As to your question about the traction control issues, I still believe that my 330i 5-speed manual would have taken out my maxima.<quoted by DMan

How much HP was your SC'd 2k Max putting out? I believe the 330i has less HP than the G & the Max and you stated because of the gearing that your 330 would still beat an SC'd Max? Wouldn't the difference in power make up for the minor difference in the gearing between the two? I don't know, I've never driven an SC'd Max or a 330, even though I've sat in the 330.

I applaud your pick on the 330, like I said it is a really excellent car, my poor @$$ couldn't have walked the extra 5-7 G's it would take to get into one though. Does the V1 or V2 SC from Stillen fit on the G35?

If so, wouldn't that have been a better deal, say to buy the G and take the 5 G's you would've spent (difference in cost between BM & G) SC it and it would really murder the 330i then? What color did you get and what options? Are you planning to Turbo your SC your BM? Sorry about all the questions.

 

I'm just a stupid kid here......... but aren't we splitting hairs?

first off, stop counting tenths. They're useless. Just b.c they're published doesn't mean you should compare them. 6.8 vs 6.5 on the GTP... Give me a break. Any number of reasons could have made the different times. One engine could have been off that day. Conditions might have been different (hotter or colder, stickier surface etc etc).

Next is that none of you folks out there can run picture perfect races. a car that is 2 tenths quicker is not going to beat you if you're a better driver. its been proven a pro in a Hundyai can beat a novice in a Vette.

Performance wise, if a car is close, a half a second is significant a tenth or two is a wash.

and maybe I'm off, but I think the Maxima handles nicely. it isn't my SE-R but what is? though turning radius seems worse than my dad's towncar.

 

Yes, we are splitting hairs here. I guess the only place a tenth of sec matters is on the racetrack and as you said many things can influence performance or lack thereof one way or the other.

I also agree that the Max's turning radius does suck really bad. I think we all just would like to believe that our car wouldn't lose to certain cars we consider of lesser value or whatever.

The Max has it flaws but then again what car doesn't, I think if anyone here really wants to be able to boast about what his or her car can do we need to recognize that it is not built to be a race car. Go buy a Z06 and then you can talk some sh*t about how fast your car is.

Our cars aren't fast, they are quick, now a Lingenfelter TT Corvette, that's fast, better yet, that's sick.

 

Well I read this whole thread...can I have my 5 mins back?

 

My supercharged maxima dynoed approx. 250 FWHP and 235 FW lb-ft Torque which is more than what my bimmer dynoes. My stock 330i probably puts 195-200 RWHP to the ground and 190-195 RW lb-ft of torque based on dynoes that guys on the bimmer board have done. But I ask you this question- Why does the 330i beat many cars with 40-60 hp advantage? ? So many factors go into 0-60 and 1/4 mile times like gearing, FWD vs. RWD, drive train loss, driver skill, etc.

I do plan on adding a performance chip, intake, and a 3.15 rear end differential(which will put 7.5% more torque to the rear wheels) but no SCer or Turbo. Why you might be asking and my response is RELIABILITY!!! The SCer was fun but I was always having to do something to my car and had to have it towed twice to my shop due to problems with the SCer.

Here is the run down on my 330i:
Titanium Silver with black interior and brushed aluminum trim
Sport Pkg. with M series rims and aerodynamic pkg.
Moonroof
BiXenon headlights
Illuminated M shift ****
M aluminum sport pedals
Lumikos foglights

 

Please dont flame because I am a maxima guy and just got a 2003 6-SPD. But has any of you guys checked out the 2004 Forester 2.5XT? its a 2.5L 4banger Turbo. Not sure about the auto but the manual wasnt bad.

 

 

oh man! I only wish you had been through with what I have been through with all of the american cars in my family! I am not even going to bother typing all the stuff, it should be so obvious.

If the quality was not an issue I wouldve gotten a GTP (much cheaper), a Mustang GT + etc etc.

The last american vehicle I used for a good extent of a time (Work related) was a Pontiac Montana Minivan (in its third year of production) and I have never driven such a piece of **** before or since.

 

I agree- since when is plastic cladding Exellent styling? U forgot to mention that GTP's are also heavy and are average performers unless modded

 

this is what I think of speed ribs

 

At one point and time, I looked at a GTP. I liked the lines of the car but, like slag said, the interior left a lot to be desired. I also looked at a '93 Taurus SHO.

However, I chose the Maxima not because of performance times or lateral acceleration. I chose it because of comfort and reliability. The performance is a bonus.

 

Back to the BMW thing...I won't lie. If I had the money, I would buy the 330 over the max. Yes, the HP rating isn't as good. BUT, you really can't compare the quality of the craftsmanship that goes into a BMW vs a Maxima. Before I bought the max in 4/2002 I was looking seriously at the BMW, but I just couldn't afford it. I decided that for right now (I'm 24), I should get the max for the price break and then one day when I'm well established, I will buy a BMW. None of that is to say that I haven't been happy with my Maxima, because I have. I love it. But if money was no object, I would take the BMW hands down. Would I buy one used? Hell no. Only with a warranty.

 

Yeah, I was in the same exact position as you Maximaniac. The money thing came up when I was looking at a 330i. I totally agree with the quality and craftsmanship a BMW 330i has over a Maxima. When I test drove the 330i(w/sport package) the car just felt so solid and so well built, and the tranny matched up the engine so beautifully. I also love my Maxima but it really could never be compared to a 330i.

 

True! But my taste buds needed a 330xi -way too much-2nd option was a used 2k1 A6 2.7 T but the interior leather was dogged-and also too much money- need allwheel drive- but for now my 6 speed spanks plenty! Someday we will all be rollin in a German not caring about mods anymore-but lookin good!