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Old 03-11-2003, 12:03 PM
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Why are 2k-2k1 owners trading in?

There is a trend of many original 5th gen owners trading in after only a couple of years of ownership. Please tell me something so I don't feel bad about still driving my car
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Re: Why are 2k-2k1 owners trading in?

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There is a trend of many original 5th gen owners trading in after only a couple of years of ownership. Please tell me something so I don't feel bad about still driving my car
I guess some people like to feel they have the latest and greatest. Even though a lot of people don't like the 6th gen. I'm sure there will be several that trade their 5th gen in for one.
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Re: Why are 2k-2k1 owners trading in?

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There is a trend of many original 5th gen owners trading in after only a couple of years of ownership. Please tell me something so I don't feel bad about still driving my car
personal preferences play a role. maybe they can afford a "better" car like a lexus. or maybe that put on too many miles per year to keep it for 5-6 years.
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Hell no

the used value is so low on the max, you had better plan on keeping that biatch 5+ years.
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Re: Why are 2k-2k1 owners trading in?

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There is a trend of many original 5th gen owners trading in after only a couple of years of ownership. Please tell me something so I don't feel bad about still driving my car

I don't know about a 'trend of many owners'...yes I have seen a few but I think that is more the exception. I guess if it is not a 'replacement' for a wreck or a finalization of a lease it is a matter of some people not havng anything better to do with their $$$. Some of us are quite content with the 2K or 2K1 and even if we did trade, I know there are alot of those owners who very likely would get something other than another Max.
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I can see both sides of the argument to keeping or trading, as one that hopefuly won't be upside down too much longer (just refinanced the NNA loan to a simple interest loan! ). On the one hand, I love my car, but wish I had waited for the more powerful VQ35. OTOH, I'm glad I don't have the the 2k2 and 2k3 6 spds cable linkage, or the HID headache... For now I'll put up with the lousy dealer experience and stick with the Max. When the time comes maybe I'll go for a low miles G35 or even Q45...
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Re: Why are 2k-2k1 owners trading in?

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There is a trend of many original 5th gen owners trading in after only a couple of years of ownership. Please tell me something so I don't feel bad about still driving my car
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I'm actually fine with my car. Absolutely 0 (zero) problems since the day I picked it up. However, I do find that it hydroplanes on the crappy potenzas. But, that's it. I have about 42k on my 2k max so far.

Like someone mentioned, I wouldn't trade it in. You'll probably get raped on the trade-in value.

I plan on using it as a door-stop in 10 years. Oh wait, I have something like that already...
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this is around the time that leases made in 2000 or 2001 are ending??

mine ends in november this year and i'm definetly getting rid of the max.... after three years of long waiting. i've developed oppressive moderator #5's policy of "no stick no drive"
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if i kept my car stock to begin with, i wouldnt hate it as much
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Originally posted by ToYLeT902
if i kept my car stock to begin with, i wouldnt hate it as much
but whats the sense of modding it, it is still the same car..well maybe a lil' faster..because to make it a lot faster would require at least 5 grand...enough to cover the losses and get a new car.
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Well, I am a 2K owner and have been flip/flopping on trade or keep for a while now. If I do trade I am going for another car with better dealer service (this is my own 3rd maxima and 6th nissan). Still, now i am 28 I know I dont want to have the hassle of renting when I take a car for service. Here is the sad part about what I just said: my wife needs her own car (thank God) and she is dead set on an Altima (99-01 only). So much for getting rid of Nissan service!
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Old 03-11-2003, 05:12 PM
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To each his own -and his/her wallet. I for

one would love to swap my car for a G35 but the sensible side of me says that's silly -and I hope that the sensible side of me will continue to win out in my head. After all, at this rate -19 months and 13.3k miles- I can drive this thing until the next decade...
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wanted the 6-speed and more power
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I just think alot of peeps, just want the 3.5 in either a 2k2 or 2k3 maybe to a lesser extent the 2k4. Stock for stock the 3.5 is just alot more impressive and most guys in here are performance nuts, but I would just hate to be upside down on a car like so many. The 00/01 ar great cars if my 2001 hadnt been totalled I would have that mug for a while.
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Trading in for another Maxima would be staying in the same class.

I have a 2000 SE and while the thought of trading in for a 2k2/2k3 is extremely appealing, I'm going to resist temptation and upgrade a class next time around.
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Re: Trading in for another Maxima would be staying in the same class.

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I have a 2000 SE and while the thought of trading in for a 2k2/2k3 is extremely appealing, I'm going to resist temptation and upgrade a class next time around.





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Old 03-12-2003, 02:17 AM
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I probably could have been happy with the vq30 for a long time. All it takes is some forced induction

However what it really boils down to is two words:

Manual Transmission
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Old 03-15-2003, 01:06 AM
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resale value

The low resale value is the only reason I can afford to now be part of the Max brethren :-) My trade of 98 Accord EX (with a wimpy 4 banger) up to a 2K Maxima GXE was only about $4000 difference (Canadian dollars, that is), with the Max obviously having a lot fewer clicks on it - 91,000 compared to almost 118,000 on my old Accord.

Sure there are nits to pick - black is not the best colour espescially considering how easially scratches show up, and I'm not hot for the dealer-installed remote starter - but still it is a huge improvement for a little more than what my Accord got traded in for. I think I'll be trading in my 2K for a 2003 SE in about 2006 - I don't have unlimited amounts of cash like most here seem to :-)
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I would like to upgrade too but then I think about the cost of that extra horsepower and torque. I am guessing that for an extra 20-30 HP is going to cost six thousand dollars or more. It is not worth it for me. Also I just remember that it is just a car. If I wanted to spend $6000 for power, I would get a Datsun 1972 Z car with a 350 HP Chevy 350 in a 2500 lb car. Thinking about getting this calms my trade in feelings.
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The VQ35 may only have about 20HP extra (real, not rated), but also about 50 lb-ft of torque more. That's where most of the difference is.
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My lease is up next month, but I plan on keeping my 2K SE. Sure, I'd like the extra power of the 3.5L. But I don't want the headaches of drive by wire.

I've got my 2K modded pretty much the way I like it. It's fast enough for my 5.5 mile one-way daily commute to work on surface streets. And it runs like a top. With less than 32K on the odo, I figure it's good for at least another 3 years.

Last but not least, this will be my last FWD car. Next time it's either RWD or AWD for me.
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Re: Trading in for another Maxima would be staying in the same class.

Originally posted by lcf
I have a 2000 SE and while the thought of trading in for a 2k2/2k3 is extremely appealing, I'm going to resist temptation and upgrade a class next time around.
good idea...

what are you thinking of in terms of an upgrade?

BMW 5 series?

Lexus GS?

Infiniti?

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Originally posted by SteVTEC
The VQ35 may only have about 20HP extra (real, not rated), but also about 50 lb-ft of torque more. That's where most of the difference is.
It still is a lot of money for that 50 torque though...
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Due to the Max's depreciation, for use 2K-2K1 owners, it seems more economical to spend 4K for a Stillen supercharger than to get raped on a trade-in. My 2K1 has been super reliable and problem free in 2 years of ownership.

Bottom line is I'm not trading.
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Re: Why are 2k-2k1 owners trading in?

As someone who has done it, the 2k2/3 is 100000000000000000x better in the sense of build quality (If anyone says otherwise, PM me). Also the greater power and sharper steering. Not to mention the better brakes (they fade less easily) and transmission. Just a better all around maxima. Tthats my 2 cents......
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Re: Re: Why are 2k-2k1 owners trading in?

Originally posted by E55AMG2
As someone who has done it, the 2k2/3 is 100000000000000000x better in the sense of build quality (If anyone says otherwise, PM me). Also the greater power and sharper steering. Not to mention the better brakes (they fade less easily) and transmission. Just a better all around maxima. Tthats my 2 cents......
In the 6th gen forum, a 2K2 owner is saying the 6th gen is so much better than the 2K2/2K3. When do you stop upgrading?

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=196051
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Originally posted by y2kse
My lease is up next month, but I plan on keeping my 2K SE. Sure, I'd like the extra power of the 3.5L. But I don't want the headaches of drive by wire.

I've got my 2K modded pretty much the way I like it. It's fast enough for my 5.5 mile one-way daily commute to work on surface streets. And it runs like a top. With less than 32K on the odo, I figure it's good for at least another 3 years.

Last but not least, this will be my last FWD car. Next time it's either RWD or AWD for me.

I agree with you on every point but, how is drive by wire a headache??

At least there's no throttle cable to worry about getting stuck or loose. I like the consistent response of the DWB system. Other than not being able to easily change TB's it's not so bad.

This is definitely my last FWD car aswell.
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Originally posted by jkratzer
Due to the Max's depreciation, for use 2K-2K1 owners, it seems more economical to spend 4K for a Stillen supercharger than to get raped on a trade-in. My 2K1 has been super reliable and problem free in 2 years of ownership.

Bottom line is I'm not trading.
I never realized just how bad the depreciation is for Maximas until this thread make me check on kbb.com - Wow, After 3 years my Maxima is worth half of what I paid for it.
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Re: Re: Re: Why are 2k-2k1 owners trading in?

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In the 6th gen forum, a 2K2 owner is saying the 6th gen is so much better than the 2K2/2K3. When do you stop upgrading?

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=196051
So true, gotta stop somewhere unless you have plenty of money. I'm definitely keeping my 2k1 SE for at least another 3 years and then hopefully move up to a Benz or Lexus.

If I sell my car today, I will basically break even on the loan. If I keep it another 3 years, I will get at least $8-9k when I sell it and use that amount as down payment on another car.
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Re: Re: Why are 2k-2k1 owners trading in?

Originally posted by E55AMG2
As someone who has done it, the 2k2/3 is 100000000000000000x better in the sense of build quality (If anyone says otherwise, PM me). Also the greater power and sharper steering. Not to mention the better brakes (they fade less easily) and transmission. Just a better all around maxima. Tthats my 2 cents......
Don't know where you get your ideas from...2K2/2K3's have:

-same paint issues
-same lousy stock tires
-actually a SOFTER SE suspension
-front ends that need recalls
-CD changers that are dropping like flies
-notchy 6 speed shifter
-delay from throttle by wire

on a positive I guess some interior treatments
powerful engine

but let's not forget:

-ricer tailights
-HID's that look like a bunch of bundled flashlights in a housing (if you can keep them on your car)

Personally I don't see where they are quantum leaps beyond the 2k/2k1's.
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I have 71,000 miles on my 2001 Max, won't be trading $hit in
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Re: Re: Re: Why are 2k-2k1 owners trading in?

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Don't know where you get your ideas from...2K2/2K3's have:

-same paint issues
-same lousy stock tires
-actually a SOFTER SE suspension
-front ends that need recalls
-CD changers that are dropping like flies
-notchy 6 speed shifter
-delay from throttle by wire

on a positive I guess some interior treatments
powerful engine

but let's not forget:

-ricer tailights
-HID's that look like a bunch of bundled flashlights in a housing (if you can keep them on your car)

Personally I don't see where they are quantum leaps beyond the 2k/2k1's.
I like my flashlights and so do a lot of other people who want to steal them =P
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Why are 2k-2k1 owners trading in?

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I like my flashlights and so do a lot of other people who want to steal them =P
4 headlights are better than 1 right?
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Why are 2k-2k1 owners trading in?

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4 headlights are better than 1 right?
What? Are we comparing to a motorcycle?



Give me my AE lights any day. Low beams are fine for my needs and when I am around home on country roads I use high beams (that is what they are for). Hassles aside, I hate the look of those HID's.
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but whats the sense of modding it, it is still the same car..well maybe a lil' faster..because to make it a lot faster would require at least 5 grand...enough to cover the losses and get a new car.
With bolt ons, you can make a 2k 5spd at least as fast as a 2k2+ auto so I'd say they mods are worthwhile. At least makes me feel like I can hang with SOME of the 2k2/2k3s. LOL.
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With bolt ons, you can make a 2k 5spd at least as fast as a 2k2+ auto so I'd say they mods are worthwhile. At least makes me feel like I can hang with SOME of the 2k2/2k3s. LOL.
I agree!
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