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Old Jul 13, 2003 | 07:32 PM
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Terribly warped rotors.

My rotors are caput, dead, warped. It's bad, annoying, and embarrassing when i have passengers. Where is the best place to get the stillen brake kit for our car? I think they're brembo brakes, but not sure. Looking for that set and stainless steel brake lines.
Also, i'd like to get the 300Z calipers if i can get them cheap, for when i put 18s on the car.

Thanx a lot.
Old Jul 13, 2003 | 08:06 PM
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There seems to be 3 options. Brembo Blanks, Stillen X-Drilled from www.southwestautoworks.com or powerslot rotors from www.custommaxima.com. I am leaning more to the Powerslot myself although I do like the look of the X-drilled better.
Old Jul 13, 2003 | 11:47 PM
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Im 99% sure that brembo blanks are not available for 02-03s.. I just ordered some powerslot rotors for my parents 2k2 from www.ptuning.com . They are sceduled for delivery tomorrow, so I'll post some first impressions soon.
Old Jul 13, 2003 | 11:53 PM
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Originally posted by ch13f
Im 99% sure that brembo blanks are not available for 02-03s.. I just ordered some powerslot rotors for my parents 2k2 from www.ptuning.com . They are sceduled for delivery tomorrow, so I'll post some first impressions soon.
Why slotted ? X drilled makes more sense unless your parents are auto-crossing ....
Old Jul 14, 2003 | 12:29 AM
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As long as they dont look something like this then you should be alright.
NICE!!!

...and heres 1 more


As for what rotors to get, if your gonna stick to the street get the CD but if you plan to go autocross then get slotted. CD'd look better though.
Old Jul 14, 2003 | 12:44 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by HitManSE
[B]As long as they dont look something like this then you should be alright.

.what those come off of ?
Old Jul 14, 2003 | 12:54 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by kloogy
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As long as they dont look something like this then you should be alright.

.what those come off of ?
I get pics and save the WORST that ive seen, I still have that rotor in a display case at work in the office, hell I have a honda motor with baseball sized holes on the block in the office

That came of of an early 90's lebaron SHE doesnt take car of the car for ****, shes was like 35,000 over her oil change too Im like did you not HEAR anything from the brakes for like the last 6 months??

Heres another

and 1 more

I guess some people really dont give much of a damn about their cars.
Old Jul 14, 2003 | 06:46 AM
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Why do you guys recommend the crossdrilled rotors over the slotted ones?
HitmanSE, u recommend to get CD if for street use, and slotted for autox right? So, that means slotted are stronger, and they are much cheaper. So why do you recommend crossdrilled?

Thanx for the input. Trying to make the smart decision here.
Old Jul 14, 2003 | 07:48 AM
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Why slotted ? X drilled makes more sense unless your parents are auto-crossing ....
I have heard that cross drilled can be weaker. I have also heard some complaints here about the Stillen ones warping. How has your experience with the stillen ones been.


BTW, Brembe blanks are on Nopi and I think the part number is different than the 00-01.
Old Jul 14, 2003 | 08:41 AM
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I have heard that cross drilled can be weaker. I have also heard some complaints here about the Stillen ones warping. How has your experience with the stillen ones been.


BTW, Brembe blanks are on Nopi and I think the part number is different than the 00-01.
That's what i was told too. I was told that the crossdrilled rotors are weaker brakes, and tougher to cut as well due to the holes.

Any explanantion on the recommendations people?

Thanx
Old Jul 14, 2003 | 09:13 AM
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I get pics and save the WORST that ive seen, I still have that rotor in a display case at work in the office, hell I have a honda motor with baseball sized holes on the block in the office

That came of of an early 90's lebaron SHE doesnt take car of the car for ****, shes was like 35,000 over her oil change too Im like did you not HEAR anything from the brakes for like the last 6 months??

Heres another

and 1 more

I guess some people really dont give much of a damn about their cars.
Good god, I was trying to figure out what the hell I was looking at... at first I figured they were slotted rotors with some strange slots, then I realized they were worn down to the vent area
THAT'S ****ing amazing though. Almost as bad as my mom's Ford Tempo with the seized caliper... had 2 deep grooves in the rotors from the brake pad rivets. The rivets themselves were almost worn off too. I drove this car for several months in that condition (to/fro college, didn't have my own ride) until I concluded I'll need to buy new rotors as well as new pads
Old Jul 14, 2003 | 09:49 AM
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I have heard that cross drilled can be weaker. I have also heard some complaints here about the Stillen ones warping. How has your experience with the stillen ones been.
Cross drilling removes too much integrity IMO. No one that I know that has ever tried em noticed significant improvement. Slotted seems to work better. Not sure which eats pad more though. I imagine slotted would, but Get some lifetime warranty pads and solve that problem.
Old Jul 14, 2003 | 10:08 AM
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Several people have said the cross drilled rotors have craked on them . When the question was posed about why higher end cars use them it was stated that the real cross drilled are not drilled at all. They are actually forged with the holes in them already providing a stronger rotor. Apparently the drilling of the rotors weakens them.

I would stick with the slotted...that's what I'm getting when I need rotors.
Old Jul 14, 2003 | 10:31 AM
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Cross drilling removes too much integrity IMO. No one that I know that has ever tried em noticed significant improvement. Slotted seems to work better. Not sure which eats pad more though. I imagine slotted would, but Get some lifetime warranty pads and solve that problem.
Who makes lifetime warranty pads? Pads will get worn no matter what if you use your brakes. That would be a very interesting business practice to replace brake pads.
Unless i'm wrong and there are some new kind out there. Maybe you're talking about something else.
Old Jul 14, 2003 | 11:33 AM
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Originally posted by sorcereur


Who makes lifetime warranty pads? Pads will get worn no matter what if you use your brakes. That would be a very interesting business practice to replace brake pads.
Unless i'm wrong and there are some new kind out there. Maybe you're talking about something else.
Autozone's Performance Friction pads usually have a lifetime warranty. That is exactly what my buddy does with his R/T. He drives like a freakin maniac anyway, and warranties out a set of pads about every 6 months!
Old Jul 14, 2003 | 11:48 AM
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Cross drilling removes too much integrity IMO. No one that I know that has ever tried em noticed significant improvement. Slotted seems to work better. Not sure which eats pad more though. I imagine slotted would, but Get some lifetime warranty pads and solve that problem.
tests have proven that CD rotors have less surface area to stop then blanks because of the drilling and consequently offer less stopping power and wear away quicker...
Old Jul 14, 2003 | 12:05 PM
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Autozone's Performance Friction pads usually have a lifetime warranty. That is exactly what my buddy does with his R/T. He drives like a freakin maniac anyway, and warranties out a set of pads about every 6 months!
Very interesting. I wonder why do they do that. It's a stupid business practice.
Old Jul 14, 2003 | 12:10 PM
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To answer a question on the previous page, I bought slotted rotors (powerslot) because I have been hearing stories about the stillen cross drilled rotors warping. I didn't want to get a new set of OEM because, well... they suck. My first choice would have been brembo blanks but they do not exist yet as far as I know. I think the slots are hard on pads but generally should improve braking performance.
Old Jul 14, 2003 | 12:16 PM
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Very interesting. I wonder why do they do that. It's a stupid business practice.
Actually it's not that uncommon. Autozone usually has the best warranties in general IMO, but other stores do this as well. I've seen Autozone put a lifetime warranty on belts, hoses, tools, alternators, power steering pumps, etc. All on stuff that wears out. You will pay more for a lifetime warranty part, but it usually pays off in the end.
Old Jul 14, 2003 | 12:41 PM
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Actually it's not that uncommon. Autozone usually has the best warranties in general IMO, but other stores do this as well. I've seen Autozone put a lifetime warranty on belts, hoses, tools, alternators, power steering pumps, etc. All on stuff that wears out. You will pay more for a lifetime warranty part, but it usually pays off in the end.
Also, most people don't keep cars for 100K miles. Since you pay more for the lifetime warranty, most of the time, people would have traded a car before the pads need replacing. Then there are people who drive crazy and will use them. It is like insurance or extended warranties. If 2 out of 3 don't use it, they still come out on top.
Old Jul 14, 2003 | 08:16 PM
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OK im not gonna take sides how about that, just some1 explain something to me here if CD is such a bad setup then WHY do brands like Wilwood, Brembo, Baer, AP, ect.. still continue to make CD rotor setups with sucess I have seen the results of the cracked rotors from time to time, but think about this out of ALL the people who have them like 2-3 turn out to have problems and now every1 is against them, just like back in the day with the flex section problem with the Y-pipes. Like 2-3 people had them and every1 freaked out.
Whichever setup you choose to go with, it will still work better then OEM period. Maybe the CD rotors have not been mastered for the max but others car companies like....Ferrari,Lambo,Porsche,RUF,Brabus,ect... still continue to use the CD setup and simply because IT WORKS! I dont recall any1 here with the stillen big brake kit (which is CD'd) having any problems. So plainly put if you want a basic upgrade for your brakes 4get the stillen CD if you or any1 do not feel at ease using them.
Get the Powerslot rotors which as you stated are somewhat cheaper and still work quite a bit better then OEM's.
Ive decided when its time to do mine, screw it Im just gonna go with the Powerslot and call it even, when its time to do it again most probably ill get 4piston front and rear wilwoods or something


spirilis: ALMOST!? as bad, that rotor was worn though more then 70% if what it had. The back plate of the pad was half way gone and the caliper piston went so far out, that it actually poped out. I had to get new calipers,rotors and pads. That so far is the worst brakes ive seen...
Old Jul 14, 2003 | 08:26 PM
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Re: Terribly warped rotors.

Originally posted by sorcereur
My rotors are caput, dead, warped. It's bad, annoying, and embarrassing when i have passengers. Where is the best place to get the stillen brake kit for our car? I think they're brembo brakes, but not sure. Looking for that set and stainless steel brake lines.
Also, i'd like to get the 300Z calipers if i can get them cheap, for when i put 18s on the car.

Thanx a lot.
Sorry to hear about your woes. I had the same problem at 36,400 miles, that is btw just out of warranty. I went with EBC Green pads and had the stock rotors turned. No problems yet. I can't help your search but I do feel your aggrivation. Chris
Old Jul 14, 2003 | 08:28 PM
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I hate powerslot rotors, I warped a set after 6K (on my thunderbird) and had to have them cut. (I did follow the break in period also)
Old Jul 14, 2003 | 08:50 PM
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I tell you what, I bought a set of slotted rotors off of ebay when my factory ended up warping. I don't even know what brand they were, but they look very close to power slot. They are zinc plated and the same overall size as factory. I got front and rear for 125 bucks! I haven't had any problems out of them. I'm also using Axis metal master pads. I can tell that they work way better than factory. Check ebay and save yourself a few hundred bucks. You'll never be able to notice a difference between spending $225 or $700 unless you race on a regular basis.
Old Jul 15, 2003 | 12:03 AM
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Do you guys even know how easy it is to warp rotors? They have to be placed FLAT when shipped, if some idiot stackes them on their side and its shipped like that, it will arrive at your door slightly warped and only get worst once installed. Just thought id add that lil bit of info.
Old Jul 15, 2003 | 07:43 AM
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Originally posted by samizer
I tell you what, I bought a set of slotted rotors off of ebay when my factory ended up warping. I don't even know what brand they were, but they look very close to power slot. They are zinc plated and the same overall size as factory. I got front and rear for 125 bucks! I haven't had any problems out of them. I'm also using Axis metal master pads. I can tell that they work way better than factory. Check ebay and save yourself a few hundred bucks. You'll never be able to notice a difference between spending $225 or $700 unless you race on a regular basis.
I have called around and searched online and the only 2 options for the 2002-2003s appear to be Powerslot or Stillen. If I could find some good blanks, I found a company that will cross drill and slot and zinc coat them for $33 per rotor.
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