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Old 01-05-2003 | 11:48 AM
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Impressions on Apexi Filter.....

I've had it installed for a week. Im thrilled with the performance on the A$$ Dyno ! The car trully pulls harder throught the entire RPM range, not just on top ! Its not an oily filter, so ( cross my fingers )... No Maf problems.. ... The sound with the Frankencar I have got a bit louder, which is awesome ... I can't wait to test it on the track. In my opinion, it has to be worth at least .5-.1 sec !!!
Purchased it from Steve @ www.Frankencar.com

Old 01-05-2003 | 12:14 PM
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hey mannn...how much was it? ive been wanting to get one but wasnt sure; also, if you could do me a favor, get me the part # or whatever cuz i think i have a friend who can pick these up for me...thanks man
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Same here, my car really feels a bit more pepy with the apexi setup. Well see what happens at the track in the spring
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Re: Impressions on Apexi Filter.....

Originally posted by kloogy
I've had it installed for a week. Im thrilled with the performance on the A$$ Dyno ! The car trully pulls harder throught the entire RPM range, not just on top ! Its not an oily filter, so ( cross my fingers )... No Maf problems.. ... The sound with the Frankencar I have got a bit louder, which is awesome ... I can't wait to test it on the track. In my opinion, it has to be worth at least .5-.1 sec !!!
Purchased it from Steve @ www.Frankencar.com

Definitely get to the track soon! If it helps at all I'll really consider getting it!
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Considering the elevation at Calif Speedway, and a Dirty A$$ KN that I had at the time. I would expect low 14's for sure....on my 19's... The track opens again in Feb, as far as I know !

But I am going to the Dyno in 2 weeks... !
Old 01-05-2003 | 02:40 PM
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hey mannn...how much was it? ive been wanting to get one but wasnt sure; also, if you could do me a favor, get me the part # or whatever cuz i think i have a friend who can pick these up for me...thanks man
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Old 01-05-2003 | 02:51 PM
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I noticed the same thing Kloogy. The car pulls throughout the entire rpm range. I had a problem with my Berk/K&N setup where the car would bog and hesitate to downshift or shift too soon. With the K&N my car sounded horribly loud. I checked everything and even reinstalled making sure all connections were sealed. After installing the Apexi/FrankenCar all of my problems went away. The sound of the midpipe is much better now.
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Some people might think it's a little pricey, but it's worth it for sure. All independent testing I read showed that it was the best flowing filter of all.... guess it was right !
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Originally posted by kloogy
Some people might think it's a little pricey, but it's worth it for sure. All independent testing I read showed that it was the best flowing filter of all.... guess it was right !
does anybody know if this kit from frankencar will fit the injen intake??????
Old 01-05-2003 | 04:24 PM
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Filter Test

Originally posted by kloogy
Some people might think it's a little pricey, but it's worth it for sure. All independent testing I read showed that it was the best flowing filter of all.... guess it was right !
Check out this thread. The URL link may be of some interest to you.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....58#post1670958
Old 01-05-2003 | 04:50 PM
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does anybody know if this kit from frankencar will fit the injen intake??????
Yes it should.
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Originally posted by kloogy
Some people might think it's a little pricey, but it's worth it for sure. All independent testing I read showed that it was the best flowing filter of all.... guess it was right !
Just curious, what's the maintanence, or should I say "replacement" intervals on the apexi's? I heard the K&N's, you had to change like every 6 months.
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Apexi replacement every 30,000 or so miles.
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Originally posted by kloogy
Some people might think it's a little pricey, but it's worth it for sure. All independent testing I read showed that it was the best flowing filter of all.... guess it was right !
Not to mention that it filters the best of all the high flow filters.
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Just curious, what's the maintanence, or should I say "replacement" intervals on the apexi's? I heard the K&N's, you had to change like every 6 months.
Believe it or not the manufacturer claims "Zero Maintenance - Lifetime Use." for this filter.
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I can't wait, I ordered my Apexi from steve last week!! I did so do to subpar performance with the injen filter. However, I may switch the etire intake to franken car for the winter to see how it goes. Maybe I won't want to put the injen back on......
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Re: Impressions on Apexi Filter.....

[QUOTE]Originally posted by kloogy
[B]I've had it installed for a week. Im thrilled with the performance on the A$$ Dyno ! The car trully pulls harder throught the entire RPM range, not just on top ! Its not an oily filter, so ( cross my fingers )... No Maf problems.. ... The sound with the Frankencar I have got a bit louder, which is awesome ... I can't wait to test it on the track. In my opinion, it has to be worth at least .5-.1 sec !!!
Purchased it from Steve @ www.Frankencar.com

I agree with you that the Apexi filter is one of the best, if not the best aftermarket filter available. I know that several org members have blown their MAF while using the Apexi filter which I find discouraging. Mine just gave out last week and I was using the Monster Flow filter with the Frankencar intake. If your MAF sensor gives out anytime soon, please be sure to let us know. I want to reinstall the Frankencar intake (which I love) on my car with the Apexi filter however I don't won't another blown MAF. Decisions, descision...
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Re: Impressions on Apexi Filter.....

Originally posted by kloogy
I've had it installed for a week. Im thrilled with the performance on the A$$ Dyno ! The car trully pulls harder throught the entire RPM range, not just on top ! Its not an oily filter, so ( cross my fingers )... No Maf problems.. ... The sound with the Frankencar I have got a bit louder, which is awesome ... I can't wait to test it on the track. In my opinion, it has to be worth at least .5-.1 sec !!!
Purchased it from Steve @ www.Frankencar.com
The performance gain you feel is probably a placebo effect, unless your original filter was dirty. I have done some G-tech testing with my JWT vs No Filter and there was no measureable difference.
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Interesting. Very interesting.
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I noticed the same thing Kloogy. The car pulls throughout the entire rpm range. I had a problem with my Berk/K&N setup where the car would bog and hesitate to downshift or shift too soon. With the K&N my car sounded horribly loud. I checked everything and even reinstalled making sure all connections were sealed. After installing the Apexi/FrankenCar all of my problems went away. The sound of the midpipe is much better now.
So the solution to the boomy intake note is to get an Apexi filter and NOT sell my mid-pipe?
Old 01-05-2003 | 08:22 PM
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So the solution to the boomy intake note is to get an Apexi filter and NOT sell my mid-pipe?
I'm not sure what you mean by this. I had a problem with my Berk/K&N and FrankenCar midpipe. First off, the combination was loud at all rpm's and my car had quite a bit of drone coming up hills and around the 5k rpm mark I got a horrible engine sound and at 6k the engine sounded like it was all maxed out and ready to blow. With the Apexi I have none of these problems. The sound is wonderful all the way to redline. I also had problems with gears shifting in the auto too soon as the rpms climbed and a tremendous lag before downshifting when I needed the power. All these problems are gone now. I checked and reinstalled the Berk intake to make absolutely sure there were no leaks and I was unable to find any. I also inspected the filter and couldn't find any noticeable flaws. I really don't know what to contribute the problems with, but I don't really care anymore.
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The performance gain you feel is probably a placebo effect, unless your original filter was dirty. I have done some G-tech testing with my JWT vs No Filter and there was no measureable difference.
You must think Im some kind of a moron who just started modding cars to make a comment like that . We all know how reliable G-tech testing is....
Old 01-05-2003 | 11:19 PM
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Re: Re: Impressions on Apexi Filter.....

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The performance gain you feel is probably a placebo effect, unless your original filter was dirty. I have done some G-tech testing with my JWT vs No Filter and there was no measureable difference.
That is a Stupid comment. I have been modding cars since I was 16. I swapped filters at the track, and Injen and my dirty a$$ KN, and lost ..5 sec with the Injen, and my mph went down to 89 mph. Make sure before you blast someone, you know who you are talking to , mr Placebo !
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Re: Re: Re: Impressions on Apexi Filter.....

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That is a Stupid comment. I have been modding cars since I was 16. I swapped filters at the track, and Injen and my dirty a$$ KN, and lost ..5 sec with the Injen, and my mph went down to 89 mph. Make sure before you blast someone, you know who you are talking to , mr Placebo !
do i sense some tension there?
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That is a Stupid comment. I have been modding cars since I was 16. I swapped filters at the track, and Injen and my dirty a$$ KN, and lost ..5 sec with the Injen, and my mph went down to 89 mph. Make sure before you blast someone, you know who you are talking to , mr Placebo !
Well obviously you need some leasons on what intakes do to Maximas. A filter isnt going to make a noticeable difference, UNLESS its dirty. You already had removed the stock airbox and middle section which realize the most hp/tq gains. If you think the filter gained a noticeable amount of hp, good for you. I am just pointing out that it was a placebo effect.
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That is a Stupid comment. I have been modding cars since I was 16. I swapped filters at the track, and Injen and my dirty a$$ KN, and lost ..5 sec with the Injen, and my mph went down to 89 mph. Make sure before you blast someone, you know who you are talking to , mr Placebo !
Well obviously you need some leasons on what intakes do to Maximas. A filter isnt going to make a noticeable difference, UNLESS its dirty. You already had removed the stock airbox and middle section which realize the most hp/tq gains. If you think the filter gained a noticeable amount of hp, good for you. I am just pointing out that it was a placebo effect.
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That is a Stupid comment. I have been modding cars since I was 16. I swapped filters at the track, and Injen and my dirty a$$ KN, and lost ..5 sec with the Injen, and my mph went down to 89 mph. Make sure before you blast someone, you know who you are talking to , mr Placebo !
Well obviously you need some leasons on what intakes do to Maximas. A filter isnt going to make a noticeable difference, UNLESS its dirty. You already had removed the stock airbox and middle section which realize the most hp/tq gains. If you think the filter gained a noticeable amount of hp, good for you. I am just pointing out that it was a placebo effect.
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Does anyone know if an Injen CAI setup has ever caused an MAF failure in a 2k2. I postulate that with the filter further down stream of the maf, there was be a lower incidence of failure. I have had my injen for about 4000 miles now and no problems. But the filter does look awfully small.

The Apexi filter will fit an Injen CAI, but according to an email Steve sent me it will cost about $110 for filter and brackets. Plus as previously stated, there were 2 MAF failures during the use of this filter. I'm beginning to think it may be b/c of vibration instead of oil.

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Re: Re: Re: Impressions on Apexi Filter.....

Originally posted by kloogy
That is a Stupid comment. I have been modding cars since I was 16. I swapped filters at the track, and Injen and my dirty a$$ KN, and lost ..5 sec with the Injen, and my mph went down to 89 mph. Make sure before you blast someone, you know who you are talking to , mr Placebo !
A half second with a filter change? That's ri-god-damn-diculous actually. Kloogy...I like you my man...but that is REALLY hard to believe.
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A half second with a filter change? That's ri-god-damn-diculous actually. Kloogy...I like you my man...but that is REALLY hard to believe.
I was there and saw him run and the slip afterwards. The injen filter belongs to me, we swapped it out cause we thought he'd do better with a clean filter instead of a dirty one. The injen filter is much smaller than the K&N kloogy had with his frankencar.
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Re: Impressions on Apexi Filter.....

I just installed my Frankencar/Apexi Intake this weekend. Man I love the sound. I updated some pictures on my cardomain site. Let me know what you think. Here is my homepage.



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I just installed my Frankencar/Apexi Intake this weekend. Man I love the sound. I updated some pictures on my cardomain site. Let me know what you think. Here is my homepage.



I think it looks kind of crooked.
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I think it looks kind of crooked.
I know. By the time I realized it it was too late. I did not feel like fixing it until today. How does it look now?

New Pics

Please let me know what you think. I definately want it to look great.

Thanks for the feedback. I do appreciate your opinion.
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I know. By the time I realized it it was too late. I did not feel like fixing it until today. How does it look now?

New Pics

Please let me know what you think. I definately want it to look great.

Thanks for the feedback. I do appreciate your opinion.
Much better!
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I have this filter and I admit that it is a great filter. However it is not a lifetime use filter. It is good for only 30,000 miles.

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To all the morons who doubt the gains of a filter, like Lario said. I ran a 15.2 @ 89 MPH with an Injen filter compared to a 14.8 @ 94 with a dirty KN.... You want to think IM nuts, go ahead. I dont care what you think. Just like all you asswipes said that my 19's would put me in the 15's.. I proved you wrong.. time to make you eat crow again ! ... It's my pleasure ! ..Bling_wow ~
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Originally posted by kloogy
To all the morons who doubt the gains of a filter, like Lario said. I ran a 15.2 @ 89 MPH with an Injen filter compared to a 14.8 @ 94 with a dirty KN.... You want to think IM nuts, go ahead. I dont care what you think. Just like all you asswipes said that my 19's would put me in the 15's.. I proved you wrong.. time to make you eat crow again ! ... It's my pleasure ! ..Bling_wow ~
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Originally posted by kloogy
To all the morons who doubt the gains of a filter, like Lario said. I ran a 15.2 @ 89 MPH with an Injen filter compared to a 14.8 @ 94 with a dirty KN.... You want to think IM nuts, go ahead. I dont care what you think. Just like all you asswipes said that my 19's would put me in the 15's.. I proved you wrong.. time to make you eat crow again ! ... It's my pleasure ! ..Bling_wow ~
Well even so, there are measurable differences that can come about when at the track. A lot of it is not controlled by the driver, some of it is. You can very easily have two different runs almost a second apart. The only formidable way to see a difference is with a dyno run. Maybe when you go to the San Diego dyno day you can test different intakes, and filters then? No need to get all heated up.
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Kloogy and all, I see a lot of posts about these CAI's, most seem to be put in SE's. I have a GXE and wonder if the same setup will fit in mine, I would like the Frankencar/Apexi combo.



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