03 Maxima SE, or Acura TL S type? Both stock and both auto same years..??

 

Very evenly matched. The Maxima has more low end torque and will have more lower end bark.

 

I raced one. took him by 2 carlengths all 5 runs

 

My money is on the Max.

 

my money is on the better driver

 

The Acura has 260 hp and 232 ft-lbs of torque and weighs 3558 lbs. The Maxima has 255 hp and 246 ft-lbs of torque and weighs 3224 lbs. Knowing this, I think it would be a close race, but since I am a VQ believer a will put my money on the Maxima.

 

The Max has more like 275lb-ft of torque. Countless dyno's prove this.

 

to be non bias.....heres a minus for the Maxima....they have better gearing out of their 5spd auto than we do in our 4spd auto....but when they reach gear 3 or 4 (someone check)...that is where they lose most of their power and slowly accelerate after that.

These cars are evenly matched pretty much and it comes down to driver

 

but when they reach gear 3 or 4 (someone check)...that is where they lose most of their power and slowly accelerate after that.


They meaning the maxima, or they menaing the Acura?

 

I'd say the Max would win. A 4 vs a 6cyl?! Now that I'm reminded, who would win, 5.0 Mustang or 2000 Max both fully stock. I'd say the Max because the 5.0 arn't that fast, and I'm not just sayin that because I'm a max lover.

 

Well i think the Acura TLS is a 6 and not a 4.. I also think the Mustang would win they had 225hp with more torque compared to the 00 maxima's 222hp(i think). The mustang also has more agressive cams and computer..

 

I think it all depends on the drivers. I hate to say but, there was a video posted here awhile ago*tried to find it*and the max got spanked.

 

i'm betting all on the monkey in a pinto.



























































please god let it stop.

 

which video was that?

 

I posted on this topic about 2 weeks ago. I have a 2000 Gxe and i raced a 2003 tl-s and i beat him to about 60 70 then he slowly stared to come back. I just have and intake and a udp. I think if i had a y pipe i would of won. BUT YOU WILL KILL HIM IF YOU HAVE A 02 03 max.

 

I posted on this topic about 2 weeks ago. I have a 2000 Gxe and i raced a 2003 tl-s and i beat him to about 60 70 then he slowly stared to come back. I just have and intake and a udp. I think if i had a y pipe i would of won. BUT YOU WILL KILL HIM IF YOU HAVE A 02 03 max.

 

OK my car must be slow b/c I ran one a few days ago and couldn't pull an inch until around 100. I admit after 100 we were filming through the rear window. I would estimate 4 cars at 120. Of course I had an extra 220 lb passenger and we ran from a roll which is the auto maxima weak spot. So either my car is slow or his folks have a freak tls.

Matt

 

Those passengers make a difference. I had two passengers vs. a Type S
with 4 passengers(friends of mine) on a 35mph roll. I immediately pulled 1/2
car ahead and was a full car ahead by ~80mph. This is with my 97 5spd.
I'm pretty sure he would have been even or pulled on me if he was
less 2 passengers but I'm not complaining about the win!!
2003 Max should take this race!! Money on the Max.


boo

 

This topic has been discussed untill the cows came home and were beaten to death. I wish search were working, cuz you'd find 50 billion+ threads on this.

 

It is working

 

For donating memebers.

 

my dyno'd at 204hp and 219#ft of torque at the wheels, what do we think that is at the crank?

-vq

 

240hp and 265tq

 

At an 18% drivetrain loss, it's around 260lb-ft at the crank, I was over exhaggerating a bit. Your HP only suggests around 241 at the crank too, so it seems Nissan over rated the HP and under rated the torque.

 

Yours Could be slower.........

My father in law has a 03 TL-S, I have driven it, and "raced" with it too.

My 6sp is MUCH quicker, and faster on the highway.

But I do have a 6sp, so its not a fair comparison against an auto.

 

that's alot of torque, no wonder all the torque steer....

-vq

 

A 6spd with identical mods pulled about 1.5 cars on me from 50-120. I pull on the tls just not until about 100 then it looks like he hit the brakes lol. I trap 96-97 on street tires so this might be a factory freak tls

 

yeah could be.

 

you comin to the VA meet in april 25-26 or are you still on lockdown

 

is this better than underrating the HP but
overrating the torque? which is more usefeul?

 

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I know that when I ease the clutch into first gear without touching the gas and w/o the A/C on, and having it idling forward takes torque. I know that it takes torque to thrust you off the line and into the gears. And I know it takes torque to get that pit of your stomach rush when you floor it.

I'd rather Nissan rated everything correctly. But the common person isn't going to look at torque numbers, all you see on commercials is "how many HP?". So I think it's an advertising ploy.

 

i would much rather have 20 more tq and 15 less hp

 

Then your engine would start looking more like an old mustang 5.0
215hp/300tq

 

I don't live in VA anymore....Im in SC.

 

naaaa $hit I asked if you were goin to the meet not if you lived in VA Its basically east coast maxus

 

if its auto vs auto, i think TL will have the edge because of the smaller gearing in the first 3 or 4.. i forget the specs.. But manual Max vs a TLs (which is only in 5 speed auto for 2k2 and 2k3) the max definatly beat it. I plan to race my friends TL one day and see who wins (i have an auto).

 

What about the extra ~30lb-ft of torque that the Maxima has? Not to mention available at lower RPM.

 

Auto vs. Auto, the TL-S is a bit quicker than the 2K2+ Maxima from 0-110 MPH because of the 5spd auto of the TL-S vs. the 4spd of the Maxima. 3rd gear on the TL-S (70-110 MPH) is awesome....it's all VTEC. If it's close to 70 MPH, I guarantee the TL-S will start pulling then.

There's no doubt that the VQ is a great engine, but the TL-S engine is (dare I say) even more amazing. I love this quote on the TL-S engine in the March '03 Motor Trend from its Executive editor: "The V6 just freaking wails, making all the right noises, with good torque down low and VTEC enhanced power up high."

 

But it's still a torqueless wonder down low compared to the VQ.

Is it the VQ or Honduh VTEC that's been praised for being one of the, if not the best V6 in the world since 1995? The VQ.

Just kidding around ...but....VQ does own YOU