Just recieved information on the VQ35 Stillen headers
02-03-2003, 04:52 PM
#1
Just recieved information on the VQ35 Stillen headers
I just spoke to my old buddy Dean at stillen about there new headers. Heres the information I gathered.
Guestimate on the price is in the $500 range.
They added approx. 30 HP in the midrange.
They are going through final testing now, Iwas told to call back in 30 day's (I know.. hehe)
I think these will be ready very soon and I have very high expectations for them. Stillen does an excelent job with what they make.
Just some side info on the advatages of headers
. The oem headers weigh 9 lb's each. Ceramic will weigh about a lb each. So by just replacing the headers a 16 lb weight reduction can be seen.
Anyone looking for a ligtly used Stilln Y-pipe?
Guestimate on the price is in the $500 range.
They added approx. 30 HP in the midrange.
They are going through final testing now, Iwas told to call back in 30 day's (I know.. hehe)
I think these will be ready very soon and I have very high expectations for them. Stillen does an excelent job with what they make.
Just some side info on the advatages of headers
. The oem headers weigh 9 lb's each. Ceramic will weigh about a lb each. So by just replacing the headers a 16 lb weight reduction can be seen.Anyone looking for a ligtly used Stilln Y-pipe?
02-03-2003, 05:02 PM
#2
From what I read, If I have the right information, you where the one that installed headers on your precious maxima. My point is that I was wondering how much louder do headers make your car. Reason I ask is because I test drove a 00 Honda Civic Si that was modded. It was really loud and attributed to the headers it had. So do headers make a car louder. I hear the y-pipes don't but even tough I have a 00 maxima I am curious if headers would make the maxima loud and annoying like Civics with exhaust mods?
02-03-2003, 05:17 PM
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They added approx. 30 HP in the midrange.
02-03-2003, 05:35 PM
#6
Originally posted by Linh
are these $tillen numbers or independent numbers? $tillen claims a 27HP increase for the 3.5 Altima exhaust system, which is basically just 2 relabled magnaflow cans, so I'm HIGHLY skeptical on the 30HP claim.
are these $tillen numbers or independent numbers? $tillen claims a 27HP increase for the 3.5 Altima exhaust system, which is basically just 2 relabled magnaflow cans, so I'm HIGHLY skeptical on the 30HP claim.
02-03-2003, 05:43 PM
#7
Those of you doubting the power gain. Keep in mind that the 30HP includes the gains those with y-pipes would have already found. The headers would replace everything up to that Cat unless I'm wildly mistaken.
02-03-2003, 06:03 PM
#9
Originally posted by MichaelAE
Those of you doubting the power gain. Keep in mind that the 30HP includes the gains those with y-pipes would have already found. The headers would replace everything up to that Cat unless I'm wildly mistaken.
Those of you doubting the power gain. Keep in mind that the 30HP includes the gains those with y-pipes would have already found. The headers would replace everything up to that Cat unless I'm wildly mistaken.
02-03-2003, 08:34 PM
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Seems pricey...but if you don't need to buy a y-pipe, then what the hell, I'll go for it. Now...emissions??? Same thing as having a y pipe??
Probably sound great with the right exhaust system. My stangs had headers, it was sweet. My GSR had a header, but it didn't really do much.
Probably sound great with the right exhaust system. My stangs had headers, it was sweet. My GSR had a header, but it didn't really do much.
02-03-2003, 08:50 PM
#14
Not to burst anyone's bubble, but it's about 5-6 hours labor to install headers. Brian put the prototypes on his car (4g) a few weeks back if you recall, taking that thing apart is a beast so install costs will be much higher. I'm talking about the VQ30s of course, but the 3.5 can't be too easy either. Just a point for the record
02-03-2003, 09:12 PM
#15
Originally posted by releasedtruth
Not to burst anyone's bubble, but it's about 5-6 hours labor to install headers. Brian put the prototypes on his car (4g) a few weeks back if you recall, taking that thing apart is a beast so install costs will be much higher. I'm talking about the VQ30s of course, but the 3.5 can't be too easy either. Just a point for the record
Not to burst anyone's bubble, but it's about 5-6 hours labor to install headers. Brian put the prototypes on his car (4g) a few weeks back if you recall, taking that thing apart is a beast so install costs will be much higher. I'm talking about the VQ30s of course, but the 3.5 can't be too easy either. Just a point for the record
These headers remove the pre-cats. So emmisions will be effected like previous year maximas equiped with y-pipe. IE. no pre-cats
These will not fit pre-2002 maxima. The manifolds are speced differently between VQ30's and 35's, I found this out first hand yesterday.
I don't know if he meant 30 WHP or crank. Either way your talking maybe a 2-3 HP differnce.
BTW for the HP fanatics out there like my self unorthodox racing is making a complete SS pulley setup, it's supose to be out in April.
02-03-2003, 09:14 PM
#16
Originally posted by emax95
The installation is free. BTW it's usualy more like 8 hours.
These headers remove the pre-cats. So emmisions will be effected like previous year maximas equiped with y-pipe. IE. no pre-cats
These will not fit pre-2002 maxima. The manifolds are speced differently between VQ30's and 35's, I found this out first hand yesterday.
I don't know if he meant 30 WHP or crank. Either way your talking maybe a 2-3 HP differnce.
BTW for the HP fanatics out there like my self unorthodox racing is making a complete SS pulley setup, it's supose to be out in April.
The installation is free. BTW it's usualy more like 8 hours.
These headers remove the pre-cats. So emmisions will be effected like previous year maximas equiped with y-pipe. IE. no pre-cats
These will not fit pre-2002 maxima. The manifolds are speced differently between VQ30's and 35's, I found this out first hand yesterday.
I don't know if he meant 30 WHP or crank. Either way your talking maybe a 2-3 HP differnce.
BTW for the HP fanatics out there like my self unorthodox racing is making a complete SS pulley setup, it's supose to be out in April.
02-03-2003, 10:04 PM
#18
emax,Thanks for the update as well as your helpful info. BTW when you meant "These will not fit pre-2002 maxima. The manifolds are speced differently between VQ30's and 35's" did you mean that these will not fit 2000-2001's???and these will be able to fit 2002-2003's right??? Since pre-cats are removed on this header,like you said it will have emission issues but will the ecu throw a SES light/code since the pre-cats are removed???
Sorry for all the ?'s emax. Oh BTW,How's your 2001 MAF replacement holding up???
Sorry for all the ?'s emax. Oh BTW,How's your 2001 MAF replacement holding up???
02-03-2003, 10:13 PM
#19
Originally posted by clipse
emax,Thanks for the update as well as your helpful info. BTW when you meant "These will not fit pre-2002 maxima. The manifolds are speced differently between VQ30's and 35's" did you mean that these will not fit 2000-2001's???and these will be able to fit 2002-2003's right??? Since pre-cats are removed on this header,like you said it will have emission issues but will the ecu throw a SES light/code since the pre-cats are removed??? Sorry for all the ?'s emax.
emax,Thanks for the update as well as your helpful info. BTW when you meant "These will not fit pre-2002 maxima. The manifolds are speced differently between VQ30's and 35's" did you mean that these will not fit 2000-2001's???and these will be able to fit 2002-2003's right??? Since pre-cats are removed on this header,like you said it will have emission issues but will the ecu throw a SES light/code since the pre-cats are removed???
Sorry for all the ?'s emax.
No problem dude. This will not fit pre 2002 mximas, AKA they will not work on 2001's. They are made for the 2002-2003 maxima and altima(probably fit murano too) only. As for the check engine light, thats a great question, I asked my self the same question. Looks to me like it should through a check engine light. Something tells me this is not the case though or stillen has a way around it. Eitehr way my check engine light bulb is comming out, it's just a PITA anyhow
02-03-2003, 10:20 PM
#21
Originally posted by emax95
No problem dude. This will not fit pre 2002 mximas, AKA they will not work on 2001's. They are made for the 2002-2003 maxima and altima(probably fit murano too) only. As for the check engine light, thats a great question, I asked my self the same question. Looks to me like it should through a check engine light. Something tells me this is not the case though or stillen has a way around it. Eitehr way my check engine light bulb is comming out, it's just a PITA anyhow
No problem dude. This will not fit pre 2002 mximas, AKA they will not work on 2001's. They are made for the 2002-2003 maxima and altima(probably fit murano too) only. As for the check engine light, thats a great question, I asked my self the same question. Looks to me like it should through a check engine light. Something tells me this is not the case though or stillen has a way around it. Eitehr way my check engine light bulb is comming out, it's just a PITA anyhow
02-03-2003, 10:26 PM
#22
Originally posted by Menacer
From what I read, If I have the right information, you where the one that installed headers on your precious maxima. My point is that I was wondering how much louder do headers make your car. Reason I ask is because I test drove a 00 Honda Civic Si that was modded. It was really loud and attributed to the headers it had. So do headers make a car louder. I hear the y-pipes don't but even tough I have a 00 maxima I am curious if headers would make the maxima loud and annoying like Civics with exhaust mods?
From what I read, If I have the right information, you where the one that installed headers on your precious maxima. My point is that I was wondering how much louder do headers make your car. Reason I ask is because I test drove a 00 Honda Civic Si that was modded. It was really loud and attributed to the headers it had. So do headers make a car louder. I hear the y-pipes don't but even tough I have a 00 maxima I am curious if headers would make the maxima loud and annoying like Civics with exhaust mods?
dang..headers..finally...$500 for both? why so cheap? that's kinda unheard of from Stillen..
too bad it won't bolt on a VQ30DE..
02-03-2003, 10:54 PM
#23
Originally posted by clipse
emax,thanks for the quick reply. Could you keep me and the Org. members updated on this product. Especially about the "SES Light". I want to know if Stillen designed it where it won't throw a SES light or ECU Code. BTW,How's your 2001 MAF replacemnt holding up. I'm still weary about putting on my Franken on due to the MAF emedeminc,Sorry to get "OFF TOPIC".....
emax,thanks for the quick reply. Could you keep me and the Org. members updated on this product. Especially about the "SES Light". I want to know if Stillen designed it where it won't throw a SES light or ECU Code. BTW,How's your 2001 MAF replacemnt holding up. I'm still weary about putting on my Franken on due to the MAF emedeminc,Sorry to get "OFF TOPIC".....
I will share any and all info as it comes my way.
The MAFS is holding up perectly
The apexi is back on and the car feels awesome. If the MAFS ever breaks I will make it public.
02-03-2003, 10:58 PM
#24
Originally posted by irvine78
i don't think there's any mods that give you lots of hp(which is good) and yet are quite...
i don't think there's any mods that give you lots of hp(which is good) and yet are quite...
02-03-2003, 11:19 PM
#25
Some of you guys make me wonder..
.. If your moding anything in your exhaust and creating more flow, the sound will be greater. Your car is not a POS 4 banger , so it wont sound like one. I had a WS6 with SLP headers, and a Stang with Ceramic Shorty headers.. Yes there will be more of a rumble, but that is GOOD ! If you want a quiet ride , dont touch the exhaust. I have riden in Hoon's car, and is roars nicely, not like a Civic....thats my .02.. Yes I am lining up for those headers !
.. If your moding anything in your exhaust and creating more flow, the sound will be greater. Your car is not a POS 4 banger , so it wont sound like one. I had a WS6 with SLP headers, and a Stang with Ceramic Shorty headers.. Yes there will be more of a rumble, but that is GOOD ! If you want a quiet ride , dont touch the exhaust. I have riden in Hoon's car, and is roars nicely, not like a Civic....thats my .02.. Yes I am lining up for those headers !
02-03-2003, 11:37 PM
#26
Originally posted by kloogy
Some of you guys make me wonder.. .. If your moding anything in your exhaust and creating more flow, the sound will be greater. Your car is not a POS 4 banger , so it wont sound like one. I had a WS6 with SLP headers, and a Stang with Ceramic Shorty headers.. Yes there will be more of a rumble, but that is GOOD ! If you want a quiet ride , dont touch the exhaust. I have riden in Hoon's car, and is roars nicely, not like a Civic....thats my .02.. Yes I am lining up for those headers !
Some of you guys make me wonder..
.. If your moding anything in your exhaust and creating more flow, the sound will be greater. Your car is not a POS 4 banger , so it wont sound like one. I had a WS6 with SLP headers, and a Stang with Ceramic Shorty headers.. Yes there will be more of a rumble, but that is GOOD ! If you want a quiet ride , dont touch the exhaust. I have riden in Hoon's car, and is roars nicely, not like a Civic....thats my .02.. Yes I am lining up for those headers !
02-04-2003, 12:22 AM
#28
Can these headers be pre-ordered in advance??? I'm thinking of calling up Jerry Rome Nissan since there the closest to me and since they supply OEM/Stillen Parts at fairly-good prices unless someone else has another place in mind to pre-order from.
02-04-2003, 01:37 AM
#29
Originally posted by kloogy
Some of you guys make me wonder.. .. If your moding anything in your exhaust and creating more flow, the sound will be greater. Your car is not a POS 4 banger , so it wont sound like one. I had a WS6 with SLP headers, and a Stang with Ceramic Shorty headers.. Yes there will be more of a rumble, but that is GOOD ! If you want a quiet ride , dont touch the exhaust. I have riden in Hoon's car, and is roars nicely, not like a Civic....thats my .02.. Yes I am lining up for those headers !
Some of you guys make me wonder..
.. If your moding anything in your exhaust and creating more flow, the sound will be greater. Your car is not a POS 4 banger , so it wont sound like one. I had a WS6 with SLP headers, and a Stang with Ceramic Shorty headers.. Yes there will be more of a rumble, but that is GOOD ! If you want a quiet ride , dont touch the exhaust. I have riden in Hoon's car, and is roars nicely, not like a Civic....thats my .02.. Yes I am lining up for those headers !
02-04-2003, 04:09 AM
#30
Originally posted by emax95
BTW for the HP fanatics out there like my self unorthodox racing is making a complete SS pulley setup, it's supose to be out in April.
BTW for the HP fanatics out there like my self unorthodox racing is making a complete SS pulley setup, it's supose to be out in April.
That's interesting. I just contacted them about a week and a 1/2 ago and asked about it. Even volunteered to be a guinea pig. They said no at first and that installation would be a PITA. After additional communication they said yes but it would require 25-30 deposits. Did you get them to change their mind? Either way, more good news
02-04-2003, 04:37 AM
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Originally posted by CBass69187
As for the 3.5 Altima exhaust: Nissan Performance Magazine dynoed 20.4 hp and 22.7 tq gain.
I will be right ahead of Ethan to order these
As for the 3.5 Altima exhaust: Nissan Performance Magazine dynoed 20.4 hp and 22.7 tq gain.
I will be right ahead of Ethan to order these
$tillen claims a 27HP increase for the 3.5 Altima exhaust system, which is basically just 2 relabled magnaflow cans, so I'm HIGHLY skeptical on the 30HP claim.
02-04-2003, 07:28 AM
#32
Originally posted by 03BlkSETE
That's interesting. I just contacted them about a week and a 1/2 ago and asked about it. Even volunteered to be a guinea pig. They said no at first and that installation would be a PITA. After additional communication they said yes but it would require 25-30 deposits. Did you get them to change their mind? Either way, more good news
That's interesting. I just contacted them about a week and a 1/2 ago and asked about it. Even volunteered to be a guinea pig. They said no at first and that installation would be a PITA. After additional communication they said yes but it would require 25-30 deposits. Did you get them to change their mind? Either way, more good news
There making a set for the 350z.
02-04-2003, 10:01 AM
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Originally posted by Axel
This sucks. No headers available for 2000/01?
The 2000/01 are the ones that need the performance mods the most!
You 2002/03 already have decent power.
This sucks...
This sucks. No headers available for 2000/01?
The 2000/01 are the ones that need the performance mods the most!
You 2002/03 already have decent power.
This sucks...
02-04-2003, 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by Slurppie
Maybe we will luck up and see some acutal dyno results from Stillen this time....wait wtf am I thinking.
Maybe we will luck up and see some acutal dyno results from Stillen this time....wait wtf am I thinking.
02-04-2003, 12:21 PM
#37
I just spoke to Dean and he was very unimformative and not helpful at all. If you're too busy to speak to someone on the phone then you're better off not answering it at all. He quickly reminded me why I dislike the Stealin company so much. This '30 days' crap is old news. I bet they wont have the product before the 3rd quarter and when it does come out it will cost well over $700.
I'll just take the wait and see approach on this thing and if they don't live upto their promises 100% i'll simply do without and wait for someone else to debut a much better and less expensive product.
I'll just take the wait and see approach on this thing and if they don't live upto their promises 100% i'll simply do without and wait for someone else to debut a much better and less expensive product.
