car stalling out on me
#1
car stalling out on me
Here's the deal, I have a 2000 5spd maxima with a CAI, Cattman Y-pipe, and an after market B-pipe. Those are the only performance modifications I have done to my car. My problem is.....whenever I'm driving and then I kick it to neutral, 90% of the time the car drops below 500RPM's and sometimes it even just shuts off on me while im coasting. Does anyone have any idea on what my problem could be? Any ideas would be really helpful. Thanks.
#2
Re: car stalling out on me
Originally posted by 2000mAxiMa
Here's the deal, I have a 2000 5spd maxima with a CAI, Cattman Y-pipe, and an after market B-pipe. Those are the only performance modifications I have done to my car. My problem is.....whenever I'm driving and then I kick it to neutral, 90% of the time the car drops below 500RPM's and sometimes it even just shuts off on me while im coasting. Does anyone have any idea on what my problem could be? Any ideas would be really helpful. Thanks.
Here's the deal, I have a 2000 5spd maxima with a CAI, Cattman Y-pipe, and an after market B-pipe. Those are the only performance modifications I have done to my car. My problem is.....whenever I'm driving and then I kick it to neutral, 90% of the time the car drops below 500RPM's and sometimes it even just shuts off on me while im coasting. Does anyone have any idea on what my problem could be? Any ideas would be really helpful. Thanks.
You likely need to have the Fuel Cut TSB done. There are several threads on here about this - even recently. The TSB fixed my problem and they also bumped my idle a bit.
First, you may want to try cleaning your throttle body.
If that doesn't work - take it to the dealer for the TSB. I would reinstall the stock air box, though.
#3
Re: Re: car stalling out on me
Originally posted by Max_Gator
That was exactly the problem I had.
You likely need to have the Fuel Cut TSB done. There are several threads on here about this - even recently. The TSB fixed my problem and they also bumped my idle a bit.
First, you may want to try cleaning your throttle body.
If that doesn't work - take it to the dealer for the TSB. I would reinstall the stock air box, though.
That was exactly the problem I had.
You likely need to have the Fuel Cut TSB done. There are several threads on here about this - even recently. The TSB fixed my problem and they also bumped my idle a bit.
First, you may want to try cleaning your throttle body.
If that doesn't work - take it to the dealer for the TSB. I would reinstall the stock air box, though.
My idling was like (still is) 0.57-0.62K rpm. I told the service manager that my car's idling a bit low, I like to get it pumped up a little. So he was like let we have a look we'll tell you. 20 mins later, he called me in the office and told me that my car needed an ECU update. The check-up fee was $90 and the reprogramming fee was $95. Total was almost $200.
That was for what, less than 20 mins and they charged me $90, bastards.
Anyway, when I got the car back the idling is still the same. I asked the tech to raise it and he said that it cannot be done. Everything is controlled by computer?????
However you just said that they bumped your idle up a bit??? So he wasn't telling me the truth?
#4
Re: Re: Re: car stalling out on me
Originally posted by hcn101
I took my car to the dealer last month for ECU update. I bought the car with 37K miles so I had to pay out of my pocket. Well, I had the same problem. My car used to stall most of the time whenever I came to stops.
My idling was like (still is) 0.57-0.62K rpm. I told the service manager that my car's idling a bit low, I like to get it pumped up a little. So he was like let we have a look we'll tell you. 20 mins later, he called me in the office and told me that my car needed an ECU update. The check-up fee was $90 and the reprogramming fee was $95. Total was almost $200.
That was for what, less than 20 mins and they charged me $90, bastards.
Anyway, when I got the car back the idling is still the same. I asked the tech to raise it and he said that it cannot be done. Everything is controlled by computer?????
However you just said that they bumped your idle up a bit??? So he wasn't telling me the truth?
I took my car to the dealer last month for ECU update. I bought the car with 37K miles so I had to pay out of my pocket. Well, I had the same problem. My car used to stall most of the time whenever I came to stops.
My idling was like (still is) 0.57-0.62K rpm. I told the service manager that my car's idling a bit low, I like to get it pumped up a little. So he was like let we have a look we'll tell you. 20 mins later, he called me in the office and told me that my car needed an ECU update. The check-up fee was $90 and the reprogramming fee was $95. Total was almost $200.
That was for what, less than 20 mins and they charged me $90, bastards.
Anyway, when I got the car back the idling is still the same. I asked the tech to raise it and he said that it cannot be done. Everything is controlled by computer?????
However you just said that they bumped your idle up a bit??? So he wasn't telling me the truth?
Using their Consult II computer they can set and change the idle on the car. (Just like advancing timing).
I would go back and harass them. You paid for them to fix your problem but they didn't do it completely. Now they are telling you they can't fix the idle? What a bunch of crap.
#5
Re: Re: Re: Re: car stalling out on me
Originally posted by Max_Gator
They are morons.
Using their Consult II computer they can set and change the idle on the car. (Just like advancing timing).
I would go back and harass them. You paid for them to fix your problem but they didn't do it completely. Now they are telling you they can't fix the idle? What a bunch of crap.
They are morons.
Using their Consult II computer they can set and change the idle on the car. (Just like advancing timing).
I would go back and harass them. You paid for them to fix your problem but they didn't do it completely. Now they are telling you they can't fix the idle? What a bunch of crap.
BTW do you know what should my idling rpm be? I only know that it's lower than auto's
#7
Originally posted by PCGuRu2K
MAF sounds be to the culprit.. ALso chcek for air leaks around your CAI..
MAF sounds be to the culprit.. ALso chcek for air leaks around your CAI..
I had the same low idle problem associated with my ECU problem and they solved it by bumping my idle a bit after reprogramming the ECU.
That problem was in stark contrast to my MAF failure (years later) which made it nearly impossible to even drive the car.
I agree about the air leaks, though. Leaks between the MAF and the throttle body could cause stalling.
#9
Had the exact same problem on my 2000 5sp. I decided to take the MAF sensor out and spray it down (had a extra MAF just in case) with electrical cleaner and try using it once it dried out. Stalling problem disappeared and has not come back since. Moral of the story, try cleaning TB and MAF before anything else, you might save yourself some money and grief! Good luck!
#11
Stalling Problem On 5 Speed Maxima
I had the same thing happen to me when having problems with the Service Engine Soon light that kept coming on. The car was stalling at highway speeds when letting up on the gas and putting it into neutral. The Nissan Service told me that then idle was low and performed an Idle Relearn Procedure. They charged me $85.
4 days later "Service Engine Soon" lit up again. This time they reprogrammed the whole ECU under TSB NTB00070. Covered under emissions warrenty.
They did that two weeks ago and have not had a problem since...but it was so nerve wracking in case it does stall that I am constantly on guard! Usually I pop the clutch while in gear and it starts back up, but it was so frustrating.
2000 SE 5 Speed
4 days later "Service Engine Soon" lit up again. This time they reprogrammed the whole ECU under TSB NTB00070. Covered under emissions warrenty.
They did that two weeks ago and have not had a problem since...but it was so nerve wracking in case it does stall that I am constantly on guard! Usually I pop the clutch while in gear and it starts back up, but it was so frustrating.
2000 SE 5 Speed
#12
Re: Stalling Problem On 5 Speed Maxima
Originally posted by wally9mm
I had the same thing happen to me when having problems with the Service Engine Soon light that kept coming on. The car was stalling at highway speeds when letting up on the gas and putting it into neutral. The Nissan Service told me that then idle was low and performed an Idle Relearn Procedure. They charged me $85.
4 days later "Service Engine Soon" lit up again. This time they reprogrammed the whole ECU under TSB NTB00070. Covered under emissions warrenty.
They did that two weeks ago and have not had a problem since...but it was so nerve wracking in case it does stall that I am constantly on guard! Usually I pop the clutch while in gear and it starts back up, but it was so frustrating.
2000 SE 5 Speed
I had the same thing happen to me when having problems with the Service Engine Soon light that kept coming on. The car was stalling at highway speeds when letting up on the gas and putting it into neutral. The Nissan Service told me that then idle was low and performed an Idle Relearn Procedure. They charged me $85.
4 days later "Service Engine Soon" lit up again. This time they reprogrammed the whole ECU under TSB NTB00070. Covered under emissions warrenty.
They did that two weeks ago and have not had a problem since...but it was so nerve wracking in case it does stall that I am constantly on guard! Usually I pop the clutch while in gear and it starts back up, but it was so frustrating.
2000 SE 5 Speed
#13
Stalling Problem On 5 Speed Maxima
When I first brought it in for Service the SES Light was not on. When letting up on the gas, the rpm's would drop as low as 200 rpm and quickly recover. I would say that one out of every five times it would completely stall out. The Tech reported a Low idle and reprogrammed it little higher, or so the Service writer told me. It now idles like at around 700-800 rpm, thats about normal.
#15
Originally Posted by irvine78
mine used to stall on me too....i cleaned the throttle body and the stalling problem went away for good.
How do you clean your throttle body? I took off my intake air duct, looked at the throttle itself, everything looked pretty clean - what to clean there, how? Thanks!
#16
Proper idle on my 5spd 2000 (not sure if it's had any ECU reprogramming done) is around 620RPM, consistently (read from OBD-II)
I used to have a problem where, letting the RPMs drop (i.e. revving in neutral, or throwing it in neutral while coasting) would result in the RPMs diving to around 300-400, then quickly recovering to 620. I cleaned the throttle body (and MAF sensor, but that's a different story) and the problem's solved--RPMs drop straight to idle, no lower.
I used to have a problem where, letting the RPMs drop (i.e. revving in neutral, or throwing it in neutral while coasting) would result in the RPMs diving to around 300-400, then quickly recovering to 620. I cleaned the throttle body (and MAF sensor, but that's a different story) and the problem's solved--RPMs drop straight to idle, no lower.
#17
MaScott- Manually open the throttle by turning the pulley at the side of the throttle body. The chamber directly inside the throttle plate tends to get pretty dirty. Plus the very edge of the throttle plate gets dirty... and that's where it counts (the carbon buildup at the edge of the throttle plate effectively reduces the throttle opening)
Clean it with the engine OFF, and don't spray the cleaner in--put it on a rag and wipe that **** thoroughly. Get the top and bottom of the chamber, wipe the throttle plate as best you can.
I use GUNK Air Intake & Throttle Body cleaner.
If you have a 2002+ model with the 3.5L engine, I'm not sure how they work (they use an electronically-controlled throttle, so I dunno how you'd get the throttle open...)
Clean it with the engine OFF, and don't spray the cleaner in--put it on a rag and wipe that **** thoroughly. Get the top and bottom of the chamber, wipe the throttle plate as best you can.
I use GUNK Air Intake & Throttle Body cleaner.
If you have a 2002+ model with the 3.5L engine, I'm not sure how they work (they use an electronically-controlled throttle, so I dunno how you'd get the throttle open...)
#19
Originally Posted by spirilis
MaScott- Manually open the throttle by turning the pulley at the side of the throttle body. The chamber directly inside the throttle plate tends to get pretty dirty. Plus the very edge of the throttle plate gets dirty... and that's where it counts (the carbon buildup at the edge of the throttle plate effectively reduces the throttle opening)
Clean it with the engine OFF, and don't spray the cleaner in--put it on a rag and wipe that **** thoroughly. Get the top and bottom of the chamber, wipe the throttle plate as best you can.
I use GUNK Air Intake & Throttle Body cleaner.
If you have a 2002+ model with the 3.5L engine, I'm not sure how they work (they use an electronically-controlled throttle, so I dunno how you'd get the throttle open...)
Clean it with the engine OFF, and don't spray the cleaner in--put it on a rag and wipe that **** thoroughly. Get the top and bottom of the chamber, wipe the throttle plate as best you can.
I use GUNK Air Intake & Throttle Body cleaner.
If you have a 2002+ model with the 3.5L engine, I'm not sure how they work (they use an electronically-controlled throttle, so I dunno how you'd get the throttle open...)
I will certainly do that *tonight*. Thanks again!
#20
this thread helped me too, i tried to clean the tb last night but did not have a long enough screwdriver or ratchet to get to the bolt in between the battery and air filter box jawn...last one i had to remove before taking the whoel assembly off, damn....going to buy more tools today and try again -- for the MAF, where do i buy the electronics cleaner to clean it? learning quickly, though a mechanic i certainly am not...
#21
RadioShack should have some.
Be VERY VERY VERY careful with that MAF sensor... I did not spray directly onto the MAF, but sprayed just above it (basically drenched the whole plastic housing in the stuff, and watched it run down the MAF wire... it looked a little more shiny when I was done)
Be VERY VERY VERY careful with that MAF sensor... I did not spray directly onto the MAF, but sprayed just above it (basically drenched the whole plastic housing in the stuff, and watched it run down the MAF wire... it looked a little more shiny when I was done)
#23
Don't replaced anything or make a wrong assumption but do get your ECU scan first, then go from there. The last time my car did that, my # 6 coil was the culprit. It's was shot.(dead). So i got fuel but no spark. see what i'm saying....run like sh*t, stalled and cut-out.
#25
Originally Posted by OSoFast
Don't replaced anything or make a wrong assumption but do get your ECU scan first, then go from there. The last time my car did that, my # 6 coil was the culprit. It's was shot.(dead). So i got fuel but no spark. see what i'm saying....run like sh*t, stalled and cut-out.
(it could also be the MAF, but I need more to do some research about it before making conclusions...)
#26
Yes!!!
Just cleaned my Maxima2K's throttle body - you would not believe, I used up 3 whole rugs on it! Took the first test ride, AND IT WORKS NOW!!! :-)
BTW, a self-locking plastic strap (like one they use to hold a bundle of electrical cables together) worked great as a retainer of the throttle pulley.
Thanks to everyone on this thread, especially to spirilis.
P.S. The only cut-off that's still seems to remain is when I turn the hot/warm engine on.
Just cleaned my Maxima2K's throttle body - you would not believe, I used up 3 whole rugs on it! Took the first test ride, AND IT WORKS NOW!!! :-)
BTW, a self-locking plastic strap (like one they use to hold a bundle of electrical cables together) worked great as a retainer of the throttle pulley.
Thanks to everyone on this thread, especially to spirilis.
P.S. The only cut-off that's still seems to remain is when I turn the hot/warm engine on.
#27
Now, not such a good news... It's been some 20+ days, and the car started stalling on me again during driving. I thought I cleaned literally every little corner of that throttle body. What could be wrong now? I doubt TB got dirty over such a short time... Any ideas?
Thanks!
Thanks!
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