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Old 04-17-2003 | 02:21 PM
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Hand braking

i tried hand braking in my mustang (emergency brake) to bring my rear end around once (mostly out of curiosity) and didn't get any response from the car.

i got myself into a bit of a bind the other day where braking later and getting some oversteer would have gotten me out of the way of oncoming traffic sooner. i started to reach for my brake handle, but then thought better of it.

is this an advisable what to artificially induce oversteer in a '00 maxima? i read 'secrets of solo racing' and it talked about careful application of the parking brake to induce oversteer at low speeds for front wheel drive cars.

does anyone have any experience with this on the max? does it active both rear wheels or only one? does it bypass the ABS controller?

any info is greatly appreciated.
Old 04-17-2003 | 03:30 PM
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I have used the hand brake a couple times in winter for fun around corners, but I wouldn't recommend it for everyday driving. Remember, its just a cable. You can't really modulate it quickly.
Old 04-17-2003 | 03:34 PM
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Not such a good idea in the max, cause once you get to a certain angle, there aint no comin back. Autocross is not like traffic, there isnt a chance of your max gettin plowed into. Be careful man.
Old 04-17-2003 | 03:50 PM
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i'll secong e55amg2. i tried that just for kicks too. it's kind of an all or nothing deal. all you feel is a pathetic attempt to stop the car, then if you pull a bit harder, you're fishtailing. def hard to control with any finesse when you're in traffic.
Old 04-17-2003 | 04:33 PM
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Re: Hand braking

Originally posted by jmartinson
i got myself into a bit of a bind the other day where braking later and getting some oversteer would have gotten me out of the way of oncoming traffic sooner.
SLOW DOWN

The streets you drive on are not the place to be doing stuff like that. Your going to hurt somebody with that kind of driving.
Old 04-17-2003 | 04:57 PM
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To disable any ABS system..

It can be done.. YOu need to be on slick ICE...

PUll your hand brake, and accelerate so your front wheels spin..

HOld it up to abour 30km/h and then ABS will disable because it detects a malfunction (front wheels turning, rear wheels not)..

I used to do this to my mazda... and i did it ot my max..

Man no abs is alot harder to drive..

ED
Old 04-18-2003 | 08:09 AM
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Thanks for all the input.

Yeah, it definitely wasn't a situation I intended to get into. I was turning from a side street onto a road with 3 lanes each way and a median. I had plenty of power to make it to the far lane where I was going to enter a left-turn-only break in the median.

I made it into the 3rd lane just fine, but what I didn't see was a black firebird hauling *** in (what was now) my direction.

Thanks again...
Old 04-18-2003 | 09:17 AM
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you want oversteer?


tap the brake (barely) with your left foot while momentarily coming off the throttle. Your car has to be loaded towards the outside wheels for this to work. If your chassis/suspension setup is correct your rear will swing around. Countersteer a little and get back on the throttle and you'll straighten out. It takes practice, and I wouldn't try it on the street =P

Don't use the hand brake. You'll most likely just spin out.
Old 04-18-2003 | 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by MiniRX7
To disable any ABS system..

It can be done.. YOu need to be on slick ICE...

PUll your hand brake, and accelerate so your front wheels spin..

HOld it up to abour 30km/h and then ABS will disable because it detects a malfunction (front wheels turning, rear wheels not)..

I used to do this to my mazda... and i did it ot my max..

Man no abs is alot harder to drive..

ED
Why in the world would you do this?
Old 04-18-2003 | 03:32 PM
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Because i am an idiot!!


Actually because i wanted to know how it was like driving without ABS... and with ABS..

ED
Old 04-18-2003 | 03:35 PM
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Isn't there a fuse you can pull?

Originally posted by MiniRX7
Because i am an idiot!!


Actually because i wanted to know how it was like driving without ABS... and with ABS..

ED
Old 04-18-2003 | 07:25 PM
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Guys. Don't Do This. I can tell you from experience. Even on a straight away, once the car passes 13 degrees, and you haven't already started correcting the skid, you're past the POINT OF NO RETURN. I know this. We learned the physics of all of it in Police Driving and Patrol Vehicle Dynamics. We confirmed this on an abandoned Airport runway. It's fun when you know you're not gonna hurt anything, but on the streets, its a whole different deal. All I can say, is if you hurt or kill someone playing like that, I'm not responsible.

David


BTW, if you want to test the theory, Put a rubberband on the back tires of a hotwheels car so that the tires wont turn. Place it on a board and tilt the board up. The back of the car will always spin to the front.

FACT, A sliding (locked up) tire has less friction (i.e. traction) than a rotating tire.
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