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Old 01-29-2001 | 06:22 PM
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I don't know too much about this stuff, so I'll ask you guys. Is it necessary to change the struts and shocks when adding these springs? Or can I just use them with the factory shocks? Also, how is the ride quality going to be?Any advice and information would be greatly appreciated.
Old 01-29-2001 | 07:15 PM
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You don't have to change the struts, but it's recommended. I drove on the factory struts for a long time and had no problems. The ride quality will get bad (very bumpy and harsh), but I personally don't mind it at all.

When you get them, make sure you have the installer cut your bump stops. The instructions should tell you, but I want to give you a heads up first.
Old 01-29-2001 | 07:43 PM
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Will do..Thanks for the info Kev.
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Old 01-29-2001 | 08:00 PM
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Coilovers greg. go for tha 3" drop on the dubs.
Old 01-29-2001 | 08:04 PM
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Originally posted by 00DubbedMax
I don't know too much about this stuff, so I'll ask you guys. Is it necessary to change the struts and shocks when adding these springs? Or can I just use them with the factory shocks? Also, how is the ride quality going to be?Any advice and information would be greatly appreciated.
Ummm...I cannot comment on the Tokicos since I have been on the factory struts since installing my Eibachs. So far as I am concerned they work fine. The ride is definitely alot stiffer, but thats part and parcel of the deal, and to be honest I prefer the ride cause it "just feels right" to me. I thought "Hell I have the SE sport suspension. How much better can the mods be?" ALOT. Just be aware that that it is a markedly stiffer ride. Maybe look into the H&R's if that concerns you. Oh BTW, the car looks MUCH better lowered with the Eibachs. That alone is almost reason enough to do it.

Y2KevSE - I was actually just minutes ago thinking about emailing you with this question but I'll just put it here since it ties in so nicely. How do you find the Tokicos compared to the stock struts with the Eibachs? I have all the other suspension mods you have listed and was just wondering if you really felt the Tokicos are necessary/worth it. Thanks for the info.
Old 01-29-2001 | 08:17 PM
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Originally posted by Albertan
Y2KevSE - I was actually just minutes ago thinking about emailing you with this question but I'll just put it here since it ties in so nicely. How do you find the Tokicos compared to the stock struts with the Eibachs? I have all the other suspension mods you have listed and was just wondering if you really felt the Tokicos are necessary/worth it. Thanks for the info.
The Tokico Blue's definitely softened up the ride a bit. It's not as bumpy as before, but still bumpy enough for you to go to the restroom if you drank a lot of water. I'd say they are worth it, but I haven't felt the Koni's yet so I can't say which set I should've bought. Changing the struts aren't necessary, IMHO, because I felt I could've driven longer with the stockers, but they'll definitely help the ride quality.
Old 01-29-2001 | 08:21 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE
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Y2KevSE - I was actually just minutes ago thinking about emailing you with this question but I'll just put it here since it ties in so nicely. How do you find the Tokicos compared to the stock struts with the Eibachs? I have all the other suspension mods you have listed and was just wondering if you really felt the Tokicos are necessary/worth it. Thanks for the info.
The Tokico Blue's definitely softened up the ride a bit. It's not as bumpy as before, but still bumpy enough for you to go to the restroom if you drank a lot of water. I'd say they are worth it, but I haven't felt the Koni's yet so I can't say which set I should've bought. Changing the struts aren't necessary, IMHO, because I felt I could've driven longer with the stockers, but they'll definitely help the ride quality.
Wow! That's a quick reply. Thanks for your feedback. Where did you get the Tokicos and what did they cost. I am a bit out of the loop around here now. Basically thoough I kinda like the ride as I mentioned with the stockers and see no point in firing a bunch of perfectly good struts with 2500 miles on them onto the spare parts shelf in the garage. But hey a mods a mod...
Old 01-29-2001 | 08:56 PM
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Y2KevSE - I was actually just minutes ago thinking about emailing you with this question but I'll just put it here since it ties in so nicely. How do you find the Tokicos compared to the stock struts with the Eibachs? I have all the other suspension mods you have listed and was just wondering if you really felt the Tokicos are necessary/worth it. Thanks for the info.
The Tokico Blue's definitely softened up the ride a bit. It's not as bumpy as before, but still bumpy enough for you to go to the restroom if you drank a lot of water. I'd say they are worth it, but I haven't felt the Koni's yet so I can't say which set I should've bought. Changing the struts aren't necessary, IMHO, because I felt I could've driven longer with the stockers, but they'll definitely help the ride quality.
Wow! That's a quick reply. Thanks for your feedback. Where did you get the Tokicos and what did they cost. I am a bit out of the loop around here now. Basically thoough I kinda like the ride as I mentioned with the stockers and see no point in firing a bunch of perfectly good struts with 2500 miles on them onto the spare parts shelf in the garage. But hey a mods a mod...
Old 01-29-2001 | 11:45 PM
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There's a thread in here (pretty recent) listing the prices of the Tokico's... try searching for it.
Old 01-29-2001 | 11:58 PM
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your springs and struts the same time. you will save on the Labor. You WILL want to replace the stock struts after a while with the Eibachs. The stocks struts can't handle the stiffer spring rates, so after a while your ride will get worse. do it now if you have the $$$$. I paid $280.00 for tokicos from stillin. Not bad.
Old 01-30-2001 | 07:36 AM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE
When you get them, make sure you have the installer cut your bump stops. The instructions should tell you, but I want to give you a heads up first.
Pardon my ignorance Grand Master, what are bump stops?
Old 01-30-2001 | 07:42 AM
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Originally posted by punkdork
Originally posted by Y2KevSE
When you get them, make sure you have the installer cut your bump stops. The instructions should tell you, but I want to give you a heads up first.
Pardon my ignorance Grand Master, what are bump stops?

Ground control coil over kit $399.00
Eibach $219.00
H&R $239.00
Koni doesn't make them for the 2000 model
Tokico's are $324.00
set of 4

There ya go
Old 01-30-2001 | 07:45 AM
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Originally posted by punkdork
Originally posted by Y2KevSE
When you get them, make sure you have the installer cut your bump stops. The instructions should tell you, but I want to give you a heads up first.
Pardon my ignorance Grand Master, what are bump stops?

Ground control coil over kit $399.00
Eibach $219.00
H&R $239.00
Koni doesn't make them for the 2000 model
Tokico's are $324.00
set of 4

There ya go
Thats no description of a bump stomp YJ. Go to school and do something usefull!
Old 01-30-2001 | 07:46 AM
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yea i need to get to school.
gotta wait for my friend to get ready so i can take his ugly *** to school too
Old 01-30-2001 | 08:50 AM
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Originally posted by punkdork
Pardon my ignorance Grand Master, what are bump stops?
Are you mocking me? I know you're mocking me! Bad punkdork!!! punkdork . . . . . . . .

They are hard foam/rubber pieces that go in your strut boots to keep your car from bottoming out (the bump stops for your rear struts are attached to the boot so you'll have to cut your boots). You cut them so it'll give you more suspension travel. If you lower your car and not cut the pieces (giving you less distance for your struts to compress), you're not utilizing the full potential of your springs.

That's my crash course, hope that helps.
Old 01-30-2001 | 10:04 AM
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Pardon my ignorance Grand Master, what are bump stops?
Are you mocking me? I know you're mocking me! Bad punkdork!!! punkdork . . . . . . . .

They are hard foam/rubber pieces that go in your strut boots to keep your car from bottoming out (the bump stops for your rear struts are attached to the boot so you'll have to cut your boots). You cut them so it'll give you more suspension travel. If you lower your car and not cut the pieces (giving you less distance for your struts to compress), you're not utilizing the full potential of your springs.

That's my crash course, hope that helps.
So will that void the warranty any more than putting on the lowering springs?
Old 01-30-2001 | 11:20 AM
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So will that void the warranty any more than putting on the lowering springs?
The only way they can tell if you've modified the bump stops is to pull out your front strut assemblies. For the rears, buy new boots if you REALLY need them.

The springs would only void the struts warranty if the dealer is really **** about aftermarket stuff.
Old 01-30-2001 | 11:58 AM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE

The only way they can tell if you've modified the bump stops is to pull out your front strut assemblies. For the rears, buy new boots if you REALLY need them.

The springs would only void the struts warranty if the dealer is really **** about aftermarket stuff.
Cool... the name bump stop makes it sound important... like I'll get a low rider truck kind of ride if I have em cut. Heh... you wanna help me put in some hydraulics and loads of gold trim?
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