. And if you would, well, then it still shows who the *** is.

 

You must be right, I never even knew there was such a thing as an r6, a few people told me that they didnt believe the bikes in the video were r1's because the vette wouldn't take them. I don't know much about bikes, but I will be buying an Aprillia Futura in 2003, I love the way they look, and it's something not everyone has.

 

Yeh, I was kind of wondering about that myself (how the Vette could beat R1s). I seriously doubt any of those cars can beat any 1000cc class bike (in acceleration, not top speed).

Also, are you sure the gixxer1k does the 1/4 in "only" 10 secs? Those bikes are...um...um..FAAAAASST (there's really no word that comes to mind). I saw some videos of that bike, and that thing was just FLYING! I'd love to have that bike, but just don't want to cut my life short.

 

The fact remains that you had wrong info. We are correcting you which in your post you said "FACT". Which it is not a fact. I have yet to see proof or any backup from your part. If there was such a law, all manufactures would go by it and we would all know it as car buffs. But there isn't. Don't believe everything you read. It is not always right.

 

time for your xanax!!

-vq



and you are WAY WRONG!!

 

Prove it. Provide information otherwise. If I'm wrong, then prove it. I'm finding info, so where's your's?

 

I know that BMW and Mercedes limit their cars to a maximum of 155 mph due to a long standing agreement that they would not get in a ****ing match over which company made the fastest car and thus saving a few lives in the process. Porsche never signed on and blasted through the 200 mph mark with the 959. Any BMW or Mercs that have top speeds in excess of 155 have been tuned in some way. Perhaps this is why you are confused. There is no mandated top speed for cars.

 

Whats there to prove. There is nothing out there about it, so I can't prove it

But everyone knows your info is false. You have yet to put the facts up.

 

I disagree. You have a vested interest in caring. What about my auto insurance costs going up when you hit a tree? What about my medical insurance going up because I had to help subsidize your helicopter trip to the hospital? Stupid people hit you in the wallet sooner or later.

Beyond all that, how about having some common sense and taking it to the track?

 

That may be the case with the info I read in Eurotuner, but what about the other mag (July Issue, or maybe June issue). If that's the case, it makes sense in the Eurotuner b/c they were talking about the 2002 M3.

 

ok, some of the cars on this url are not stock...but some of them are...many over 155...

do you believe us now?ya damm newb?

http://www.allcars.org/top_lists_topspeed.html

-vq

 

ok, some of the cars on this url are not stock...but some of them are...many over 155...

do you believe us now? ya damm newb?

http://www.allcars.org/top_lists_topspeed.html

-vq

 

If those were indeed R-1's, The riders were not trying, or they coulden't ride. THERE IS NO WAY A VETTE WILL BEAT AN R-1!!!! So I think you are either full of **** or the riders did not know what they were doing. Your'e comparing apples to oranges. Vettes are fast, but NOT bike fast!!!!!

 

-go to bike forum

www.yurbikesucks.com

-vq

 

Relax Buddy, Sorry if I got carried away, just letting this guy know the facts. Top speed on the SE is limited to 130, A Vette is around 170, WS6 is about 163-165. There is NO government limit on a (sports cars) top speed. An R-6 or any 600 SS is 155-160 in the right conditions. These are the facts!