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Old Jul 3, 2003 | 11:36 AM
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3.5 into a 2000 engine bay?

It should fit right in shouldn't it? I would rather just get an '02 right now, but since the value of my car dropped over $2k in 3 months, I'm now upside down on my loan. Not a whole lot of dealers want to work with that, and also, it's not very likely that a dealer will have a 6 speed on the lot.

does anyone think or know if it'll work? And does anyone know what the price of a 3.5 motor itself would cost?
it's just a consideration at this point. If it doesn't work, I'll just wait it out and get an '02-'03 when I get the loan lower.
Old Jul 3, 2003 | 11:40 AM
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Re: 3.5 into a 2000 engine bay?

Originally posted by ryand.white
It should fit right in shouldn't it? I would rather just get an '02 right now, but since the value of my car dropped over $2k in 3 months, I'm now upside down on my loan. Not a whole lot of dealers want to work with that, and also, it's not very likely that a dealer will have a 6 speed on the lot.

does anyone think or know if it'll work? And does anyone know what the price of a 3.5 motor itself would cost?
it's just a consideration at this point. If it doesn't work, I'll just wait it out and get an '02-'03 when I get the loan lower.
Plan on a new tranny and new ECU while you are at it.
Old Jul 3, 2003 | 11:43 AM
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2k upsidedown is not a problem.
Old Jul 3, 2003 | 11:45 AM
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How is it not a problem? Do you have any ideas that will help?
Old Jul 3, 2003 | 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by Maximam
2k upsidedown is not a problem.

Yep, unlike others around here.
Old Jul 3, 2003 | 11:56 AM
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I love my 3.5, but if I was in your boat, I would drop the cash on a supercharger or a turbo. It might be cheaper than the swap in the long run.
Old Jul 3, 2003 | 12:01 PM
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Naw man, you need a V8. My buddy put one in his 2000 SE and it is REALLY fast.
Old Jul 3, 2003 | 12:07 PM
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It wont work...

Originally posted by ryand.white
How is it not a problem? Do you have any ideas that will help?
As you might imagine, we 2k/2k1 owners were very disappointed to find out that the 2k2 + engines would be bigger. So... we've covered this whole engine swap scenario a few times. The cars look the same but they are actually quite different. The ECUs are different, the trannys are different and of course the engines are different. So simply put, by the time you swap the engine, rewire the entire car because of the different electronics, swap out the 5spd for the 6spd tranny, you'd be so fed-up and so broke, it would all turn out to be a disappointment.... all that for about 30hp?!?!?
Do what I did... get a supercharger or a turbo and you'll have much more power than any 2k2 +. Aftermarket developers have been staying away from the 3.5 engines because there is not room in the 2k2 + Maxima engine bay to accomodate a SC or turbo.... I hear its been tried but there have been major fitment issues. This is not to say some kind of boosted kit will not still come out but after the 2k/2k1 maximas were out this long there was a SC kit waiting!
Dont bother yourself with this project...not worth it. If you really want a 2k2 +, take the hit and trade up or get a turbo or sc for your 2k. Good luck...

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Old Jul 3, 2003 | 12:09 PM
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Naw man, you need a V8. My buddy put one in his 2000 SE and it is REALLY fast.



ryand.white:

You can easily absorb 2k in the new loan. '03 Max, MSRP 27k, buy it for 23k through in the 2k and you have your new '03 for 25k.
Old Jul 3, 2003 | 12:32 PM
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How is it not a problem? Do you have any ideas that will help?
Well figure that a new motor and associated parts (tranny, ecu, etc) is gonna run you at least 6k. Why not just eat the 2k on your car and find a used 6 speed? You'd be getting a car that was built with a 3.5 from the get go and avoid all of the hassles and roadblocks associated with a engine transplant. Plus if you transplanted the engine your still left with a 2k and probably one thats worth even less if you left it alone.
Old Jul 3, 2003 | 12:50 PM
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Were you being sarcastic Andy, because a buddy of mine is actually planning a V8 swap for his maxima...
Old Jul 3, 2003 | 01:22 PM
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Were you being sarcastic Andy, because a buddy of mine is actually planning a V8 swap for his maxima...
I don't think that Nissan has a V8 that can be transversly mounted so he's probably pulling your leg.
Old Jul 3, 2003 | 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KSESteve
Were you being sarcastic Andy, because a buddy of mine is actually planning a V8 swap for his maxima...
Yes, I was being sarcastic....and there is no way this will ever happen.
Old Jul 3, 2003 | 01:56 PM
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Re: Re: 3.5 into a 2000 engine bay?

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Plan on a new tranny and new ECU while you are at it.
and axles and whatever other little BS parts you'll need. Just go turbo!
Old Jul 3, 2003 | 02:04 PM
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Originally posted by swallac2


I don't think that Nissan has a V8 that can be transversly mounted so he's probably pulling your leg.
He doesn't plan on using a Nissan V8 and he already has everything all measured out so it will fit.
Old Jul 3, 2003 | 02:22 PM
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Re: Re: Re: 3.5 into a 2000 engine bay?

Originally posted by 92 SE-R 02 SE


and axles and whatever other little BS parts you'll need. Just go turbo!
Since I cant find a 3.5 6spd near me....

Old Jul 3, 2003 | 02:30 PM
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Since I cant find a 3.5 6spd near me....

I have yet to see any 6spds in the paper in my area either! I think used 02-03 6spds are going to be very hard to find. Sorry bro!
Old Jul 3, 2003 | 02:31 PM
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Yes, I was being sarcastic....and there is no way this will ever happen.
I saw a guy in Cali, that put a V8 427cubic inch in some Ford Aspire, the engine was mounted in the back, the car was doing 0-60 in 3 seconds, so if someone was able to do so anything is possible, it all come to how much money you want to spend and how much can you suffer with custom fitting.

P.S: Just look at monster garage and you'll see that anything is possible.

Cheers

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Old Jul 3, 2003 | 04:36 PM
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Where is the best place to buy a turbo from? Where also is there a
reliable place to have the work done?
After the price of the kit, how much for install? Just trying to figure
out if I should suck it up and get the '02 6 spd I found.
Old Jul 3, 2003 | 04:40 PM
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Get the 6 speed. Having a car that is quick without mods is better than the potential problems associated with a turbo.
Old Jul 3, 2003 | 04:42 PM
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That's what I was thinking. I don't want to run into future turbo
problems that will cost even more.
thanks
Old Jul 3, 2003 | 04:43 PM
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STEVE, I TOLD YOU NOT TO F**KING TELL ANYONE ABOUT THE ENGINE SWAP, GOD DAMNIT!

Just playin, it ain't me, haha, I have enough trouble not getting speeding tickets with the 3.0L, imagine a V8! hahahaha (evil laugh)
Old Jul 3, 2003 | 05:55 PM
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Originally posted by ryand.white
Where is the best place to buy a turbo from?
Old Jul 3, 2003 | 06:07 PM
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Old Jul 3, 2003 | 10:35 PM
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Nah man...

Originally posted by asu174
Get the 6 speed. Having a car that is quick without mods is better than the potential problems associated with a turbo.

Dont believe the hype man....I've had no trouble w/my turbo kit. But I dont want to turn this into a 2k/2k1 vs. 2k2 + battle. Just know that if you get a 2k2 + and you evetually feel like you want more power (which you will) you're gonna be stuck until someone someday figures out how to boost that 3.5 engine in a Maxima and not a 350z!!!
Old Jul 3, 2003 | 10:49 PM
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Re: Nah man...

Originally posted by Deac



Dont believe the hype man....I've had no trouble w/my turbo kit. But I dont want to turn this into a 2k/2k1 vs. 2k2 + battle. Just know that if you get a 2k2 + and you evetually feel like you want more power (which you will) you're gonna be stuck until someone someday figures out how to boost that 3.5 engine in a Maxima and not a 350z!!!
hey deac is youre turbo from turbomaxima.com?? i am considering boosting but i dont know how reliable and well these turbos work with low boost???
Old Jul 3, 2003 | 10:51 PM
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Re: Nah man...

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Dont believe the hype man....I've had no trouble w/my turbo kit. But I dont want to turn this into a 2k/2k1 vs. 2k2 + battle. Just know that if you get a 2k2 + and you evetually feel like you want more power (which you will) you're gonna be stuck until someone someday figures out how to boost that 3.5 engine in a Maxima and not a 350z!!!
Yeah, but for someone like me (and the probably the guy that started this thread), who isn't mechanically inclined enough to tune a boosted engine, the "problems" will be incessant. Imagine having to take your car to a mechanic EVERY time something goes wrong with the kit because you don't have the ability or knowledge to fix it yourself. For someone mechanically savvy (like you), it is probably a piece of cake.
Old Jul 3, 2003 | 10:56 PM
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Maybe BigDogJonX will build you guys one.........



I am actually thinking about buying a wrecked 4th gen and building a transmission tunnel to the rear and dropping in a 340ci Mopar bolted to the T56, and probably use a 9-1/4 solid rear axle, or maybe try and get a Z rear end? The only reason is it wont have an engine or tranny, so why not????

Y2KSESteve, please tell me its not a Ford V8..... please...... I know they have the smallest overall package, but thats just wrong. I assume your keeping it transverly mounted, so that is going to make it hard for any true American V8 to fit...... hmmmmmmm
Old Jul 3, 2003 | 11:01 PM
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Wouldn't a Caddy V-8 fit? They already have a front wheel drive V-8
Old Jul 4, 2003 | 01:06 AM
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I've done that - 3.5L in 2000
Old Jul 4, 2003 | 01:25 AM
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Really? Pics? Soundclips?
Old Jul 4, 2003 | 04:44 PM
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I've got a stupid question for Deac...how much $$$ (only for parts, not labor) did the turbo set you back?
Old Jul 6, 2003 | 06:49 PM
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I've got a stupid question for Deac...how much $$$ (only for parts, not labor) did the turbo set you back?
I belive you could PM him for that info. Just to give you an idea its over $5K
Old Jul 6, 2003 | 11:26 PM
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So....
How do i insert pix here...
Old Jul 6, 2003 | 11:46 PM
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Upload it to a webpage and link it here or you can email them to me and I'll host them for you.
Old Jul 7, 2003 | 07:25 AM
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Originally posted by maxS
I've done that - 3.5L in 2000
If you have, how much did that set you back and why did you not just get a 2k2-2k3?
Old Jul 7, 2003 | 07:37 AM
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As an 02 owner I would say just get an 02.
As someone who has looked into mods for previous cars (SE-R) I would say its not worth it. Although I'm having trouble selling ym old car. I would say the hassle and cost involved in modifying a car is not worth the gains. a 3.5 from a 3.0 is going to be a huge amount of work and the gain, however nice, is not worth the time. a turbo is more power, but also a large undertaking. If you have a reason you want to do it,go for it.

Stock is a big deal to me. If you want a faster car, go buy one. trying to "create", however original is not the same thing.
Old Jul 7, 2003 | 11:41 AM
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yep

Originally posted by HitManSE


I belive you could PM him for that info. Just to give you an idea its over $5K

yeah 5k is about ballpark for part and labor for anyone who goes turbo.... and I have'nt had any major problem to take it to a mechanic for anyway! The turbo is working out great!
Also whos to say that after a 3.5 engine swap, you wont run into just as many, if not more little nagging problems that you would have to take to a mechanic?!? I'd say that after a major job like that, you should expect ALOT of problems and would need to be mechanically inclined yourself so as not to incur so many repair/labor bills...


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