Smoked by a Lexus SC430
02-04-2003, 10:42 AM
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Smoked by a Lexus SC430
I made the mistake of trying to tailgate a Lexus SC 430 last weekend. 
This idiot had come roaring up on my tail in the passing lane. I could do nothing because of the cars both in front and on my side. He proceeds to whip it across five lanes and then back to the passing lane, which is still clogged. The car in front of me had finally moved over, so I ran up on his azz at about 85mph. Just then, the passing lane cleared, and we both punched it at the same time.
I don't know if he was just fooling with me, but he steadily pulled away and was far in front of me and pulling away when speeds got too high for me. My last experience with the SC was the 400 back in the mid-1990's, when it only had about 260hp. Apparently, the newer 430 sports 300+hp in a 4.3 liter V-8.
Oh, well. At least he didn't slow down to laugh at me.
This idiot had come roaring up on my tail in the passing lane. I could do nothing because of the cars both in front and on my side. He proceeds to whip it across five lanes and then back to the passing lane, which is still clogged. The car in front of me had finally moved over, so I ran up on his azz at about 85mph. Just then, the passing lane cleared, and we both punched it at the same time. I don't know if he was just fooling with me, but he steadily pulled away and was far in front of me and pulling away when speeds got too high for me. My last experience with the SC was the 400 back in the mid-1990's, when it only had about 260hp. Apparently, the newer 430 sports 300+hp in a 4.3 liter V-8.
Oh, well. At least he didn't slow down to laugh at me.
02-04-2003, 10:44 AM
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R U in a 3.0 or a 3.5??? In a 3.5 at highway speeds this should have been a much closer race unless you were caught in a high gear... 
02-04-2003, 10:48 AM
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Re: Smoked by a Lexus SC430
Originally posted by jahannah
I made the mistake of trying to tailgate a Lexus SC 430 last weekend. This idiot had come roaring up on my tail in the passing lane. I could do nothing because of the cars both in front and on my side. He proceeds to whip it across five lanes and then back to the passing lane, which is still clogged. The car in front of me had finally moved over, so I ran up on his azz at about 85mph. Just then, the passing lane cleared, and we both punched it at the same time.
I don't know if he was just fooling with me, but he steadily pulled away and was far in front of me and pulling away when speeds got too high for me. My last experience with the SC was the 400 back in the mid-1990's, when it only had about 260hp. Apparently, the newer 430 sports 300+hp in a 4.3 liter V-8.
Oh, well. At least he didn't slow down to laugh at me.
I made the mistake of trying to tailgate a Lexus SC 430 last weekend.
This idiot had come roaring up on my tail in the passing lane. I could do nothing because of the cars both in front and on my side. He proceeds to whip it across five lanes and then back to the passing lane, which is still clogged. The car in front of me had finally moved over, so I ran up on his azz at about 85mph. Just then, the passing lane cleared, and we both punched it at the same time. I don't know if he was just fooling with me, but he steadily pulled away and was far in front of me and pulling away when speeds got too high for me. My last experience with the SC was the 400 back in the mid-1990's, when it only had about 260hp. Apparently, the newer 430 sports 300+hp in a 4.3 liter V-8.
Oh, well. At least he didn't slow down to laugh at me.
Well, actually you could always have laughed back since they are butt-ugly and cost twice (if not more) as much as your car.
02-04-2003, 10:54 AM
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Re: Re: Smoked by a Lexus SC430
Originally posted by jjs
Well, actually you could always have laughed back since they are butt-ugly and cost twice (if not more) as much as your car.
Well, actually you could always have laughed back since they are butt-ugly and cost twice (if not more) as much as your car.
02-04-2003, 11:09 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Smoked by a Lexus SC430
Originally posted by jahannah
because it certainly "got up and went."
because it certainly "got up and went."
02-04-2003, 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by PIONEER
Was it a New SC-430 or the Older SC with a 2JZ Conversion
Was it a New SC-430 or the Older SC with a 2JZ Conversion
02-04-2003, 12:20 PM
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I smoked one of those V8 Grand Cherokees last night. Does that count?
02-04-2003, 12:21 PM
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Originally posted by jahannah
It was a brand-new SC 430 (I think), a red convertible. The car looked okay. The guy driving it looked like one of those blonde fraternity guys in Revenge of the Nerds that you love to hate, he he.
It was a brand-new SC 430 (I think), a red convertible. The car looked okay. The guy driving it looked like one of those blonde fraternity guys in Revenge of the Nerds that you love to hate, he he.
02-04-2003, 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by PIONEER
I think the Designers at Lexus got Canned after that car showed up at the dealerships
I think the Designers at Lexus got Canned after that car showed up at the dealerships
They should have been drawn and quartered. That thing is HIDEOUS!!! Looks like the bastard child of an Audi TT, an MR-2, and something else...just not sure what that is.
02-04-2003, 12:38 PM
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Hideous or not, with that V8 it's a highway monster. You never had a chance with a 3.0L auto.
02-04-2003, 12:43 PM
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Originally posted by Green 2kSE
Hideous or not, with that V8 it's a highway monster. You never had a chance with a 3.0L auto.
Hideous or not, with that V8 it's a highway monster. You never had a chance with a 3.0L auto.
02-04-2003, 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by Ma><iManiac
I just don't get it. With the WRX, yeah it's freakin fast, and ugly as hell, but it's somewhat affordable. I guess I could see that...sortof...on the other hand, The Lexus is freakin fast, ugly as hell and $50K!!!!
I just don't get it. With the WRX, yeah it's freakin fast, and ugly as hell, but it's somewhat affordable. I guess I could see that...sortof...on the other hand, The Lexus is freakin fast, ugly as hell and $50K!!!!
02-05-2003, 05:10 AM
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Originally posted by Green 2kSE
Hideous or not, with that V8 it's a highway monster. You never had a chance with a 3.0L auto.
Hideous or not, with that V8 it's a highway monster. You never had a chance with a 3.0L auto.
Us auto guys have to remember to keep O/D off at all times when playing on the highway. Even so, the SC has a 4.3 V-8 putting around 300 horsepower at the crank, I think it would be tough for even the 3.5 to beat them cause they are all auto (SC) and aren't goverend till about 160, so any idiot can make that car go fast.
02-05-2003, 05:20 AM
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Originally posted by 00SESoonToBe
yeah, but the lex has weight. quarter mile for that car is low 14's. given the high end of a vvt-i v8, even the stick maxes may have trouble running with it on the highway.
on a side note, i personally like the way it looks. the reason why i like the looks of the 350z so much is because it looks a bit like the SC. granted, there are other cars i would buy first before the SC, even if i could afford something like that. but still, you get lexus quality with that car, and lexus obviously built the thing for a niche market.
Us auto guys have to remember to keep O/D off at all times when playing on the highway. Even so, the SC has a 4.3 V-8 putting around 300 horsepower at the crank, I think it would be tough for even the 3.5 to beat them cause they are all auto (SC) and aren't goverend till about 160, so any idiot can make that car go fast.
yeah, but the lex has weight. quarter mile for that car is low 14's. given the high end of a vvt-i v8, even the stick maxes may have trouble running with it on the highway.
on a side note, i personally like the way it looks. the reason why i like the looks of the 350z so much is because it looks a bit like the SC. granted, there are other cars i would buy first before the SC, even if i could afford something like that. but still, you get lexus quality with that car, and lexus obviously built the thing for a niche market.
Us auto guys have to remember to keep O/D off at all times when playing on the highway. Even so, the SC has a 4.3 V-8 putting around 300 horsepower at the crank, I think it would be tough for even the 3.5 to beat them cause they are all auto (SC) and aren't goverend till about 160, so any idiot can make that car go fast.
02-05-2003, 06:54 AM
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Originally posted by PIONEER
Oh Yeah, The Auto guys, be careful with the Lincoln Mark VII and VIII
Oh Yeah, The Auto guys, be careful with the Lincoln Mark VII and VIII
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02-05-2003, 08:01 AM
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Originally posted by Ma><iManiac
I just don't get it. With the WRX, yeah it's freakin fast, and ugly as hell, but it's somewhat affordable. I guess I could see that...sortof...on the other hand, The Lexus is freakin fast, ugly as hell and $50K!!!!
I just don't get it. With the WRX, yeah it's freakin fast, and ugly as hell, but it's somewhat affordable. I guess I could see that...sortof...on the other hand, The Lexus is freakin fast, ugly as hell and $50K!!!!
02-05-2003, 08:27 AM
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Originally posted by 00SESoonToBe
How come all of the sudden the 3.0 gets no respect? I know it's not as fast at the VQ but geeze, the car is still quick.
How come all of the sudden the 3.0 gets no respect? I know it's not as fast at the VQ but geeze, the car is still quick.
02-05-2003, 08:37 AM
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Sorry to say folks, I only have a GS400 which is about same weight and slightly less torque (same HP) and killing 3.0 liter Maximas on the highway is pretty easy. I haven't broken in my 2003 SE so not sure how the 3.5 liter feels on the highway but I think I'll probably still have an edge in the Lexus. Don't mess with Toyota power. If that guy had a 2JZ conversion it would have been MUCH uglier so I doubt that.
02-05-2003, 08:56 AM
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Ah, the new SC430. My boss has one of these that he had to wait 6 months for when he bought it last year. I knew it had 300 horsepower, but had no idea it was a v8. It's automatic only and a good old man sports car I guess. It is ugly though, and I've only ever seen women and a couple of gay guys driving one. That's not a putdown, its just what I have seen. It runs a 14.5 quarter mile if I'm not mistaken, so it is quick. You guys are right though, for the money you could get a much better (faster) car.
02-05-2003, 09:03 AM
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Originally posted by Virus
Monday I got behind a new BMW 740LI/IL whatever and was very shocked as I wasn't gaining on him much at all. I thought with the size of the beast that I'd be able to take him easily. Amazing looking car.
Monday I got behind a new BMW 740LI/IL whatever and was very shocked as I wasn't gaining on him much at all. I thought with the size of the beast that I'd be able to take him easily. Amazing looking car.
02-05-2003, 09:22 AM
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If it was new it would be a 745. With 325 hp/330ft lbs and German engineering for Autobahn busting, those things can be brutal.
If it was new it would be a 745. With 325 hp/330ft lbs and German engineering for Autobahn busting, those things can be brutal.
02-05-2003, 09:32 AM
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i hope that i'm not misuderstanding you, but the 3.0 in a maxima is a vq as well. VQ30, vs. VQ35
i hope that i'm not misuderstanding you, but the 3.0 in a maxima is a vq as well. VQ30, vs. VQ35
Yea, I meant VQ35(at work and trying not to get caught), sorry for the typo. It just seems like alot of people who now have the 3.5 seem to think the 3.0 is not capable anymore. I know it's not a sports car but it still goes pretty good, I think anyway.
02-05-2003, 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by Quicksilver
Yeah, with tested 0-60's under 6 seconds (5.92 I think). That's a huge car to get up and go that quickly. Then try to catch it past 60. Freakin' engine just pulls and pulls and pulls...
Yeah, with tested 0-60's under 6 seconds (5.92 I think). That's a huge car to get up and go that quickly. Then try to catch it past 60. Freakin' engine just pulls and pulls and pulls...
On the other hand, while I like the way the 740s look the 745 looks like an overgrown Volvo. You know there have been complaints when BMW started advertising the 2004 7 series redesign in 2002!
02-05-2003, 10:29 AM
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Originally posted by Maximax2
Yep. And don't forget, at highway speeds you're fighting wind drag, not weight - so it's basically the 745's HP (yikes!) vs. Maxima's HP, assuming the drag coefficient is similar. And we lose...
On the other hand, while I like the way the 740s look the 745 looks like an overgrown Volvo. You know there have been complaints when BMW started advertising the 2004 7 series redesign in 2002!
Yep. And don't forget, at highway speeds you're fighting wind drag, not weight - so it's basically the 745's HP (yikes!) vs. Maxima's HP, assuming the drag coefficient is similar. And we lose...
On the other hand, while I like the way the 740s look the 745 looks like an overgrown Volvo. You know there have been complaints when BMW started advertising the 2004 7 series redesign in 2002!
02-05-2003, 11:06 AM
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Originally posted by Young04
i hope that i'm not misuderstanding you, but the 3.0 in a maxima is a vq as well. VQ30, vs. VQ35
i hope that i'm not misuderstanding you, but the 3.0 in a maxima is a vq as well. VQ30, vs. VQ35
02-05-2003, 12:43 PM
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it disagrees with my eyes also, but i see a ton of em in the houston medical center. apparently it's some kind of new "doctor" car or something.
02-05-2003, 01:05 PM
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I guess I don't feel so bad then. I was pulling very, very little, but it wasn't until I was at 80. That thing was a beast. Now I definately know how the Mustangs must feel when we beat them. That's amazing that such a huge car can get up and go like that. Personally, I really like the looks of the new ones. I do not like the old body style.
02-05-2003, 01:11 PM
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Originally posted by Virus
I guess I don't feel so bad then. I was pulling very, very little, but it wasn't until I was at 80. That thing was a beast. Now I definately know how the Mustangs must feel when we beat them. That's amazing that such a huge car can get up and go like that. Personally, I really like the looks of the new ones. I do not like the old body style.
I guess I don't feel so bad then. I was pulling very, very little, but it wasn't until I was at 80. That thing was a beast. Now I definately know how the Mustangs must feel when we beat them. That's amazing that such a huge car can get up and go like that. Personally, I really like the looks of the new ones. I do not like the old body style.
02-05-2003, 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by Guru
Sorry to say folks, I only have a GS400 which is about same weight and slightly less torque (same HP) and killing 3.0 liter Maximas on the highway is pretty easy. I haven't broken in my 2003 SE so not sure how the 3.5 liter feels on the highway but I think I'll probably still have an edge in the Lexus. Don't mess with Toyota power. If that guy had a 2JZ conversion it would have been MUCH uglier so I doubt that.
Sorry to say folks, I only have a GS400 which is about same weight and slightly less torque (same HP) and killing 3.0 liter Maximas on the highway is pretty easy. I haven't broken in my 2003 SE so not sure how the 3.5 liter feels on the highway but I think I'll probably still have an edge in the Lexus. Don't mess with Toyota power. If that guy had a 2JZ conversion it would have been MUCH uglier so I doubt that.
02-05-2003, 01:28 PM
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Originally posted by Virus
I guess I don't feel so bad then. I was pulling very, very little, but it wasn't until I was at 80. That thing was a beast. Now I definately know how the Mustangs must feel when we beat them. That's amazing that such a huge car can get up and go like that. Personally, I really like the looks of the new ones. I do not like the old body style.
I guess I don't feel so bad then. I was pulling very, very little, but it wasn't until I was at 80. That thing was a beast. Now I definately know how the Mustangs must feel when we beat them. That's amazing that such a huge car can get up and go like that. Personally, I really like the looks of the new ones. I do not like the old body style.
I think this is the best 7-series ever designed.
Going from the above design to the new one....
is like going from the design of the 2k3 maxima to the 2k4 design.
02-05-2003, 01:28 PM
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It's a confortable car yes and VERY reliable. Great solid feel to it and good power. Handling is god aweful but nothing a Tein CS kit won't solve. Brakes are okay at lower speeds. An easy and cheap upgrade which I'm doing is Supra rotors with LS430 front calipers and Endless brake pads. Should help a lot with high speed stopping. Stock are 2 pistons and I'm moving up to a 13 inch rotor and 4 pistons all for under $1000. Pretty cheap. Overall it's a fantastic daily driver if you dont mind that it's automatic only. I'm getting a 6 speed STi WRX in June to fix my aching for a stickshift.
