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Old Apr 4, 2003 | 08:14 AM
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Here is how I see it, I don't see it as bringing it up to spec. WHY? Well the big picture is that this TSB also applies to the 3.5 Altima. UNLESS The ECU flash for the altima decreses power


Originally posted by NizanDrivn


As I said before, the "improvement" in performance the some are seeing, maybe in fact just an update to bring the car up to specs...

Old Apr 4, 2003 | 01:38 PM
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Anyone get this done in NYC yet? Beiner Nissan refused to do this becuase they couldn't "replicate" the hesitation problem. I am looking for a dealer who will just do the upgrade without a big argument . . .

The dealer did confirm that my ECU is the right version for the upgrade and the new MAF.

Anyone know how much the new MAF would cost if I wanted to pay to have this done?
Old Apr 5, 2003 | 02:39 PM
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Anymore results from TSB fixes? Auto and 6-speed results please.
Old Apr 5, 2003 | 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by Quicksilver


Sorry guys, but when I tried to post it, the dang .org was down!

If it hasn't been posted yet, here it is...link to it anyway

2002-2003 TSB for drive by wire hesitation

It's in .PDF format (Adobe Acrobat)...5 seperate pages...scroll down to the bottom of the page
Ok everyone, here's what I realized. There are two TSB's being discussed in this thread and both have the same fix but different symptoms. The first TSB listed is for the "hesitation issue" the second TSB listed is for a "low power issue". Both require flashing the ECM and upgrading the MAF if needed. However, my experience should stand as a good indicator that dealers will only apply the first TSB "hesitation issue" if they duplicate the hesitation. Many dealers don't know what to look for and have trouble duplicating the issue. The second TSB discusses a "loss of power" this also is not easy to replicate, but if I had to guess, dealers would be more prone to applying the "loss of power" TSB than the "hesitation issue" TSB because the criteria are much more vague. I am going to try another dealer with the new TSB for "loss of power" to try and get the update.

Also, I posted about this elsewhere, but here is a link I just disovered with shows all current Nissan TSB's:

http://www.nissan-techinfo.com/nissa...x.asp?mscssid=
Old Apr 5, 2003 | 04:03 PM
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Originally posted by 2K255HP
Has anyone noticed that for the auto and manual "if you confirm" parts, the manual says hesitiation between 2k-3k something like that and for the auto it says slight lack of power during acceleration.
Just kinda interested me when the "if you confirm" parts were different, anyone go about "How to" recreate the problem in an auto
does no one read my posts

Old Apr 5, 2003 | 05:22 PM
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My bad.

Sorry.

I should have said "Software update". NT 4 SP6 comes to mind. Even with BIOS upgrades, often they come out to fix hardware incompatibilities with RAM, video cards, or SCSI cards. Since Nissan's don't generally come with third party hardware, it's a bad analogy.

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Originally posted by NizanDrivn


I beg to differ...Using your computer analogy, I frequently update my BIOS on every single PC that I've had....IF something does go wrong then your screwed, but if proper procedure is follow, doing a CRC check on update before flashing, and again after before reboot, VERY rarely do things go wrong. This is in my experience.

Again, in my experience, updates usually clear up some aliments that user/consumers don't really see/feel. Any there are plenty of examples, ie. a simple tweak in the way chipset communicates with main memory can improve performance and resolve software bugs.

Car, IMHO, are the same, and for that matter much anything that is software controlled...EVEN mobile phones!!!...

Back to the point, most updates ARE beneficial, this doesn't mean that one should get ALL updates that come out, especially in this particular instance (ECU). As I said before, the "improvement" in performance the some are seeing, maybe in fact just an update to bring the car up to specs...

Has anyone who has had the ECU update FOR the hiccup driven a non-hiccuping Max???...or vice-versa???...
Old Apr 5, 2003 | 05:24 PM
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ABS,

If you absolutely are getting nowhere with your dealership, I can e-mail you my letter describing the symptom(s) and the "how and why" to replicate it. I plan to go armed with this to my dealer on Tuesday. The difference is, is that your dealer has access to these TSBs while mine may not (because I'm a second class Canadian )

Let me know.

10e

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Anyone get this done in NYC yet? Beiner Nissan refused to do this becuase they couldn't "replicate" the hesitation problem. I am looking for a dealer who will just do the upgrade without a big argument . . .

The dealer did confirm that my ECU is the right version for the upgrade and the new MAF.

Anyone know how much the new MAF would cost if I wanted to pay to have this done?
Old Apr 5, 2003 | 05:34 PM
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Originally posted by 10e
ABS,

If you absolutely are getting nowhere with your dealership, I can e-mail you my letter describing the symptom(s) and the "how and why" to replicate it. I plan to go armed with this to my dealer on Tuesday. The difference is, is that your dealer has access to these TSBs while mine may not (because I'm a second class Canadian )

Let me know.

10e

That would be great! I am actually thinking about using a two pronged approach. With your letter, I may be able to get them to replicate the hesitation, but I am also going to complain about a power loss . . . I think initially, I am not going to tell the dealer about either specific TSB . . . it will be better if they tell me about it first. Only if that strategy fails, will I show them the TSB's we have here on the .org.

Please e-mail me the letter if you can. Thanks!
Old Apr 7, 2003 | 05:30 AM
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UPDATE!
Old Apr 7, 2003 | 06:03 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by ABS
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That would be great! I am actually thinking about using a two pronged approach. With your letter, I may be able to get them to replicate the hesitation, but I am also going to complain about a power loss . . . I think initially, I am not going to tell the dealer about either specific TSB . . . it will be better if they tell me about it first. Only if that strategy fails, will I show them the TSB's we have here on the .org.

Please e-mail me the letter if you can.

Don't go to Star either, they refused to do it. I'll have to try Koppel next.
Old Apr 7, 2003 | 07:05 AM
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NJ ECU UPDATE

Has anyone got the update done in NJ. I am having trouble finding a good dealer to help me out.
Thanks
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 10:25 AM
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My car seems fine. They ended up not replacing any coilpacks but they did replace the MAF. Combined with the ECU reprogram, I think she's healthy.

Now I just need to get an Apexi filter for my Injen before I reinstall. After that, maybe I'll get back to the track.
Old Apr 7, 2003 | 01:23 PM
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Re: NJ ECU UPDATE

Originally posted by 03MaxSe6spdNJ
Has anyone got the update done in NJ. I am having trouble finding a good dealer to help me out.
Thanks
adam
It's a bit far, but see if you can get to Hilltop Nissan in East Hanover (on Rt. 10). They gave me no lip, and are aware of the procedure. If you're lucky you won't need a MAF and have to go back when it comes in.

Just don't ask to get your timing advanced... they'll YES you to death!!
Old Apr 7, 2003 | 01:29 PM
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Re: Re: NJ ECU UPDATE

whats the phone number, Ill make a day of it. Thanks.
Old Apr 7, 2003 | 01:34 PM
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Re: Re: Re: NJ ECU UPDATE

Originally posted by 03MaxSe6spdNJ
whats the phone number, Ill make a day of it. Thanks.
That's great news! Not too far from NYC. Just looked up the number on the internet: (973) 887-5400
Old Apr 7, 2003 | 01:37 PM
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Re: Re: NJ ECU UPDATE

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It's a bit far, but see if you can get to Hilltop Nissan in East Hanover (on Rt. 10). They gave me no lip, and are aware of the procedure. If you're lucky you won't need a MAF and have to go back when it comes in.

Just don't ask to get your timing advanced... they'll YES you to death!!
Could you tell us what process you followed? Did you just complain about the symptoms of the problem or did you specifically ask them to perform the TSB? If you asked for the TSB, which one did you request (the power loss TSB or hesitation TSB or both)? Thanks in advance!
Old Apr 7, 2003 | 02:10 PM
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Re: Re: Re: NJ ECU UPDATE

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Could you tell us what process you followed? Did you just complain about the symptoms of the problem or did you specifically ask them to perform the TSB? If you asked for the TSB, which one did you request (the power loss TSB or hesitation TSB or both)? Thanks in advance!
Unfortunately, I had forgotten to bring the TSB with me. I mentioned that "I've been experiencing a strange intermittent hesitation when I accelerate". I also said that "I thought it was normal until a friend brought the TSB to my attention". I just asked if they would perform the Hesitation TSB for the 2002-2003 Maxima. The service Rep (Jerry) wasn't aware of the TSB, but one of the other guys overheard our conversation and schooled him on the issue. I left the dealership, and got a call a little while later to "pick up the car and to make an appointment when the MAF comes in". Three days later the parts guy called me, and I made the follow up appointment.

Pretty painless since I was working at a client less than 5 miles away.

While you are there, take the 350z for a test drive, or the 2004 Maxima for that matter. I had to get back to work both times, so there was no time to play.
Old Apr 7, 2003 | 02:17 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: NJ ECU UPDATE

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Unfortunately, I had forgotten to bring the TSB with me. I mentioned that "I've been experiencing a strange intermittent hesitation when I accelerate". I also said that "I thought it was normal until a friend brought the TSB to my attention". I just asked if they would perform the Hesitation TSB for the 2002-2003 Maxima. The service Rep (Jerry) wasn't aware of the TSB, but one of the other guys overheard our conversation and schooled him on the issue. I left the dealership, and got a call a little while later to "pick up the car and to make an appointment when the MAF comes in". Three days later the parts guy called me, and I made the follow up appointment.

Pretty painless since I was working at a client less than 5 miles away.

While you are there, take the 350z for a test drive, or the 2004 Maxima for that matter. I had to get back to work both times, so there was no time to play.
Thanks so much! It sounds like they are really easy going about this repair, so I will have to bring my car in to them.
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 08:48 AM
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Just setup an appointment for this Wednesday morning. I did get Jerry on the phone, so hopefully he'll hook me up.
Old Apr 14, 2003 | 03:32 PM
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Sorry if this was already mentioned. I know that the MAF #'s of: 22680-6n200 & 22680-6n201 are the bad MAF's. Just found out that I had the first one. Anyway, is there any documentation I may need that lists these serial numbers as the one affected? I have the TSB that says the new part #. I just want to be preparred for rediculous answers they may throw my way........Thanks!
Old Apr 14, 2003 | 08:10 PM
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will get this tsb done along with wind noise tsb at the next oil change. i've been trying to pay more attention to this problem, and i do have this hesitation prob at full throttle at times.
Old Apr 14, 2003 | 09:22 PM
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Originally posted by Vadim
went to a dealer today. they checked it out. he said that he didn't feel any hesitations (weird), but they will fix it anyway because it applies to my car . And the MAF will have to be replaced too. So, I am going back next week (they are waiting for a new MAF to come in) and they will fix it altogether.
they didnt mind your aftermarket intake?
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 07:34 PM
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Originally posted by jimz02max
Sorry if this was already mentioned. I know that the MAF #'s of: 22680-6n200 & 22680-6n201 are the bad MAF's.
Where in the MAF are these numbers printed? Just wondering if my 2k2 has one of these.
Old Apr 16, 2003 | 07:36 AM
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Where in the MAF are these numbers printed? Just wondering if my 2k2 has one of these.
my MAF is in and i will post tommorrow the gains!
Old Apr 16, 2003 | 07:38 AM
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Has anyone done a dyno or a 1/4 mile to see if anything is different?
Old Apr 17, 2003 | 02:42 PM
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i got my TSB done and a tranny flush... all i can say is holy &T*&^
this is not the same car, better pick up and no hesitation to shift i really think that this TSB help 85% the other % is waiting to be tested on the highway as soon as the weekend gets here!! any questions?

is worth it!

Playero,
Old Apr 17, 2003 | 02:45 PM
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I did it yesterday and they reprogrammed by ECU, but said I didnt need the MAF. I can feel a difference the slight lag I had is gone although I never had that big of aproblem like some.
Old Apr 17, 2003 | 03:11 PM
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Originally posted by playero
i got my TSB done and a tranny flush... all i can say is holy &T*&^
this is not the same car, better pick up and no hesitation to shift i really think that this TSB help 85% the other % is waiting to be tested on the highway as soon as the weekend gets here!! any questions?

is worth it!

Playero,
thanx for letting us know. ima get mine done too
Old Apr 17, 2003 | 04:03 PM
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Where in the MAF are these numbers printed? Just wondering if my 2k2 has one of these.
The numbers are printed on the side of the MAF assembly. To recognize the assembly, look where your air filter is. Now look towards the rear of the filter and you'll see a round tube coming off the airbox that is held in by 4 bolts. That is the MAF assembly. The numbers should be facing the front of the car, and are difficult to read, under most circumstances, without removing the airbox.

I've also gotten the TSB done and haven't really noticed anything, but I don't count. I went from a WAI to stock for a week before having it done, so everything seems slow to me. I've gotten the update done, but haven't converted back to WAI/CAI yet. I'm planning on converting back soon, and I'll have dyno numbers in another week or two. The dyno shop I'm using has just gotten their new dyno installed and is setting me up once they've finished all the testing.... Geez I need some tuning... I wish they'd hurry up!!!
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Originally posted by playero
i got my TSB done and a tranny flush... all i can say is holy &T*&^
this is not the same car, better pick up and no hesitation to shift i really think that this TSB help 85% the other % is waiting to be tested on the highway as soon as the weekend gets here!! any questions?

is worth it!

Playero,
Taking mine to the dealer tomorrow... The service guy was surprised I knew about the TBS and even more when I told him a had a hardcopy of it. The .orgy ROCKS!!
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Taking mine to the dealer tomorrow... The service guy was surprised I knew about the TBS and even more when I told him a had a hardcopy of it. The .orgy ROCKS!!
Just got back. They ordered the MAF and they are doing the complete service once they receive the MAF.
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Old Apr 19, 2003 | 03:46 PM
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Well I got my car back from the dealer Monday afternoon but I had to leave the state that afternoon/ I finally got a chance to go out today but didnt notice too much of a difference in power. I put my intake back on and went out and romped around for a little while. No more hesitation really. Either way I got a new MAF and the upgraded code so I am a happy camper.
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Originally posted by remykins
Well I got my car back from the dealer Monday afternoon but I had to leave the state that afternoon/ I finally got a chance to go out today but didnt notice too much of a difference in power. I put my intake back on and went out and romped around for a little while. No more hesitation really. Either way I got a new MAF and the upgraded code so I am a happy camper.

When was your BUILD DATE.
THANKS
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Originally posted by remykins
Well I got my car back from the dealer Monday afternoon but I had to leave the state that afternoon/ I finally got a chance to go out today but didnt notice too much of a difference in power. I put my intake back on and went out and romped around for a little while. No more hesitation really. Either way I got a new MAF and the upgraded code so I am a happy camper.
how would you know if your MAF is bad, they told me I didnt need it but they reprogrammed my ECU?
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Originally posted by MONTE 01&97 SE
how would you know if your MAF is bad, they told me I didnt need it but they reprogrammed my ECU?


Check part# on MAF with the new current one in the TSB.
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