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Old Feb 2, 2001 | 03:29 PM
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How do you guys race against other cars?

I mean, all I do is just floor it and leave the rest to the car. Is there like something that you should do, example, like switching to D2 or D1.

Oh i meant to ask, has anyone here raced with one of those new eclipse? How did you guys do?
Who is faster: eclipse on stick or max with an auto?

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Old Feb 2, 2001 | 05:40 PM
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Put the car in D1 and click the OD button on the side so that the yellow OD lights comes on near your speedometer. Floor it, then shift into D2, then shift into D. Leave OD off the entire time, meaning the yellow OD light is lit near the speedometer.

Don't hit the rev limiter, which is somewhere > 5500 RPM, I think. Shift somewhere around that RPM range.
Old Feb 2, 2001 | 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by mdeal
Put the car in D1 and click the OD button on the side so that the yellow OD lights comes on near your speedometer. Floor it, then shift into D2, then shift into D. Leave OD off the entire time, meaning the yellow OD light is lit near the speedometer.

Don't hit the rev limiter, which is somewhere > 5500 RPM, I think. Shift somewhere around that RPM range.
6500 rpms is the limiter. I dont really race, but I dont shift into D1 when I do. I just click off the overdrive.
Old Feb 2, 2001 | 06:13 PM
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You can either shift your auto manually or just leave it in Drive and turn off OD. If you shift manually, ve sure to shift from 1 to 2 and 2 to 3 at around 6100 rpm. That way, the tranny will shift just before redline. Too late, and you will hit the rev limiter. Also, you may want to brake torque to get a good launch.
Old Feb 2, 2001 | 06:29 PM
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One mod... vb.

I haven't manually shifted my car while G-teching it. I let it shift on it's own.
Old Feb 2, 2001 | 07:01 PM
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If you manually shift an automatic, it gives the competitor the impression you have a stick. If nothing else, when you line up, move your right arm back and forth (from 1st to neutral, from neutral to 1st, from 1st to neutral, etc) as if you are ensuring the manual transmission is certaining in gear, but you are actually just "air guitaring" it.
Old Feb 3, 2001 | 06:20 AM
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The whole reason behind shifting your auto manually is to get as close to redline as possible. The engine makes it's peak hp at redline and you want to reach that point. Letting the auto shift on its own will not let you get the full power out of the engine. It shifts way too early.
Old Feb 3, 2001 | 11:02 AM
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CORRECT!

Originally posted by UMD_MaxSE
The whole reason behind shifting your auto manually is to get as close to redline as possible. The engine makes it's peak hp at redline and you want to reach that point. Letting the auto shift on its own will not let you get the full power out of the engine. It shifts way too early.

Which also allows you to be the better end of the rpm range in the next gear, as to not fall on your face when you shift.

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Old Feb 3, 2001 | 08:44 PM
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Engines don't make peak HP at redline

By the time an engine has hit redline it is getting "out of breath" and past its HP peak. You take an engine a bit past its peak so that when you change gears, and the RPMs drop, the engine is close to its peak and can pull hard.
Old Feb 4, 2001 | 06:19 AM
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Re: Engines don't make peak HP at redline

Originally posted by brubenstein
By the time an engine has hit redline it is getting "out of breath" and past its HP peak. You take an engine a bit past its peak so that when you change gears, and the RPMs drop, the engine is close to its peak and can pull hard.
The VQ engine makes peak hp at or very close to redline. It is rated at 222 hp at 6400 rpm. 6400 is pretty close to redline
Old Feb 4, 2001 | 08:53 AM
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Re: Engines don't make peak HP at redline

Originally posted by brubenstein
By the time an engine has hit redline it is getting "out of breath" and past its HP peak. You take an engine a bit past its peak so that when you change gears, and the RPMs drop, the engine is close to its peak and can pull hard.
True to a point. As far as our discussion goes, there is so much of a gap betwen gears in our 4 speed automatics it is hard to do anything to get into the sweet spot in the next gear. The rpm in which is perferable to shift at in a manual car varies from car to car depending on what the gear ratios are. It is all math and nothing more.

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Old Feb 4, 2001 | 12:15 PM
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If you manually shift it also builds up the pressure in the transmission or vb i think. Whenm i went to the track i would hit it in to d2 at about 6400 rpm. That way it doesnt shift mushy because the pressure is built up in the tranny and it slams into 2nd.. IT really works. Shift right before redline or even bounce it off the limiter once and you will slam into the next gear.

Adam
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