me and wrx go at it.
01-31-2003, 01:07 PM
#1
me and wrx go at it.
me and my frat bros have been talking smack about whos car is faster. im a 2k2 se auto vs. my friends wrx 5 speed. i figured it would be a drivers race and it was. we raced from 50-100. he gets the jump and i play catchup and by 90 hes at my back doors. 2nd race was from a 5mph roll. he spools up the turbo and im like ohhh ****.. on that race i fall back to 1/4 a car behind but end up at his back bumpber at 95 when i let off. 3rd race was from a stoplight. now this is where i figured the wrx would smoke me because of awd. i take off, i ease the throttle, i didnt brake torque or anything and at 65 when i let off im at his front doors. i was surprised at how close i was. im assuming because the more torque i had made up for having awd. now the funny part. my friend after asks me.. where did the 30 more hp you had go? i just laughed and said i dunno ask nissan. and btw i kept my car in 3rd and not od each race. i was pleased with the results. its basically whoever gets the jump wins the race. now we did this in a safe area where their were no cars.. or cops
so no flaming for street racing. were all gonna go to the track soon to race the 1/4. and were gonna video that. i was gonna video today but my bro with the camera was in class. they would have been great videos too. im sure that a 6 speed can take a wrx in my opinion.
so no flaming for street racing. were all gonna go to the track soon to race the 1/4. and were gonna video that. i was gonna video today but my bro with the camera was in class. they would have been great videos too. im sure that a 6 speed can take a wrx in my opinion.
01-31-2003, 01:15 PM
#2
Congrats!
BTW the 30hp difference is in the 5-sp vs auto gearing disadvantage and the fact that the maixma is heavier?? I don't know how much the awd wrx weighs. I know they are small but the awd system puts 100s of lbs to the total weight.
BTW the 30hp difference is in the 5-sp vs auto gearing disadvantage and the fact that the maixma is heavier?? I don't know how much the awd wrx weighs. I know they are small but the awd system puts 100s of lbs to the total weight.
01-31-2003, 01:24 PM
#3
Originally posted by Jeff92se
Congrats!
BTW the 30hp difference is in the 5-sp vs auto gearing disadvantage and the fact that the maixma is heavier?? I don't know how much the awd wrx weighs. I know they are small but the awd system puts 100s of lbs to the total weight.
Congrats!
BTW the 30hp difference is in the 5-sp vs auto gearing disadvantage and the fact that the maixma is heavier?? I don't know how much the awd wrx weighs. I know they are small but the awd system puts 100s of lbs to the total weight.
01-31-2003, 01:35 PM
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Originally posted by slickrick
yeah he was saying how he thinks my car is heavier. but i think we are within 100lbs of eachother. yeah i know the diff. is the autovs stick but i was thinking maybe if i had the extra 5-10 horses that we are "supposed to have" it could have been slightly different. im not saying i agree that im missing hp but hey, if i had an intake and it was colder out im sure i coulda taken him. but all in all im just really pleased with my car and the results with my autotragic.
yeah he was saying how he thinks my car is heavier. but i think we are within 100lbs of eachother. yeah i know the diff. is the autovs stick but i was thinking maybe if i had the extra 5-10 horses that we are "supposed to have" it could have been slightly different. im not saying i agree that im missing hp but hey, if i had an intake and it was colder out im sure i coulda taken him. but all in all im just really pleased with my car and the results with my autotragic.
That's just my opinion, so please don't flame me.
01-31-2003, 01:40 PM
#5
Originally posted by MrCollegeGuy
That's ok, let him win. He has to look at that ugly a$$ car (inside and out!) every day. That's just my opinion, so please don't flame me.
That's ok, let him win. He has to look at that ugly a$$ car (inside and out!) every day.
That's just my opinion, so please don't flame me.
01-31-2003, 01:43 PM
#7
Originally posted by MrCollegeGuy
That's ok, let him win. He has to look at that ugly a$$ car (inside and out!) every day. That's just my opinion, so please don't flame me.
That's ok, let him win. He has to look at that ugly a$$ car (inside and out!) every day.
That's just my opinion, so please don't flame me.
01-31-2003, 01:48 PM
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Originally posted by MadMax1996
I'd definitely have to agree with that! Those WRX's are pretty cool cars, but dang they look like **** from the inside! No way I could justify that purchase. The interior looks so cheeeesy!!
I'd definitely have to agree with that! Those WRX's are pretty cool cars, but dang they look like **** from the inside! No way I could justify that purchase. The interior looks so cheeeesy!!
+ = CollegeGuy, you're not the only one with that opinion
01-31-2003, 02:05 PM
#9
This makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside! cuz my friend just bought a 2k3 WRX and he's been talkin non-stop shyt about my max. I just say "We'll take it to the streets someday and I'll shut yer *** up!" but I always thought that I was going to get spanked bad. Anyways good luck on your next run and I'm lookin forward to that video. Peace.
BTW I have a 2k3 SE
BTW I have a 2k3 SE
01-31-2003, 02:27 PM
#10
the wrx will spank the 2k3, IMHO...i have a 2k3....
on a side note..check out this wrx...man this **** is sic as HAYLE!!
http://www.mastrowrx.com/SEMA_wrx2.jpg
on a side note..check out this wrx...man this **** is sic as HAYLE!!
http://www.mastrowrx.com/SEMA_wrx2.jpg
01-31-2003, 02:29 PM
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Originally posted by skandalouz
the wrx will spank the 2k3, IMHO...i have a 2k3....
on a side note..check out this wrx...man this **** is sic as HAYLE!!
http://www.mastrowrx.com/SEMA_wrx2.jpg
the wrx will spank the 2k3, IMHO...i have a 2k3....
on a side note..check out this wrx...man this **** is sic as HAYLE!!
http://www.mastrowrx.com/SEMA_wrx2.jpg
01-31-2003, 02:33 PM
#12
Originally posted by skandalouz
the wrx will spank the 2k3, IMHO...i have a 2k3....
on a side note..check out this wrx...man this **** is sic as HAYLE!!
http://www.mastrowrx.com/SEMA_wrx2.jpg
the wrx will spank the 2k3, IMHO...i have a 2k3....
on a side note..check out this wrx...man this **** is sic as HAYLE!!
http://www.mastrowrx.com/SEMA_wrx2.jpg
01-31-2003, 08:42 PM
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You lost to weight, I'm pretty sure the WRX is 300 lbs lighter. Makes a huge difference. If I remember correctly, 300 lbs at that weight class = about 42 HP. I remember reading that in that weight area, every 7 lbs = 1 HP. It's a rolling scale so that formula doesn't work as an absolute, it works for a typical weight range of a fully equiped car.
They are small cars. I was surprised to find out that they wiegh as much as my two door eagle talon. My brother in law just got a 2k3 wrx with all the sport options. I like the car. He's not broken it yet so we haven't raced. We plan on racing with my 2k3 6 speed HLSD max and my 95 Eagle Talon which is modded (no match for a stock WRX)
2k3 6 speed HLSD ????
'95 Eagle Talon 13.38@101mph
They are small cars. I was surprised to find out that they wiegh as much as my two door eagle talon. My brother in law just got a 2k3 wrx with all the sport options. I like the car. He's not broken it yet so we haven't raced. We plan on racing with my 2k3 6 speed HLSD max and my 95 Eagle Talon which is modded (no match for a stock WRX)
2k3 6 speed HLSD ????
'95 Eagle Talon 13.38@101mph
02-01-2003, 07:27 AM
#17
Stock the WRX is pretty slow. I would expect you to take him at higher speeds if he's stock. The gearing is terrible on the WRX as well so it hurts more over 60 MPH. Then again, if you mod the WRX, it will slaughter a Maxima. I had a WRX until yesterday and with my Stage III package had 420 HP and was low 12 second car on street tires. All bolt ons of course. Highway power was ungodly to say the least. I had no problems at all killing E46 M3's and C5 Vettes. I put it back to stock and traded her in on a 03 Maxima SE for my little brother. I should have left a note in the glovebox for the new owner:
"This car ran low 12's"
I have a deposit on an STi and should be able to get about 600 HP out of that with bolt ons. Bottom line? Stock is one thing but those WRX's can be vicious if tuned right.
"This car ran low 12's"
I have a deposit on an STi and should be able to get about 600 HP out of that with bolt ons. Bottom line? Stock is one thing but those WRX's can be vicious if tuned right.
02-01-2003, 07:36 AM
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Originally posted by slickrick
yeah he was saying how he thinks my car is heavier. but i think we are within 100lbs of eachother. yeah i know the diff. is the autovs stick but i was thinking maybe if i had the extra 5-10 horses that we are "supposed to have" it could have been slightly different. im not saying i agree that im missing hp but hey, if i had an intake and it was colder out im sure i coulda taken him. but all in all im just really pleased with my car and the results with my autotragic.
yeah he was saying how he thinks my car is heavier. but i think we are within 100lbs of eachother. yeah i know the diff. is the autovs stick but i was thinking maybe if i had the extra 5-10 horses that we are "supposed to have" it could have been slightly different. im not saying i agree that im missing hp but hey, if i had an intake and it was colder out im sure i coulda taken him. but all in all im just really pleased with my car and the results with my autotragic.
His WRX is quite a bit lighter. That's really awesome that an auto Max can hang with a WRX like that.
02-01-2003, 01:31 PM
#19
Originally posted by Guru
I had a WRX until yesterday and with my Stage III package had 420 HP and was low 12 second car on street tires. All bolt ons of course. Highway power was ungodly to say the least. I had no problems at all killing E46 M3's and C5 Vettes. I put it back to stock and traded her in on a 03 Maxima SE for my little brother. I should have left a note in the glovebox for the new owner:
"This car ran low 12's"
I have a deposit on an STi and should be able to get about 600 HP out of that with bolt ons. Bottom line? Stock is one thing but those WRX's can be vicious if tuned right.
I had a WRX until yesterday and with my Stage III package had 420 HP and was low 12 second car on street tires. All bolt ons of course. Highway power was ungodly to say the least. I had no problems at all killing E46 M3's and C5 Vettes. I put it back to stock and traded her in on a 03 Maxima SE for my little brother. I should have left a note in the glovebox for the new owner:
"This car ran low 12's"
I have a deposit on an STi and should be able to get about 600 HP out of that with bolt ons. Bottom line? Stock is one thing but those WRX's can be vicious if tuned right.
Different strokes for different folks I guess....
02-01-2003, 07:47 PM
#20
Stage III is $7500 and takes power from 227 HP to 420 HP on pump 93 octane fuel. More power is possible on race fuel. No NOS and all can be installed by customer. I don't know of any Maxima running low 12's on street tires with only $7500 invested in it.
02-01-2003, 07:54 PM
#21
Originally posted by Guru
Stage III is $7500 and takes power from 227 HP to 420 HP on pump 93 octane fuel. More power is possible on race fuel. No NOS and all can be installed by customer. I don't know of any Maxima running low 12's on street tires with only $7500 invested in it.
Stage III is $7500 and takes power from 227 HP to 420 HP on pump 93 octane fuel. More power is possible on race fuel. No NOS and all can be installed by customer. I don't know of any Maxima running low 12's on street tires with only $7500 invested in it.
Because it's very difficult to get a Maxima into the 12's on ANY tires.
02-01-2003, 08:00 PM
#23
I've always said give respect where it is due. The WRX would be a fun car to have. It would also be great where all wheel drive is needed. Now this is a Maxima site, so I would guess that most people here would rather have something that is a bigger car and (ok my opinion here) a little nicer on the inside, hence a Maxima. The WRX with the right driver and low $$$ mods should (SHOULD) spake a Maxima. Now that said, you would still have to look at the thing every time you got into it... Give me the Maxima every day of the week and twice on Sunday. If my total goal was to drive fast in a straight line I would buy a 94-94 Mustang with the 5.0 (tons of mods available) and throw a blower and another few bucks on it and roast the 1/4 mile... I don't, I want to be able to give someone a ride and make them realize why I didn't buy a 3 series BMW...
02-01-2003, 08:27 PM
#24
Originally posted by EJH Y2K SE
I've always said give respect where it is due. The WRX would be a fun car to have. It would also be great where all wheel drive is needed. Now this is a Maxima site, so I would guess that most people here would rather have something that is a bigger car and (ok my opinion here) a little nicer on the inside, hence a Maxima. The WRX with the right driver and low $$$ mods should (SHOULD) spake a Maxima. Now that said, you would still have to look at the thing every time you got into it... Give me the Maxima every day of the week and twice on Sunday. If my total goal was to drive fast in a straight line I would buy a 94-94 Mustang with the 5.0 (tons of mods available) and throw a blower and another few bucks on it and roast the 1/4 mile... I don't, I want to be able to give someone a ride and make them realize why I didn't buy a 3 series BMW...
I've always said give respect where it is due. The WRX would be a fun car to have. It would also be great where all wheel drive is needed. Now this is a Maxima site, so I would guess that most people here would rather have something that is a bigger car and (ok my opinion here) a little nicer on the inside, hence a Maxima. The WRX with the right driver and low $$$ mods should (SHOULD) spake a Maxima. Now that said, you would still have to look at the thing every time you got into it... Give me the Maxima every day of the week and twice on Sunday. If my total goal was to drive fast in a straight line I would buy a 94-94 Mustang with the 5.0 (tons of mods available) and throw a blower and another few bucks on it and roast the 1/4 mile... I don't, I want to be able to give someone a ride and make them realize why I didn't buy a 3 series BMW...
02-01-2003, 09:20 PM
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>>>This makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside! cuz my friend just bought a 2k3 WRX and he's been talkin non-stop shyt about my max. I just say "We'll take it to the streets someday and I'll shut yer *** up!" but I always thought that I was going to get spanked bad. Anyways good luck on your next run and I'm lookin forward to that video. Peace.
BTW I have a 2k3 SE <<<<
Dude, if your friend got the 03 STi....then he would absolutly destroy us (i have 03 6 speed also). That car is lighter, all wheel drive and has quiet a few extra horses pulling it.
if a 227 hp 02 WRX can run the 60 in 5.4 seconds, what do you think the same car with 276 hp (??? correct me if i'm wrong with teh figures!!! please!!) would do to a 255 hp family seden that cross the 60 in 6 flat? Dude i'm not trying to put down the max here, i love it, every part of it, the sound of the VQ reving pass 6 grand makes me **** my self. But we gotta be realistic, a 03 max 6 speed (stock) vs. a 03 STi 5 speed (stock)....we will get raped off the line.
BTW I have a 2k3 SE <<<<
Dude, if your friend got the 03 STi....then he would absolutly destroy us (i have 03 6 speed also). That car is lighter, all wheel drive and has quiet a few extra horses pulling it.
if a 227 hp 02 WRX can run the 60 in 5.4 seconds, what do you think the same car with 276 hp (??? correct me if i'm wrong with teh figures!!! please!!) would do to a 255 hp family seden that cross the 60 in 6 flat? Dude i'm not trying to put down the max here, i love it, every part of it, the sound of the VQ reving pass 6 grand makes me **** my self. But we gotta be realistic, a 03 max 6 speed (stock) vs. a 03 STi 5 speed (stock)....we will get raped off the line.
02-02-2003, 11:09 AM
#26
Originally posted by hansolo1
I just went to the subaru and then the Nissan site. The curb weight of a WRX 5speed is 3087 lb. and the curb of an Auto 2K2 Se is 3357 lb.
His WRX is quite a bit lighter. That's really awesome that an auto Max can hang with a WRX like that.
I just went to the subaru and then the Nissan site. The curb weight of a WRX 5speed is 3087 lb. and the curb of an Auto 2K2 Se is 3357 lb.
His WRX is quite a bit lighter. That's really awesome that an auto Max can hang with a WRX like that.
02-02-2003, 11:24 AM
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No matter how much hp you have in your WRX - it's still a WRX and it's fugly. At least the Maxima, BMWs and Corvettes are classy cars
Dude, if your friend got the 03 STi....then he would absolutly destroy us
Wow, a shiny ugly car
02-02-2003, 11:59 AM
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Linh, you got those three things correct! 
If you think about it, AWD launch is much more forgiven compared to the front wheel 255 hp launch. Max's got good speed, but without excellent launch, alot of car will be able to walk all over my 6 speed.
slickrick, you need to make sure the dude that's gonna be videotaping in the wrx weighing at least 300 pounds
If you think about it, AWD launch is much more forgiven compared to the front wheel 255 hp launch. Max's got good speed, but without excellent launch, alot of car will be able to walk all over my 6 speed.
slickrick, you need to make sure the dude that's gonna be videotaping in the wrx weighing at least 300 pounds
02-02-2003, 08:49 PM
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Originally posted by Guru
Stage III is $7500 and takes power from 227 HP to 420 HP on pump 93 octane fuel. More power is possible on race fuel. No NOS and all can be installed by customer. I don't know of any Maxima running low 12's on street tires with only $7500 invested in it.
Stage III is $7500 and takes power from 227 HP to 420 HP on pump 93 octane fuel. More power is possible on race fuel. No NOS and all can be installed by customer. I don't know of any Maxima running low 12's on street tires with only $7500 invested in it.
02-02-2003, 10:25 PM
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MAX2000JP
low 12's isn't impressive to you? what are you driving anyways? Besides i really think it's gonna run a little faster than low 12's with 420 hp. 300hp STi stock should run in the mid 13's comfortablly, and with 120 hp and some decent tires, i'm sure it can make 12 flat. also....you tell me you can spend 3250 dollars and make a 01 SS 11 second car? dude, whatever you are smoking you need to share with us!
by the way, my father finally convereted his 02 Z06 Ls6 into the 427 CID Lingenfelter. sure it's able to run 11's now, but that was a hefty amount that he had to pay, not mention it took a little over 1 month, and shipping there and back from Delaware to Indiana wasn't cheap neither!
If you want pic, i will get some for you to proof my pop's Lingenfelter
low 12's isn't impressive to you? what are you driving anyways? Besides i really think it's gonna run a little faster than low 12's with 420 hp. 300hp STi stock should run in the mid 13's comfortablly, and with 120 hp and some decent tires, i'm sure it can make 12 flat. also....you tell me you can spend 3250 dollars and make a 01 SS 11 second car? dude, whatever you are smoking you need to share with us!
by the way, my father finally convereted his 02 Z06 Ls6 into the 427 CID Lingenfelter. sure it's able to run 11's now, but that was a hefty amount that he had to pay, not mention it took a little over 1 month, and shipping there and back from Delaware to Indiana wasn't cheap neither!
If you want pic, i will get some for you to proof my pop's Lingenfelter
02-03-2003, 05:32 AM
#33
Originally posted by MAX2000JP
IMO 7.5K running low 12s isnt impressive. If you were to put half that into a LS1 it would run high 11s. I was looking into a WRX for a while and its great to mod, but to make it fast you have to shell out $$$$.
IMO 7.5K running low 12s isnt impressive. If you were to put half that into a LS1 it would run high 11s. I was looking into a WRX for a while and its great to mod, but to make it fast you have to shell out $$$$.
Point is try to do that with a Maxima or any other new car under $28,000 and you'll have a tough time. The new EVO will also be just as easy or even easier to make that fast as well.
02-03-2003, 05:47 AM
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Originally posted by MadMax1996
How much $$$ are we talkin? What it comes down to is if you have the cash you can make your car go as fast as you want.
How much $$$ are we talkin? What it comes down to is if you have the cash you can make your car go as fast as you want.
Yep...I can build a Ford Fairlane with 500+ HP...question is...Why bother unless you like the car.
02-03-2003, 06:25 AM
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Originally posted by LordHowe
MAX2000JP
low 12's isn't impressive to you? what are you driving anyways? Besides i really think it's gonna run a little faster than low 12's with 420 hp. 300hp STi stock should run in the mid 13's comfortablly, and with 120 hp and some decent tires, i'm sure it can make 12 flat. also....you tell me you can spend 3250 dollars and make a 01 SS 11 second car? dude, whatever you are smoking you need to share with us!
by the way, my father finally convereted his 02 Z06 Ls6 into the 427 CID Lingenfelter. sure it's able to run 11's now, but that was a hefty amount that he had to pay, not mention it took a little over 1 month, and shipping there and back from Delaware to Indiana wasn't cheap neither!
If you want pic, i will get some for you to proof my pop's Lingenfelter
MAX2000JP
low 12's isn't impressive to you? what are you driving anyways? Besides i really think it's gonna run a little faster than low 12's with 420 hp. 300hp STi stock should run in the mid 13's comfortablly, and with 120 hp and some decent tires, i'm sure it can make 12 flat. also....you tell me you can spend 3250 dollars and make a 01 SS 11 second car? dude, whatever you are smoking you need to share with us!
by the way, my father finally convereted his 02 Z06 Ls6 into the 427 CID Lingenfelter. sure it's able to run 11's now, but that was a hefty amount that he had to pay, not mention it took a little over 1 month, and shipping there and back from Delaware to Indiana wasn't cheap neither!
If you want pic, i will get some for you to proof my pop's Lingenfelter
02-03-2003, 06:29 AM
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Originally posted by Guru
LOL, yeah but remember, that's a $55,000 car. we're talking about a $23,000 car. Some guys are never satisfied I guess.
Point is try to do that with a Maxima or any other new car under $28,000 and you'll have a tough time. The new EVO will also be just as easy or even easier to make that fast as well.
LOL, yeah but remember, that's a $55,000 car. we're talking about a $23,000 car. Some guys are never satisfied I guess.
Point is try to do that with a Maxima or any other new car under $28,000 and you'll have a tough time. The new EVO will also be just as easy or even easier to make that fast as well.
02-03-2003, 05:03 PM
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Originally posted by MAX2000JP
My point was that everyone thinks that the WRX is cheap to make fast. If you look at the kits to run 12s, its not that good of a deal. Now, you do get some decent gains from running basic bolt ons, which I personally see as a good bang for the buck.
My point was that everyone thinks that the WRX is cheap to make fast. If you look at the kits to run 12s, its not that good of a deal. Now, you do get some decent gains from running basic bolt ons, which I personally see as a good bang for the buck.