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Old 02-15-2003 | 05:18 PM
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Top Speed in 3.5 Automatic?

I was just wondering what's the top speed for a 02-03 Maxima 3.5 SE Automatic. The 01 Brochure says an SE equipped with 17 inch wheels can go 143 MPH. 3.5's must be able to go faster than 3.0's, even Automatics.
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Re: Top Speed in 3.5 Automatic?

Originally posted by Max Version 3.5
I was just wondering what's the top speed for a 02-03 Maxima 3.5 SE Automatic. The 01 Brochure says an SE equipped with 17 inch wheels can go 143 MPH. 3.5's must be able to go faster than 3.0's, even Automatics.
that 143 on the 2k1 is for 5spds. the auto top out at 128, with the high level of speedo error at that speed, its hard to tell how accurate it is. i could be wrong and if i am, then im sure ill be corrected but i think the 2k2 have similar if not identical top speeds. not to say there isnt room to go faster but you will need a rsm to do it.
Old 02-15-2003 | 06:48 PM
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What are the factory tires rated at? That could be the source of the published top speed rating.

Think there are some posts on this very issue. Some people were buying aftermarket items (ApexI RSM or GTECHs??) that remove the limiter.

This might be discovered through a properly formed search.
Old 02-15-2003 | 07:15 PM
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Re: Top Speed in 3.5 Automatic?

Originally posted by Max Version 3.5
I was just wondering what's the top speed for a 02-03 Maxima 3.5 SE Automatic. The 01 Brochure says an SE equipped with 17 inch wheels can go 143 MPH. 3.5's must be able to go faster than 3.0's, even Automatics.
yeah, search on this...there was someone with info from a good source saying that the top speeds were limited to what our tires are rated at.

GLE - just shy of 130, SE - 149 (145ish drag limited). i don't recall if there was any info for auto SE's.
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130 mph . Thats for 2k2-3 . The ECU cuts you off at 130. I have tried it 3 times in the last month, ...
Old 02-15-2003 | 07:17 PM
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Re: Re: Top Speed in 3.5 Automatic?

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that 143 on the 2k1 is for 5spds. the auto top out at 128, with the high level of speedo error at that speed, its hard to tell how accurate it is. i could be wrong and if i am, then im sure ill be corrected but i think the 2k2 have similar if not identical top speeds. not to say there isnt room to go faster but you will need a rsm to do it.
Wrong, the 2k Max will top out at 130 in auto trim. The SE has a different top end based on the tires and the removal of the speed limiter, it is drag limited to 143.
Old 02-15-2003 | 08:56 PM
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Re: Top Speed in 3.5 Automatic?

Originally posted by Max Version 3.5
I was just wondering what's the top speed for a 02-03 Maxima 3.5 SE Automatic. The 01 Brochure says an SE equipped with 17 inch wheels can go 143 MPH. 3.5's must be able to go faster than 3.0's, even Automatics.
It's supposed to be 149 (drag limited). Here's the thread (there are others):

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=181988
Old 02-15-2003 | 08:59 PM
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I have hit 140 in my 2k3....

I dont know where you guys are getting this info.
Old 02-15-2003 | 09:21 PM
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Re: I have hit 140 in my 2k3....

Originally posted by TheOzzfather
I dont know where you guys are getting this info.
<governor clicks in at 140mph(2001 se auto)
Old 02-15-2003 | 11:29 PM
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I've done easily 130, but let the gas go... i could have pushed it more, but got hesitant and slowed right down, and a bit later saw a tropper on the side of the highway, i had the tropper instict i gues... close call and yes 2k2 aut0...
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i hit 145 on my 2000 SE automatic.
i know you guys are going to flame so im lying thanks.
Old 02-16-2003 | 01:37 AM
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My roomate had his 2k2 SE 6 spd @ 135 with room to go and I had my 2k SE auto at 130 with room to go. This was on the same road on a perfect day.
Old 02-16-2003 | 08:15 AM
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2k2 GLE's can only go up to 130. the SE's should go up to 149. you guys can't pass that no matter what. cuz its drag limited. for the 2k1's and 2k's i dunno.
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I believe that Kloogy is the only one to answer your question. I have to agree with Kloogy. I have gone up to 130 in my 02 Maxima 3.5 SE Automatic , but it just wouldn't go any faster than that. I'm pretty sure that this has been the subject of another thread also, and they came up with the same result.
Old 02-16-2003 | 09:01 AM
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Originally posted by D Love
I believe that Kloogy is the only one to answer your question. I have to agree with Kloogy. I have gone up to 130 in my 02 Maxima 3.5 SE Automatic , but it just wouldn't go any faster than that. I'm pretty sure that this has been the subject of another thread also, and they came up with the same result.
Don't think so - when I checked with Nissan they said they limit the speed to the tires' speed rating - 149 on an SE, 130 on GLE / GXE. And several people, including me, have taken their SE's above 130.

Several people have also said that they CAN'T go above 130 in an SE though - wonder if this is a Cali spec or Canadian spec thing...? Or did they just happen to have a strong headwind (or me a strong tailwind) that day?
Old 02-16-2003 | 09:24 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Top Speed in 3.5 Automatic?

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Wrong, the 2k Max will top out at 130 in auto trim. The SE has a different top end based on the tires and the removal of the speed limiter, it is drag limited to 143.
well my speedo said 130 but i was timing it with my GPS and it said 128. i figured with the speedo error, even stock that id go with the gps.
Old 02-16-2003 | 09:49 AM
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Don't think so - when I checked with Nissan they said they limit the speed to the tires' speed rating - 149 on an SE, 130 on GLE / GXE. And several people, including me, have taken their SE's above 130.

Several people have also said that they CAN'T go above 130 in an SE though - wonder if this is a Cali spec or Canadian spec thing...? Or did they just happen to have a strong headwind (or me a strong tailwind) that day?
I don't deny that the 6-speeds can go above 130, but I am pretty sure that the autos cannot. I'll search later when I get time to see if I can find the other thread that also came to the same conclusion.
Old 02-16-2003 | 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by D Love
I believe that Kloogy is the only one to answer your question. I have to agree with Kloogy. I have gone up to 130 in my 02 Maxima 3.5 SE Automatic , but it just wouldn't go any faster than that. I'm pretty sure that this has been the subject of another thread also, and they came up with the same result.
Im telling you guys , I have an SE Auto. I know that Irvine78 told me if I get the Apexi S-AFC ( I think thats what it is ) it tricks the computer and you can go faster. The 2k2 auto SE CAN go faster, but it is limited. I have never pushed a 6 speed to that limit, so I can only speak to the Auto SE .
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Im telling you guys , I have an SE Auto. I know that Irvine78 told me if I get the Apexi S-AFC ( I think thats what it is ) it tricks the computer and you can go faster. The 2k2 auto SE CAN go faster, but it is limited. I have never pushed a 6 speed to that limit, so I can only speak to the Auto SE .
i was not aware that the S-AFC could do anything for the top speed limiter, im not saying it cannot, im just saying i did not know about it. the apex'i rev/speed meter will remove if the limiter if you want it to.
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I don't know how everyone came to the numbers, I know that I hit 140 in my 2001 GXE automatic. The limiter kicked in there and bought me back down to 135 and then back up to 140 and then back down again, and so on until I got bored of it.
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OK For all the auto 5th gen maximas sayin they hit over 130 without a rev speed meter are either 1: full of $hit 2: you have some terrible speedo error. I have a 02 SE Auto and have hit 130 and will not gain anymore but it doesn't cut you back like some of the other guys are saying in the 00-01 autos. This is facts guys for all you other autos sayin you have top over 130 need to get your speedo checked.

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Originally posted by blubyu2k2
OK For all the auto 5th gen maximas sayin they hit over 130 without a rev speed meter are either 1: full of $hit 2: you have some terrible speedo error. I have a 02 SE Auto and have hit 130 and will not gain anymore but it doesn't cut you back like some of the other guys are saying in the 00-01 autos. This is facts guys for all you other autos sayin you have top over 130 need to get your speedo checked.

Matt
im sure you were sitting next to me when i hit 140+.
Old 02-16-2003 | 11:57 AM
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im sure you were sitting next to me when i hit 140+.
ummmmm sure OK
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OK For all the auto 5th gen maximas sayin they hit over 130 without a rev speed meter are either 1: full of $hit 2: you have some terrible speedo error. I have a 02 SE Auto and have hit 130 and will not gain anymore but it doesn't cut you back like some of the other guys are saying in the 00-01 autos. This is facts guys for all you other autos sayin you have top over 130 need to get your speedo checked.

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Matt:

Has it occurred to you that just because your car acts that way, that maybe it's not indicative of ALL 5th gen autos? And that those of us who have hit well over 130 feel the same way about your info?

The only fact in your post is that your auto can't go over 130 - fine. Other facts include some of our autos going 130+, plus Nissan, C&D etc. stating that the SE is NOT limited to 130.

Not trying to beat you up, you're as entitled to your opinion as the next guy (or me). But there's as much (or more) evidence on the other side.

You're still a cool guy tho
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Matt:

Has it occurred to you that just because your car acts that way, that maybe it's not indicative of ALL 5th gen autos? And that those of us who have hit well over 130 feel the same way about your info?

The only fact in your post is that your auto can't go over 130 - fine. Other facts include some of our autos going 130+, plus Nissan, C&D etc. stating that the SE is NOT limited to 130.

Not trying to beat you up, you're as entitled to your opinion as the next guy (or me). But there's as much (or more) evidence on the other side.

You're still a cool guy tho
Well its a fact that 02 autos won't go over 130 and we do not hit a rev limiter and bounce off. Sloppymax also does the same thing hits 130 and hangs he doesn't bounce off and gain back it just hangs at 128-130.
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Matt:

Has it occurred to you that just because your car acts that way, that maybe it's not indicative of ALL 5th gen autos? And that those of us who have hit well over 130 feel the same way about your info?

The only fact in your post is that your auto can't go over 130 - fine. Other facts include some of our autos going 130+, plus Nissan, C&D etc. stating that the SE is NOT limited to 130.

Not trying to beat you up, you're as entitled to your opinion as the next guy (or me). But there's as much (or more) evidence on the other side.

You're still a cool guy tho
if you have a link to nissan or c&d stating the auto 2k2 top speed limiter is higher than 130 then please show me. c&d didnt even test a 2k2 auto, it was a 6spd and it was drag limited at 145, per their website.
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here is what i was looking for, 2k2 auto tested and limited to 130
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as i said again, 2k2 autos are limited to 130. 6 spds are DRAG limited to 149 mph. as someone mentioned before it is the tire ratings. even if you have a rev limiter whatever you call it. you will never pass 149 mph. i say again, NEVER. your gonna ask me why? cuz its drag limited. the engine can pull more, but the car won't.

btw, blubyu2k2, i thought you had a 6 spd this whole time. did you get your MAF sensor fixed yet? is that what its called? i forgot.
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as i said again, 2k2 autos are limited to 130. 6 spds are DRAG limited to 149 mph. as someone mentioned before it is the tire ratings. even if you have a rev limiter whatever you call it. you will never pass 149 mph. i say again, NEVER. your gonna ask me why? cuz its drag limited. the engine can pull more, but the car won't.

btw, blubyu2k2, i thought you had a 6 spd this whole time. did you get your MAF sensor fixed yet? is that what its called? i forgot.
Yes I got my MAF replaced but have not put the intake back on yet. I've been an auto the whole time HEH
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Are there any TSBs out there for defective speedometers in the 2K2 Maxima?? (rhetorical question)

Just curious, because I have reached a speedo indicated speed of approx 143mph while running against an Acura TL-S on the NJ Turnpike. Hitting the speed governor is like hitting a wall (sort of); you hit the max speed, the fuel is cutoff until you drop about 5mph and then you re-engage. This didnt happen to me.

I've driven cars while working my parttime job (Hertz - vehicle transporter) where I've hit the speed governor on various cars and this DID NOT occur with my 2K2.

And as far as the fountain of misinformation in this link (http://nissan.jbroadtests.com/Maxima/2002/index4.php),
how are they getting a 14.9 at 95.6 1/4 mile time??? If I could trap that high, I'd run a 14.5 not my own 14.7 and especially not the as tested 14.9?!?!?
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Originally posted by F23A4
Are there any TSBs out there for defective speedometers in the 2K2 Maxima?? (rhetorical question)

Just curious, because I have reached a speedo indicated speed of approx 143mph while running against an Acura TL-S on the NJ Turnpike. Hitting the speed governor is like hitting a wall (sort of); you hit the max speed, the fuel is cutoff until you drop about 5mph and then you re-engage. This didnt happen to me.

I've driven cars while working my parttime job (Hertz - vehicle transporter) where I've hit the speed governor on various cars and this DID NOT occur with my 2K2.

And as far as the fountain of misinformation in this link (http://nissan.jbroadtests.com/Maxima/2002/index4.php),
how are they getting a 14.9 at 95.6 1/4 mile time??? If I could trap that high, I'd run a 14.5 not my own 14.7 and especially not the as tested 14.9?!?!?
i understand the problem on relying on magazines for tests of accelertion. each publication gets a different number for 0-60 or street start of 5-60 but any idiot can hit top speed.
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i could only hit 130 also.. this was on pa trnpke no traffic and for about 10 mi. i just felt like the cruise control was on. there wasnt any hesitation, it just maintained 130.
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Factors...

I just wonder when people post their top speed, what is it based on, speedometer reading? And what tires do you have, some stock, others different aftermarket, right?
It is well known that the real speed is ALWAYS below the speedometer reading, when all in stock configuration. The laws prohibit speedometers to be by any value too low, but too high is OK. Usually, the speedometer reading is wrong up to 10%. For Maxima, it is likely to be about 10mph for 130mph speed. You see 140mph, but it is well below.
The other thing is different tires. If you decrease the diameter of the tire by 3%, that would make 5mph error in speedometer reading at the top speed.
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as i said again, 2k2 autos are limited to 130. 6 spds are DRAG limited to 149 mph. as someone mentioned before it is the tire ratings. even if you have a rev limiter whatever you call it. you will never pass 149 mph. i say again, NEVER. your gonna ask me why? cuz its drag limited. the engine can pull more, but the car won't.
if you have a link to nissan or c&d stating the auto 2k2 top speed limiter is higher than 130 then please show me. c&d didnt even test a 2k2 auto, it was a 6spd and it was drag limited at 145, per their website.
And your reasoning for this is because while the 6-speed SE's can handle the top speed, the autos have the different suspension, tires, and aerodynamics so they need to be speed limited. Oh wait - no they don't...

Why would you think an auto would have a speed limit if you believe a 6-speed doesn't? Because some random site says "ca. 130" (which, from what I can tell, means "estimated")?

Listen, if you guys think they're speed limited - fine. I personally believe what I've been told by Nissan, read in tests (please don't tell me again that autos and 6-speeds have diff limits), and done myself. What's the diff - if you're right, 130 is damn fast. And I'll never see 149 (can't imagine the road where I could do that), so it's probably immaterial. Besides, I'd probably have to hit 170 to convince you guys it's not speedo error...

Here are some links that show SE's (4th gen, and two flavors of 5th gen) hitting 140+, BTW (yes, I know, they're 6-speeds...):

http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caran...axima&class=44

http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caran...axima&class=44

http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caran...axima&class=44
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Originally posted by F23A4

And as far as the fountain of misinformation in this link (http://nissan.jbroadtests.com/Maxima/2002/index4.php),
how are they getting a 14.9 at 95.6 1/4 mile time??? If I could trap that high, I'd run a 14.5 not my own 14.7 and especially not the as tested 14.9?!?!?
I don't think it's entirely impossible (at least w/a manual). It's not clear if those figures are from a manual or auto but it looks like the former since they tried to list 6 gear ratios w/NA next to each of them. With my stock 2K2 GXE auto I've run 14.908 @ 94.32 and 15.009 @ 94.39 before.
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And your reasoning for this is because while the 6-speed SE's can handle the top speed, the autos have the different suspension, tires, and aerodynamics so they need to be speed limited. Oh wait - no they don't...

Why would you think an auto would have a speed limit if you believe a 6-speed doesn't? Because some random site says "ca. 130" (which, from what I can tell, means "estimated")?

Listen, if you guys think they're speed limited - fine. I personally believe what I've been told by Nissan, read in tests (please don't tell me again that autos and 6-speeds have diff limits), and done myself. What's the diff - if you're right, 130 is damn fast. And I'll never see 149 (can't imagine the road where I could do that), so it's probably immaterial. Besides, I'd probably have to hit 170 to convince you guys it's not speedo error...

Here are some links that show SE's (4th gen, and two flavors of 5th gen) hitting 140+, BTW (yes, I know, they're 6-speeds...):

http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caran...axima&class=44

http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caran...axima&class=44

http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caran...axima&class=44
i never said they couldnt handle it, i said its limited by nissan. lots of manufactuers give manuals more power than autos because the tranny can handle it. i guess they think if you go for the auto, you would be less likely to be doing high speed runs. gearing also plays a part but i wont get into it. im getting an rsm before too long so i wont have to worry about it. ill let it die but if you ever decide you want to make a video, email it to me, i wont tell anyone.
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I don't think it's entirely impossible (at least w/a manual). It's not clear if those figures are from a manual or auto but it looks like the former since they tried to list 6 gear ratios w/NA next to each of them. With my stock 2K2 GXE auto I've run 14.908 @ 94.32 and 15.009 @ 94.39 before.
The stats in that link were purported to be an auto 2k2 Maxima, per SloppyMax (several posts back).

And believe or not, the trap difference between 94.39 & 95.6X is pretty sizeable when it comes to the auto 2K2 Max. 95-96 mph traps are normally associated with a 6speed Max (or a modded auto 2K2), tripping the lights @ mid-low 14s NOT 15-flat.

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Facts from Nissan on 2k auto GXE= 130mph
2kSE=142 drag limited
I looked in my old brochure when I bought my Max and those are the figures, I've personally only seen 130 in my GXE Max and I could feel the speed limiter kicking in which bumped the speed back down to between 128 and 130, so I'm going with 130.

I doubt anyone has done 140 in a 2kGXE auto unless you have the speed limiter removed. I'm not saying it isn't possible, I'm saying I doubt it will hit 140 in the 2kautogxe.

I agree with blubyu
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When the 00 Max came out I worked for Nissan at the time as a tech, and shortly after I quit and went working for Audi- more $$. The SEs with 17" tire combo and 5spd tranny have no speed limiters. The speed limiter is set at 130MPH on all other cars, auto and 5spd. When U reprogram a ECU on a Max 5spd, it asks U if the car has H or V rated tires. All 5spd 01 Maximas have the same ECU, now automatics have diff ECUs- depending on trim level, power seats, sunroof,climate control, tracion control, etc. I had my GXE reprogrammed with a V-Rated program, before that it would hit the speed limiter at indicated 135MPH like hitting a rev limiter in 1st gear almost at WOT. Its pretty voilent when it kicks in. Now without the limiter I have seen 155MPH on the speedo with tach pretty close to redline- I have all the bolt ons and some other goodies- its NA, non NOS, 5spd GXE with LSD )) Working for Nissan has its bonuses. As for 02-03 6spds, I see a guy on 355 all the time in one, I should run him and see if his cuts off at 130 or pulls to about 145ish- sounds like its moded so it might pull more than that. Now my SE-R pulls to 172MPH if ya care :P
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From: Murrieta, Ca
Originally posted by blubyu2k2
OK For all the auto 5th gen maximas sayin they hit over 130 without a rev speed meter are either 1: full of $hit 2: you have some terrible speedo error. I have a 02 SE Auto and have hit 130 and will not gain anymore but it doesn't cut you back like some of the other guys are saying in the 00-01 autos. This is facts guys for all you other autos sayin you have top over 130 need to get your speedo checked.

Matt
As usual , I second Matt, like I said, how many more times do you want me to try it.


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