Turbo/Supercharging the 3.5L
04-27-2003, 03:32 PM
#1
Turbo/Supercharging the 3.5L
Now I'm sure I'm the 27 Bazillionth person to ask this...but because I can't use the search ( 
), has ANYONE attempted to Turbocharge or Supercharge the 3.5L engine (02-03)?
I should probably be posting this in the other area of the forums, but I figured I'd get a quicker response here...
), has ANYONE attempted to Turbocharge or Supercharge the 3.5L engine (02-03)?I should probably be posting this in the other area of the forums, but I figured I'd get a quicker response here...
04-27-2003, 04:02 PM
#5
The stillen S/C for the 350Z could be G-rigged to either the max or the altima but will definetly not clear the hood. So its a damn if you do situation. Then you'll have to get a custom hood made with a 5" cowl goin down the center. Kinda overkill in my opinion.
04-27-2003, 04:03 PM
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Originally posted by HitManSE
The stillen S/C for the 350Z could be G-rigged to either the max or the altima but will definetly not clear the hood. So its a damn if you do situation. Then you'll have to get a custom hood made with a 5" cowl goin down the center. Kinda overkill in my opinion.
The stillen S/C for the 350Z could be G-rigged to either the max or the altima but will definetly not clear the hood. So its a damn if you do situation. Then you'll have to get a custom hood made with a 5" cowl goin down the center. Kinda overkill in my opinion.
04-27-2003, 04:17 PM
#7
Originally posted by Oxidizer2k
just do like some of those people on the fast and furious.. dont put the hood back on...
just do like some of those people on the fast and furious.. dont put the hood back on...
04-27-2003, 06:29 PM
#9
If anyone really wants to be the first turbo 3.5, try these guys out: CMPerformance
04-27-2003, 06:44 PM
#10
Originally posted by HitManSE
The stillen S/C for the 350Z could be G-rigged to either the max or the altima but will definetly not clear the hood. So its a damn if you do situation. Then you'll have to get a custom hood made with a 5" cowl goin down the center. Kinda overkill in my opinion.
The stillen S/C for the 350Z could be G-rigged to either the max or the altima but will definetly not clear the hood. So its a damn if you do situation. Then you'll have to get a custom hood made with a 5" cowl goin down the center. Kinda overkill in my opinion.
I bet you would need atleast a 9 inch cowl hood to clear it.
04-27-2003, 07:09 PM
#12
Originally posted by emax02
I bet you would need atleast a 9 inch cowl hood to clear it.
I bet you would need atleast a 9 inch cowl hood to clear it.
04-27-2003, 07:17 PM
#13
What about the TT kit thats coming out for the 350Z from GReddy??? That doesnt require a new hood... You think that'd fit on the max???
http://www.i-m-racing.com/indevgredtd1.html
http://www.i-m-racing.com/indevgredtd1.html
04-27-2003, 07:25 PM
#14
Originally posted by BlueC
What about the TT kit thats coming out for the 350Z from GReddy??? That doesnt require a new hood... You think that'd fit on the max???
http://www.i-m-racing.com/indevgredtd1.html
What about the TT kit thats coming out for the 350Z from GReddy??? That doesnt require a new hood... You think that'd fit on the max???
http://www.i-m-racing.com/indevgredtd1.html
04-27-2003, 07:56 PM
#15
Originally posted by HitManSE
Well if the 350Z manifold required a 3" cowl from the center of the hood (as you already know) and to make it look right go upward to 5" by the time it reaced the windsheild. Your probably right, the S/C is gonna take up much more room under the hood. What Im really wondering is this, when I drove the G35 that thing had alot of low end power and kept on pullin hard from 2500rpms on up. The 3.5 in the max pulls hard from 4K on up but the low end isnt really anything amazing in my opinion. Do you think that low end grunt the g35 produced was due to the diff manifold? Btw the 1 I drove was the 4dr auto, that thing is still pretty mean.
Well if the 350Z manifold required a 3" cowl from the center of the hood (as you already know) and to make it look right go upward to 5" by the time it reaced the windsheild. Your probably right, the S/C is gonna take up much more room under the hood. What Im really wondering is this, when I drove the G35 that thing had alot of low end power and kept on pullin hard from 2500rpms on up. The 3.5 in the max pulls hard from 4K on up but the low end isnt really anything amazing in my opinion. Do you think that low end grunt the g35 produced was due to the diff manifold? Btw the 1 I drove was the 4dr auto, that thing is still pretty mean.
The 4 door and the 2 door make the same amount of power, and I beleive there about the same weight. The low end torque on a G is a hair less then in a maxima IIRC and they weigh a bit more then a maxima to.
04-27-2003, 08:03 PM
#16
Originally posted by emax02
The 4 door and the 2 door make the same amount of power, and I beleive there about the same weight. The low end torque on a G is a hair less then in a maxima IIRC and they weigh a bit more then a maxima to.
The 4 door and the 2 door make the same amount of power, and I beleive there about the same weight. The low end torque on a G is a hair less then in a maxima IIRC and they weigh a bit more then a maxima to.
04-27-2003, 08:32 PM
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Originally posted by BlueC
What about the TT kit thats coming out for the 350Z from GReddy??? That doesnt require a new hood... You think that'd fit on the max???
http://www.i-m-racing.com/indevgredtd1.html
What about the TT kit thats coming out for the 350Z from GReddy??? That doesnt require a new hood... You think that'd fit on the max???
http://www.i-m-racing.com/indevgredtd1.html
only problem is it only makes 345 hp...that's with modest boost i think though...hoprfully it can be pushed much higher
04-27-2003, 08:39 PM
#18
Originally posted by thrasher
only problem is it only makes 345 hp...that's with modest boost i think though...hoprfully it can be pushed much higher
only problem is it only makes 345 hp...that's with modest boost i think though...hoprfully it can be pushed much higher
04-27-2003, 09:01 PM
#21
Originally posted by CBass69187
How much do you think the stock internals can handle?
How much do you think the stock internals can handle?
SR did I read that correctly.....450 "F"whp?
Hmmm I wonder what your up to.
04-27-2003, 09:10 PM
#23
Originally posted by HitManSE
Well.....If mardi was able to pump out well over 420whp on a VQ30 with a stock long block. The crank hp output is pretty close to 500. Im sure the stock internals of the VQ35 could easily surpass 500 and could even go up to 550 hp at the flywheel w/o any problems. Im sure 600 will be reached on stock internals one day but thats kinda pushing it. These engines are designed well, very well but not perfect. Only a few nissan motors out there could take over 500hp on a stock block. Few that come to mine are the SR20DET, RB26DETT, I guess the VQ30 should be added to this list as well. I think the old Q45 (early 90's) could as well but was never proven.
Well.....If mardi was able to pump out well over 420whp on a VQ30 with a stock long block. The crank hp output is pretty close to 500. Im sure the stock internals of the VQ35 could easily surpass 500 and could even go up to 550 hp at the flywheel w/o any problems. Im sure 600 will be reached on stock internals one day but thats kinda pushing it. These engines are designed well, very well but not perfect. Only a few nissan motors out there could take over 500hp on a stock block. Few that come to mine are the SR20DET, RB26DETT, I guess the VQ30 should be added to this list as well. I think the old Q45 (early 90's) could as well but was never proven.
And the KA's.
I have heard that the VH45 blocks could handle as much as 800. And they were proven upto 700 in IRL the first two years that they were using off the shelf stock Q45 blocks.
04-27-2003, 09:21 PM
#24
I guess this means your no longer messing around. Looks like you want the title of the fastest max, Period. Well good luck man im sure you'll post about this in the near future. (poor VQ
)The VG could probably handle that, but we are speaking of stock internals only right.
BTW there was a link I had but cant seem to find it. It something about were you can send parts from your motor to be specially coated and makes them stronger, more resistant to heat (for the intake manifold) ect... Does any of this sound familiar?
04-27-2003, 09:23 PM
#26
Found it. http://www.swaintech.com/race.html
04-27-2003, 09:25 PM
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04-27-2003, 09:27 PM
#28
Originally posted by SR20DEN
Yeah that was from a previous post. They were one of the options that was suggested for ceramic coating.
Yeah that was from a previous post. They were one of the options that was suggested for ceramic coating.
04-28-2003, 06:53 AM
#29
Originally posted by BlueC
What about the TT kit thats coming out for the 350Z from GReddy??? That doesnt require a new hood... You think that'd fit on the max???
http://www.i-m-racing.com/indevgredtd1.html
What about the TT kit thats coming out for the 350Z from GReddy??? That doesnt require a new hood... You think that'd fit on the max???
http://www.i-m-racing.com/indevgredtd1.html
04-28-2003, 06:53 AM
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Take a look at this thread
These are the folks that make the TRD superchargers for Toyota. They are developing a s/c for the 3.5VQ, first for the 350Z and then for the rest of us. The wait is killing me, though!
These are the folks that make the TRD superchargers for Toyota. They are developing a s/c for the 3.5VQ, first for the 350Z and then for the rest of us. The wait is killing me, though!
04-28-2003, 06:58 AM
#31
Originally posted by 2K2SE
Take a look at this thread
These are the folks that make the TRD superchargers for Toyota. They are developing a s/c for the 3.5VQ, first for the 350Z and then for the rest of us. The wait is killing me, though!
Take a look at this thread
These are the folks that make the TRD superchargers for Toyota. They are developing a s/c for the 3.5VQ, first for the 350Z and then for the rest of us. The wait is killing me, though!
04-28-2003, 06:58 AM
#32
Originally posted by 2K2SE
Take a look at this thread
These are the folks that make the TRD superchargers for Toyota. They are developing a s/c for the 3.5VQ, first for the 350Z and then for the rest of us. The wait is killing me, though!
Take a look at this thread
These are the folks that make the TRD superchargers for Toyota. They are developing a s/c for the 3.5VQ, first for the 350Z and then for the rest of us. The wait is killing me, though!
I just wish manufacturers gave realistic time tables instead of just pulling a date out of thin air. All it does is **** people off. 
04-28-2003, 07:42 AM
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Originally posted by SR20DEN
Roots... BLAH!!
Roots... BLAH!!
04-28-2003, 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by 2K2SE
I know, I know. At least it's something, though. I personally want something that is reliable, not too hard on the ole' autotranny, and is reasonably priced. 60-80HP that's always available (unlike nitrous) suites me just fine.
I know, I know. At least it's something, though. I personally want something that is reliable, not too hard on the ole' autotranny, and is reasonably priced. 60-80HP that's always available (unlike nitrous) suites me just fine.
04-28-2003, 03:45 PM
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Got this e-mail today.. I hate automated responses 
NISSAN
`00-`03 Frontier / X-Terra (3.3L-V6) Supercharger Kit
(anticipate CARB certification)
This kit is in the final stages of development, and anticipate if passing CARB, will include the limited "3-Year / 36,000 Power Train Warranty" and optional "extended power train warranty. As we get nearer to the availability date, will know what other year/model applications this should fit. This will still be offered by Alpine Developments.
Available: Late August.
New MSRP: $3000.
`02-`03 Altima / Sentra (SER & V-Spec) (2.5L-I4) Turbo w/Aqua-cooler Kit
(anticipate CARB certification)
While we are still going to develop an aqua-cooled turbo kit for this engine platform, we are in the final stages of negotiations with a company to manufacture this kit "private label" for them, and will not be able to offer this kit to the aftermarket ourselves. Unfortunately, we can not divulge any more information on this application until it is near completion, and have permission from our client to reveal who they are and details of this kit.
`02-`03 Altima / Maxima / `03 350Z / Infiniti G35 /I35 (3.5L-V6) Aqua-cooled Supercharger Kit
(anticipate CARB certification)
Like the above application, this kit will be developed for the same company to sell "private label", and we will not be offering this application to the aftermarket ourselves. As with the above kit, we can not divulge any more information on this application until near completion, and have permission from our client to reveal who they are and the details of this kit.
`95-`01 Maxima (3.0L-V6) Aqua-cooled Supercharger Kit
(anticipate CARB certification)
We've had enough requests for this application to give it serious consideration, but because of the "private label" applications listed (and several not listed), would not be able to start on this until sometime late this fall, or early winter.
`98-`01 Sentra (1.8L-I4) Turbo Kit
(Off Road & Race Only)
Although this kit is one of many from our S. African stable of existing kits, it may be some time before we are able to bring this over to test fit on a LHD vehicle, re-tune for 91 octane, possibly add an intercooler, and look into the feasibility of getting this CARB tested and certified.
Stephen M. Belanger
Sales & Marketing
S.A. Alpine Developments, Inc.
7581 Acacia Avenue
Garden Grove, Ca. 92841
Ph. (714) 379-8066
Fx. (714) 379-8166
sbelanger@alpine-developments.us
www.alpine-developments.co.za
NISSAN
`00-`03 Frontier / X-Terra (3.3L-V6) Supercharger Kit
(anticipate CARB certification)
This kit is in the final stages of development, and anticipate if passing CARB, will include the limited "3-Year / 36,000 Power Train Warranty" and optional "extended power train warranty. As we get nearer to the availability date, will know what other year/model applications this should fit. This will still be offered by Alpine Developments.
Available: Late August.
New MSRP: $3000.
`02-`03 Altima / Sentra (SER & V-Spec) (2.5L-I4) Turbo w/Aqua-cooler Kit
(anticipate CARB certification)
While we are still going to develop an aqua-cooled turbo kit for this engine platform, we are in the final stages of negotiations with a company to manufacture this kit "private label" for them, and will not be able to offer this kit to the aftermarket ourselves. Unfortunately, we can not divulge any more information on this application until it is near completion, and have permission from our client to reveal who they are and details of this kit.
`02-`03 Altima / Maxima / `03 350Z / Infiniti G35 /I35 (3.5L-V6) Aqua-cooled Supercharger Kit
(anticipate CARB certification)
Like the above application, this kit will be developed for the same company to sell "private label", and we will not be offering this application to the aftermarket ourselves. As with the above kit, we can not divulge any more information on this application until near completion, and have permission from our client to reveal who they are and the details of this kit.
`95-`01 Maxima (3.0L-V6) Aqua-cooled Supercharger Kit
(anticipate CARB certification)
We've had enough requests for this application to give it serious consideration, but because of the "private label" applications listed (and several not listed), would not be able to start on this until sometime late this fall, or early winter.
`98-`01 Sentra (1.8L-I4) Turbo Kit
(Off Road & Race Only)
Although this kit is one of many from our S. African stable of existing kits, it may be some time before we are able to bring this over to test fit on a LHD vehicle, re-tune for 91 octane, possibly add an intercooler, and look into the feasibility of getting this CARB tested and certified.
Stephen M. Belanger
Sales & Marketing
S.A. Alpine Developments, Inc.
7581 Acacia Avenue
Garden Grove, Ca. 92841
Ph. (714) 379-8066
Fx. (714) 379-8166
sbelanger@alpine-developments.us
www.alpine-developments.co.za
04-28-2003, 04:50 PM
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Originally posted by woreyah
Don't you think any forced induction kit should produce at least 50% more power? Most kits for other cars that I've heard of produce that.
Don't you think any forced induction kit should produce at least 50% more power? Most kits for other cars that I've heard of produce that.
04-28-2003, 06:26 PM
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I don't think you could put a roots type blower or any other belt driver blower on the '03 Maxima. Looking under the hood of mine, the serpentine belt is on the left side of the engine way down low and the air intake is on the other side. The 350Z and Infiniti G35 are both rear wheel drive cars so while the engine is basically the same as ours the layout is so different that anything designed for the 350Z would require a completely different design to fit on the Maxima.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong???
Someone correct me if I'm wrong???