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Old 06-09-2003, 05:35 AM
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So I raced a G35 Sedan yesterday....

...but I didn't have my Maxima . I'm coming back from the mall and I'm doing my usual weave in and out of traffic on the semi-local 2 lane road. This guy and his wife (I assume wife because of the age and the fact it was an Infiniti) starts following me.

I crank up my 1993 Mazda MX-6 LS beater car to about 5 grand and start running through the gears as fast as I'm running through the traffic. This guy was right on my a$$ at one point but I had an opening that allowed me to get ahead. I pulled to about 90 MPH in the 40 zone and I guess it was too much for him.

It was cool to watch the way his car handled through the traffic where my POS was bearly staying stable. With 137,000 miles I'm afraid to rev past 5K for fear that my engine will blow out the hood. I was very dissapointed with the way the guy couldn't handle the car. There was no reason why he couldn't have blow me out of the water.

Next time hopefully I'll have my Max so I can show him how to REALLY drive....although hell will freeze over before my Max is parked at the mall
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He wasn't racing you
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Old 06-09-2003, 06:23 AM
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I'm coming back from the mall and I'm doing my usual weave in and out of traffic on the semi-local 2 lane road.
Weaving in and out of traffic? You're just begging for trouble.

Not something to brag about IMHO.

G35 vs MX-6? That's no race!
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Old 06-09-2003, 07:02 AM
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Re: So I raced a G35 Sedan yesterday....

Originally posted by spta97
...I was very dissapointed with the way the guy couldn't handle the car.
He matched you move-for-move, didn't he? Sounds to me like he could handle it as well as you handled yours, just he wasn't willing to go to jail for going 2.25x the speed limit because some punk "challenged" him.
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Old 06-09-2003, 07:44 AM
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Re: Re: So I raced a G35 Sedan yesterday....

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He matched you move-for-move, didn't he? Sounds to me like he could handle it as well as you handled yours, just he wasn't willing to go to jail for going 2.25x the speed limit because some punk "challenged" him.
Actually, he's the one who started. I was driving normal (ahead of him) and he's the one who got all crazy. I was just weaving in an out of traffic at a normal speed (they weren't going fast enough). He didn't match me move for move...that' why he lost.

Oh, the traffic I reffer to was only about 5 cars...they were just all clumped together.
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Old 06-09-2003, 07:50 AM
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Originally posted by MadMax1996


Weaving in and out of traffic? You're just begging for trouble.

Not something to brag about IMHO.

G35 vs MX-6? That's no race!
I have a problem. I can't really turn down a race unless it's unsafe. No matter how old I am it just never stops!

Oh, I'm not bragging...just telling what happened yesterday. I also ripped up the floor in my basement but that is boring and OT

You are right, the G35 should have blow me away no questions asked..however he did not. I was really hoping to see him fly by me at like 120 (which I know the car is capable of) but he didn't. The fact is, sometimes people reach a point in racing where it is too much risk for them. I've bowed down to ricey Civics on the Bronx River Parkway because the risk of an accident was far too much. This race (once we passed the cars) was open road.
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Old 06-09-2003, 08:30 AM
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Originally posted by spta97


I have a problem. I can't really turn down a race unless it's unsafe. No matter how old I am it just never stops!

Oh, I'm not bragging...just telling what happened yesterday. I also ripped up the floor in my basement but that is boring and OT

You are right, the G35 should have blow me away no questions asked..however he did not. I was really hoping to see him fly by me at like 120 (which I know the car is capable of) but he didn't. The fact is, sometimes people reach a point in racing where it is too much risk for them. I've bowed down to ricey Civics on the Bronx River Parkway because the risk of an accident was far too much. This race (once we passed the cars) was open road.
it's all kool....just becareful next time....
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Old 06-09-2003, 08:58 AM
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Originally posted by spta97


I have a problem. I can't really turn down a race unless it's unsafe.
IMHO, your statement is the ultimate in rationalization, as if there was really such a thing as a safe street race. It's like saying, "I don't play Russian roulette unless I'm sure the chamber is empty."
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Old 06-09-2003, 09:14 AM
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hmmm my friend just got a g35 sedan and im wonderin if my 2003 automatic can beat him once he goes through his break in part we gotta race
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Old 06-09-2003, 09:45 AM
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Originally posted by Magellan
IMHO, your statement is the ultimate in rationalization, as if there was really such a thing as a safe street race. It's like saying, "I don't play Russian roulette unless I'm sure the chamber is empty."
I don't play russian roulette unless the chamber is empty.
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Old 06-09-2003, 10:18 AM
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Originally posted by Magellan
IMHO, your statement is the ultimate in rationalization, as if there was really such a thing as a safe street race. It's like saying, "I don't play Russian roulette unless I'm sure the chamber is empty."
I'm not looking for justification, I just race once and a while...always, have always will. My point of the statement is there are different degrees of risk.

For example, if you get into your Max rather than sit on your couch, the chance of you getting into an accident increase dramatically. Does that mean you should never drive? No.

Every day life involves risk. My point about the different races is that some situations (ie: snow, rain, traffic, terrain, speed, etc.) contribute to the risk factor of the race. I make a determination of when it is "safe" or not. By "safe" I guess I mean within my acceptable tolerances of safety. Which by the way seem to get lower as I get older
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Old 06-09-2003, 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by spta97


I'm not looking for justification, I just race once and a while...always, have always will. My point of the statement is there are different degrees of risk.

For example, if you get into your Max rather than sit on your couch, the chance of you getting into an accident increase dramatically. Does that mean you should never drive? No.

Every day life involves risk. My point about the different races is that some situations (ie: snow, rain, traffic, terrain, speed, etc.) contribute to the risk factor of the race. I make a determination of when it is "safe" or not. By "safe" I guess I mean within my acceptable tolerances of safety. Which by the way seem to get lower as I get older
I'm just jealous that your beater is better than mine (90 Subaru Legacy)
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Old 06-09-2003, 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by spta97


I'm not looking for justification, I just race once and a while...always, have always will. My point of the statement is there are different degrees of risk.

For example, if you get into your Max rather than sit on your couch, the chance of you getting into an accident increase dramatically. Does that mean you should never drive? No.

Every day life involves risk. My point about the different races is that some situations (ie: snow, rain, traffic, terrain, speed, etc.) contribute to the risk factor of the race. I make a determination of when it is "safe" or not. By "safe" I guess I mean within my acceptable tolerances of safety. Which by the way seem to get lower as I get older
The problem is that your street race risk, as small as it may be under certain situations, is involuntarily shared by other innocents who may be injured, disabled or killed as a result of your actions. I don't think you have that right. They may not agree to accept your personal tolerances of safety. It's not like you met with everybody within a five-block area ahead of time and explained to them your intentions, then asked them to either agree or leave the area immediately. In the case of children, you would also need parental consent ( "I hereby agree to share in the risk of having my child spend the rest of his/her life in a wheelchair as a result of this race.")

Now I concur that as one gets older, the desire to race dissipates. I used to street race, but as lucky as I was in not killing myself or anyone else, at 66 I don't anymore. I wish the same for you.
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Old 06-09-2003, 12:39 PM
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Most wives frown on that sort of behavior when they are in the car.

90mph in a 40mph zone? That's asking for trouble. Imagine how a tree would affect your car at that speed.

I agree with Magellan.

Just out of curiousity, how old are you anyway?
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Old 06-09-2003, 12:46 PM
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Originally posted by F23A4


I'm just jealous that your beater is better than mine (90 Subaru Legacy)
Well, you've got 4 wheel drive right? I wish I had that. Also, the Mazda is such a chick car (my sister used to own it). My friend refers to is as "The Hair Dresser Car". After that comment I really feel driving it. But it saves my Max from ding & dents so I'll deal!
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Originally posted by Magellan
The problem is that your street race risk, as small as it may be under certain situations, is involuntarily shared by other innocents who may be injured, disabled or killed as a result of your actions. I don't think you have that right. They may not agree to accept your personal tolerances of safety. It's not like you met with everybody within a five-block area ahead of time and explained to them your intentions, then asked them to either agree or leave the area immediately. In the case of children, you would also need parental consent ( "I hereby agree to share in the risk of having my child spend the rest of his/her life in a wheelchair as a result of this race.&quot

Now I concur that as one gets older, the desire to race dissipates. I used to street race, but as lucky as I was in not killing myself or anyone else, at 66 I don't anymore. I wish the same for you.
I would not try to debate you on this as you are absolutely correct. I do not race in such a way to endanger anyone (cutting people off, running up on their bumper, slamming brakes in front of them, etc.) but you are are right - going over the speed limit can endanger people.

Having said that, I really don't see myself chaning. To be honest, I drive better at higher speeds because my reaction time is much quicker. I've actually tried to drive the speed limit and I realize I'm much better at 10 MPH over

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I've been evil in the Coupty... yesterday a guy (on cellphone) in a Navigator was right on my *** coming off the interstate. it was a 35 mph ramp. I never touched my brakes and entered it about 65, again with him still at 65+ about 5 ft off my bumper. Even over my stereo cranking, I heard his tires start to roar and I think he dropped his cellphone as he tried to stay in the road. I was actually impressed he didnt end up in the grass, but it was UGLY. It had to scare the hell out of him.

I merged on into the connecting road and kept a decent pace. He FLEW past me at WOT (to show me I guess), only to find himself staring at stopped traffic and he had to lock it up... God, I had to laugh as I passed him again in the double turn lane. He really slowed down after the second near miss.
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"although hell will freeze over before my Max is parked at the mall"

HAHA...aint that the truth!.



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Old 06-09-2003, 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by Jules Maximus
Most wives frown on that sort of behavior when they are in the car.

90mph in a 40mph zone? That's asking for trouble. Imagine how a tree would affect your car at that speed.

I agree with Magellan.

Just out of curiousity, how old are you anyway?
As stated, 66. And, driving a Maxima, I do get challenged every now and then. I just take out my false teeth and wave it at them.
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Old 06-09-2003, 02:35 PM
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To be honest, I drive better at higher speeds because my reaction time is much quicker.
Actually, all things being equal your reaction time is exactly the same no matter what your speed. If you have to make an emergency stop at 90 vs 40 your reation time isn't going to be any better and it WILL take you much longer to stop than it would from 40.

You may FEEL more confident and in control but things can change quickly on public roads and there are just too many variables to safely race someone.

A few years ago I was rear ended on the freeway while driving to work at 7:00AM. I was travelling 65+ mph and the guy who hit me was doing at least 90mph. He was driving a (then new) Lexus GS400 and he was racing (get this) a Ford Escort. There were no cars near me and we were on a 4 lane freeway and I never changed lanes (I was in the number 2 lane). When he hit me I immediately went into a spin becuase this guy hit my right rear quarter and he went flying off the road into a ravine filled with small-medium sized trees and brush. I was standing on the brakes to try to stop the car (probably wouldn't have mattered much as I was spinning so fast anyway) and over the screaching of my 4 locked wheels I could hear the Lexus tearing through the trees end over end. I was fortunate enough to come to a stop on the side of the road with a front wheel over the embankment. He was trapped in his car upside down at the bottom of the ravine. Emergency crews had to cut him out of the car and get a crane in to remove the car-which was totalled. He had some internal injuries and a couple broken ribs along with lacerations on his head but he was lucky to be alive.

I'm sure if you asked him 10 seconds before he hit me he would have said that he felt in complete control also.

I'm not trying to start an arguement, just providing a little food for thought.

Sorry, Magellan I was wondering how old our speedy friend was, not you.
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