what kind of 1/4 mile and 0-60 differences are there between the two engines in either manual or automatic? how much would a stock 2k2 auto smoke my stock 2k SE auto?

also, are there any exterior differences between a 2kSE and a 2k2/2k3 SE besides the tail/headlights?

 

let's see... there are new colors, a bigger hamburger in the grill, and, oh yeah, and extra .5 liter displacement .

Go to the 1/4 forum and start reading times and you'll get all the performance (straight-line, anyway) answers you need.

 

Probably about 1 second difference in the 1/4... so yea, a buncha car lengths.

 

other exterior differences - different looking wheels, and the 2k2+ come with side skirts.

 

Just get the 3.5 and stop asking questions. My 3.0 auto with virtually every simple bolt on (excluding UDP) including timing advance bested a 15.5 at 89.99mph the 2k2auto has ran as fast as 14.6 stock. But should still easily run 14's, hell people have ran 14's in the 2K2 with 19's on!

 

33HP

 

don't forget HIDs people!

 

Auto vs. Auto: Pretty badly!! The auto 2K-2K1 Max flatout needs forced induction to run with/beat a stock 2K2 auto on the open road or dragstrip.

 

 

oh god...hopefully no one links to those videos of a 00/01 5spd beating a 02 6spd

those were sad videos

Let's not turn this into a civil war between the two 5th gens

 

Gee... let's see... one is a 3.0L v6 with 222HP, the other is a 3.5L v6 with 255HP... mmmm... .5L more displacement... extra 33HP... I wonder what the difference is. Hmmmm.

 

lol.....

 

Yeah but that car was hella modified too, and that 02 got it in some cases.

 

Your auto is just slow. The 2k-2k1 guys seem to have less engine problems and we dont have the dreaded 2k2+ MAF.

 

seriously now... i think the 3.5L engine is made of lighter materials than the 3L, but im not saying its weaker(someone please confirm or set me straight) +plus the 3.5L has this problem plagued Drive By Wire.

go to ebaymotors.com and check out the max's for sale. you will find several diff b/w the 3.0 & 3.5 max's interiors(seats, steering,etc) and exteriors (previously stated by others).

 

TRANSLATION: I wish I had HID's, more stock HP, side sills, nicer seats, more intimidating front valence, sweeter grill, more RESPECT, 6spd (not 5), etc.........

 

Oh comon now...he has an auto not a 5spd. For a auto, compared to some that are runnin 16's its not that slow. Its not fast but ehh whatever. I just didnt feel like getting into the headache of S/C and blowing the tranny. Nor am I in the mood to do a tranny swap and mess with so many small parts. Check your PM's in a few min steve.

 

Some people's kids. What did you drive when you were 19?

 

 

When you said more respect, you remind me of that guy that mumbles alot in the movie Office Space. I think his name is Millerd or something (the guy with the red stapler).

 

the 02/03's have a bigger hamburger on the front grill... the rear emblems are silver and regular font, as opposed to the darker colored italicized font of the 00/01 se's (i personally think the older emblems and taillights look better).... those are the only things that come to mind at the moment...

 

the 02/03's have a bigger hamburger on the front grill... the rear emblems are silver and regular font, as opposed to the darker colored italicized font of the 00/01 se's (i personally think the older emblems and taillights look better).... those are the only things that come to mind at the moment...

 

I drove a 1977 Chevy Malibu... a beast!