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Old May 2, 2003 | 06:31 AM
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anyone have this happen to their Max?

Hey guys,
On the way to work today, I stopped at a light (it was on an incline). I was inserting a CD into the BOSE, and wasn't paying attention fully, and ended up stalling the car when the light turned green...No problem, I just stepped on the clutch, turned the ignition, and got going again. Here's where the weird thing happened...

Basically, the car would buck when I was giving it gas. I got into 3rd gear, and when it hit roughly 2200 rpms, it would buck REALLY badly. I was afraid to give it any more gas, so I don't know what would happen at even higher rpms. I tried shifting through the gears again, thinking that perhaps the shifter wasn't fully in the gate or something, but that didn't help. I drove like this for maybe 20-30 seconds, and then pulled over, and shut the car off. I waited about a minute, turned the car on, and everything was back to normal again.

Any idea what this could've been? Some computer malfunction? I'm pretty sure it had to do with the stall, but I have no idea what it could be exactly.

Thanks
Old May 2, 2003 | 06:45 AM
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Vito,

<joke> This is because the Max uses Microsoft Windows AE (Auto Edition).

In your case, stalling caused an incomplete shutdown of the Windows AE system (a "crash"). Once the car is started, you should immediately perform an orderly shutdown (by turning the car off) to allow all processes to close normally. When you then restart the car, all processes will operate normally again.

This problem has been identified and is scheduled for resolution in a future service pack. Until that point, remember to perform an orderly shutdown after the car crashes. </joke>
Old May 2, 2003 | 06:56 AM
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Originally posted by simpleMax
Vito,

&lt;joke&gt; This is because the Max uses Microsoft Windows AE (Auto Edition).

In your case, stalling caused an incomplete shutdown of the Windows AE system (a &quot;crash&quot. Once the car is started, you should immediately perform an orderly shutdown (by turning the car off) to allow all processes to close normally. When you then restart the car, all processes will operate normally again.

This problem has been identified and is scheduled for resolution in a future service pack. Until that point, remember to perform an orderly shutdown after the car crashes. &lt;/joke&gt;
Old May 2, 2003 | 08:31 AM
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That actually makes sense.
Old May 2, 2003 | 09:09 AM
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Originally posted by simpleMax
Vito,

&lt;joke&gt; This is because the Max uses Microsoft Windows AE (Auto Edition).

In your case, stalling caused an incomplete shutdown of the Windows AE system (a &quot;crash&quot. Once the car is started, you should immediately perform an orderly shutdown (by turning the car off) to allow all processes to close normally. When you then restart the car, all processes will operate normally again.

This problem has been identified and is scheduled for resolution in a future service pack. Until that point, remember to perform an orderly shutdown after the car crashes. &lt;/joke&gt;
Old May 2, 2003 | 09:36 AM
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Ok Ok...Does anyone have a serious response now?
Old May 2, 2003 | 10:16 AM
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car had a blonde moment??
Old May 2, 2003 | 02:24 PM
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I'll bump this since I hijacked the thread with a joke this morning.
Old May 2, 2003 | 02:38 PM
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Originally posted by simpleMax
I'll bump this since I hijacked the thread with a joke this morning.
HAHA...I don't think anyone knows. I'll chalk it up to being a fluke.
Old May 2, 2003 | 06:43 PM
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almost reminds me of an unplugged MAF..or a failing one..or something like that...somethinga bout the 2200 rpm bucking.
Old May 2, 2003 | 06:54 PM
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Originally posted by chinaonnitrous1
almost reminds me of an unplugged MAF..or a failing one..or something like that...somethinga bout the 2200 rpm bucking.
Yeh, I thought about that, but I don't have any mods, and this only happened after I stalled, and it went away after I shut the car off, and restarted.

Could it really have been some computer/sensor fluke?
Old May 2, 2003 | 09:11 PM
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You can start to have MAF problems without any mods.
Old May 2, 2003 | 09:30 PM
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This used to happend to me when I drove the car in 1st gear around 2200 rpms when the engine wasn't warmed up yet. Hasn't happend lately. I know it has something to do with my Injen CAI because it never happened with my Berk intake.
So, this means that my MAF was having problems??

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Old May 3, 2003 | 08:27 AM
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It happened to me.

I only had a few hundred miles on the car and I was still in the break in stage. I ran it up to 5000 rpm just to see what it would do since I really hadn't opened it up. 3.5 power is awesome the first time you feel it. I slowed down and pulled up to a stop light. All seemed fine, but as soon as the light turned green I started having problems. This was my first manual tranny and the car stalled when I tried to take off. I started it back up again but at idle the tach was bouncing. It was bucking really badly and it was difficult to get the car going. I made it to a parking lot out of shear determination. I turned the car off trying to figure out what I did wrong. I couldn't figure it out so I started it back up again. Almost as soon as I got out of the parking lot it started bucking again. I drove maybe 50 feet to a sideroad and parked the car. At idle the tach was popping anywhere from 0 to 1000 rpm. I turned it off and tried to decide whether to call my Father-in-law or a tow truck. After waiting for 5 minutes I gave it another shot. The car started fine and idle was back to normal. I kept expecting it to do it again but I haven't had a problem since.
Old May 3, 2003 | 08:34 AM
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Re: anyone have this happen to their Max?

Originally posted by vito1281
Hey guys,
On the way to work today, I stopped at a light (it was on an incline). I was inserting a CD into the BOSE, and wasn't paying attention fully, and ended up stalling the car when the light turned green...No problem, I just stepped on the clutch, turned the ignition, and got going again. Here's where the weird thing happened...

Basically, the car would buck when I was giving it gas. I got into 3rd gear, and when it hit roughly 2200 rpms, it would buck REALLY badly. I was afraid to give it any more gas, so I don't know what would happen at even higher rpms. I tried shifting through the gears again, thinking that perhaps the shifter wasn't fully in the gate or something, but that didn't help. I drove like this for maybe 20-30 seconds, and then pulled over, and shut the car off. I waited about a minute, turned the car on, and everything was back to normal again.

Any idea what this could've been? Some computer malfunction? I'm pretty sure it had to do with the stall, but I have no idea what it could be exactly.

Thanks
I had something along the same lines happen. Long story short, after some messing around manual shifting the auto (and not paying attention), I apparently annoyed the car and it lost about half of its normal power

Drove home, switched it off, and re-started - problem vanished, and hasn't reappeared in 7k miles... Sunspots...?
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 05:03 PM
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It happened to my automatic 97 SE last night. Stop light on a slight incline. Car starts bucking and nearly stalls. Pulled over, shut off car, made a u-turn to head home and the car ran fine. Ran fine to work this morning too.

My stalling was accompanied by cloud of foul smelling milky exhaust. Anything sketchy with your exhaust?
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 05:27 PM
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Did you pull a CEL?
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by vito1281


HAHA...I don't think anyone knows. I'll chalk it up to being a fluke.
Stop floundering around. It's a bad halibut.

Old Jun 30, 2003 | 06:54 PM
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Originally posted by Ma&gt;&lt;iManiac
Did you pull a CEL?
Care to elaborate for the mechanically challenged?
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by csherm


Care to elaborate for the mechanically challenged?


CEL = Check Engine Light. Doh! I'm alittle slow with the acronyms.

Actually, I did not trip the CEL. Car ran fine a minute afterwards and have had no problems since. It scares me a little however. I may want to check the ECU regardless. Any idea what may be behind this? Posts suggest MAF problems for the stalling, but I can't explain the exhaust. I did lose my heat shield recently, but that should not be a problem.
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 08:40 PM
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Re: anyone have this happen to their Max?

Originally posted by vito1281
Hey guys,
On the way to work today, I stopped at a light (it was on an incline). I was inserting a CD into the BOSE, and wasn't paying attention fully, and ended up stalling the car when the light turned green...No problem, I just stepped on the clutch, turned the ignition, and got going again. Here's where the weird thing happened...

Basically, the car would buck when I was giving it gas. I got into 3rd gear, and when it hit roughly 2200 rpms, it would buck REALLY badly. I was afraid to give it any more gas, so I don't know what would happen at even higher rpms. I tried shifting through the gears again, thinking that perhaps the shifter wasn't fully in the gate or something, but that didn't help. I drove like this for maybe 20-30 seconds, and then pulled over, and shut the car off. I waited about a minute, turned the car on, and everything was back to normal again.

Any idea what this could've been? Some computer malfunction? I'm pretty sure it had to do with the stall, but I have no idea what it could be exactly.

Thanks
Yeah, I've had something similar to this happen...

I've stalled the car 1 or 2 times (must've been those sunspots, cuz I know how to shift!) and when I've re-started the engine and started to drive, the car bucked like mad!

What I did was punch the clutch and soon as I did that, it calmed down back to normal idle...

I always figured that stalling the engine out left some fuel/fuel vapors in the intake or sumptin... and then turning it back on caused the leftover fuel to ignite... JMO though...
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 10:47 PM
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HAHAHaHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YOUR AN AUTO!!!!!!!!!.. wait? so am I
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 10:58 PM
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How much gas did you have in your tank? I fyou were low on fuel your fuel pump might not have been getting a constant flow of fuel, which might have caused your jerking. Just a thought.
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 11:24 PM
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it happened to me in my 2k 5 spd also. just once, but it happened. this was about 15k ago, amd it hasn't happened since. dunno.

Originally posted by 00MaxSE
This used to happend to me when I drove the car in 1st gear around 2200 rpms when the engine wasn't warmed up yet. Hasn't happend lately. I know it has something to do with my Injen CAI because it never happened with my Berk intake.
So, this means that my MAF was having problems??

J.
Old Jul 1, 2003 | 05:25 AM
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Hey i had this happen to me too, I always thought it was because of some bad gas... I think that happens when you get water in the gas mixture sometimes.
Old Jul 1, 2003 | 06:35 AM
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Damn, someone sure dug this one up from the graveyard!

When it happened to me, I'm not sure how much gas was in the tank, but it was definitely not close to empty. This hasn't happened since (although I haven't stalled since), so I think it may be something with the improper "shutdown" of the car's computer, along with its gazillion sensors. As long as it doesn't ever come back, I'm not worried!
Old Jul 1, 2003 | 07:09 AM
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Originally posted by Maximadude00
HAHAHaHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YOUR AN AUTO!!!!!!!!!.. wait? so am I


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