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07-17-2003, 08:20 AM

VQ35DE

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tsb = ntb03-023 ( Lack Of Power)

My local dealer did not know or have ANYTHING on the lack of power or hesitation TSB's until they heard from me. Took car today and the consult-II confirmed that my ECM part# called for the new MAF(22680-AM600 ordered) and the ECM reprogram. They didn't even have the new CD with the new software on it till I told them I wanted it done. The first dealer I called said THEY would have to confirm the problem before it could be done, but my local dealer (smaller) took MY word for confirmation of the problem(great)! MAF should be here Monday and plan on install & reprogram Mon. or Tue. My car is 2002 auto, build date of 09/01 and my old MAF part# is 22680-6N200. I'll let you know the results.

07-17-2003, 10:11 AM

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Re: tsb = ntb03-023 ( Lack Of Power)

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My local dealer did not know or have ANYTHING on the lack of power or hesitation TSB's until they heard from me. Took car today and the consult-II confirmed that my ECM part# called for the new MAF(22680-AM600 ordered) and the ECM reprogram. They didn't even have the new CD with the new software on it till I told them I wanted it done. The first dealer I called said THEY would have to confirm the problem before it could be done, but my local dealer (smaller) took MY word for confirmation of the problem(great)! MAF should be here Monday and plan on install & reprogram Mon. or Tue. My car is 2002 auto, build date of 09/01 and my old MAF part# is 22680-6N200. I'll let you know the results.

FYI, they can download the latest TSB for the Consult off the internet from corporate. They shouldn't have to wait on a CD.

07-17-2003, 10:22 AM

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Re: Re: tsb = ntb03-023 ( Lack Of Power)

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FYI, they can download the latest TSB for the Consult off the internet from corporate. They shouldn't have to wait on a CD.

....just a nice way of saying no room for your car this week, but we'll order the CD, so bring your car back next week. Mindgames......every chance they get.

07-18-2003, 06:14 AM

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It really SUCKS when we have to inform a dealer on the most current TSB's. Then you have to TRY and find one that will confirm you need it done with a warranty claim!

07-18-2003, 07:23 AM

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Does the TSB apply to all 5th gens? (2000)

07-18-2003, 07:27 AM

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Nope, just 2k2/3's. It is worth the trouble, believe me...

07-18-2003, 09:00 AM

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I brought my car in on tues., with getting the tsb done. I was going to bring in the tsb but decided to see what they would do. I went in and said i had lack of power when accelerating. I also said i almost got rear-end from trying to overtake someone cause the car did not accelerate

. So i left the car there and went home w/o mentioning the tsb. Later they called me back and asked if I used premium gasoline. I said yup. At this point i knew they knew about the tsb! Then they told me they had to order a maf and reflash the computer. I was so happy!

When I went to pick up my car she said that their is "documentation" on the problem i was having and it was a good thing that i had warrarnty cause the "air meter" alone cost $800.

I'm very happy with my dealer "Nissan World of Red Bank." They are very concerned with the surveys that get mailed out and the customer service is fantastic.

Sorry for the long post!

07-18-2003, 09:06 AM

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I still can't get my dealer to even call me back on the issue, and I actually drove their tech around and he witnessed the problem firsthand! Sometimes I really hate Nissan.

OK, a thought...

If I take the car to an Infiniti dealership, will they still be able to work on the car and find all the TSB's and such? They are the same company, after all.

07-18-2003, 09:41 AM

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can anyone post a link to the TSB, i have about 20 minutes before I leave for the dealer. I experienced this today on my way to work, and i just wanted to see if i could get a link to the .pdf to take to the dealer. thanks a lot!!

07-18-2003, 09:44 AM

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Look for the 5 .pdf files at the bottom of the page dude...

http://www.gataxsales.com/N%20GA%20Autos.htm

07-18-2003, 11:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by eclane

I'm very happy with my dealer "Nissan World of Red Bank." They are very concerned with the surveys that get mailed out and the customer service is fantastic.

Sorry for the long post!

I can only say the same for Desert Nissan in Las vegas, if anyone of you guys are ever here.

07-22-2003, 05:33 PM

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TSB DONE TODAY!

I got the new MAF (just the sensor, they left the old tube in-place, anyone of you guys notice that you got new SENSOR only) and reprogram today. Long story short, GET IT DONE. Keep looking till you find a dealer that will do it because the changes in the power curve are like night and day. This TSB is worth driving 150 or 200 miles easy, just to find a good dealer!

07-22-2003, 06:10 PM

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Dealer called and the parts are in, going back next tues. to get it done. Since she said it would of cost $800 (what is she nuts) w/o a warranty, I assume i'm getting the whole unit! I'll post back!

07-22-2003, 07:22 PM

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What is considered "lack of power" though

How am I supposed to explain it to the service writer/dumba$$ at my dealer? Will just showing the TSB be enough for them to fix the prob?

07-22-2003, 10:44 PM

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I just showed then the tsb and they checked to see if it applied to my car...they said it did ordered the part and i am waiting for tomorrow to bring the car in for the fix....been driving it hard all yesterday lolz to see if the difference is indeed that noticable.....

07-23-2003, 02:49 PM

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Do you guys have a copy you can post of the TSB?

07-23-2003, 02:51 PM

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Nevermind...I found the link....I didn't pay attention :X

07-27-2003, 10:45 AM

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whats up with this TSB? i guess im a little behind. i knew there was a tsb on the 2001 MAF but i didnt know about the 2002... i had my MAF replaced twice and i have the 22680-6N201 which i know will blow again if i put an intake back on. how much of a lack of power are we talking about though?

07-27-2003, 11:08 AM

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Find recall info here

Recalls
http://www.infinitihelp.com/Nissan/Recalls/Recalls.htm

bulletins
http://www.infinitihelp.com/Nissan/B...axima/Year.htm

strange though that the site has no info on this bulletin

07-27-2003, 11:17 AM

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look at quicksilver's post in this same thread!!!!

07-27-2003, 11:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by eclane
look at quicksilver's post in this same thread!!!!

I understand your enthusiasm he said Infiniti dealership. I own a nissan, of course I'm to tired to putt 1 and 2 together, because i did not understand why I sould go to the Infiniti dealership and not the Nissan dealership.

So accept my apology and take that dame thing away from under my name
I've read all the faqs while i was trolling for a few days before i bought my car last Sunday

07-27-2003, 11:32 AM

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i was not flaming anyone, i was just pointing to where he could find the tsb. If you do a search on every post i have made, i have not flamed anyone. EVER!!!!!!

07-27-2003, 11:34 AM

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i got my new MAF the other day

07-27-2003, 11:37 AM

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eclane: understood
now how do i get this thing removed so I dont look like a dumba$$ for being to tired to think

07-27-2003, 11:42 AM

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i believe a moderator has put that there for one reason or another. I think that they are only the ones that can take it off or it goes aways after a certain amounts of posts or days. That i'm really not sure of

07-27-2003, 03:57 PM

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Do all 2002 experience this power loss. Sorry for being so stupid, but I need to look into this.

07-27-2003, 05:11 PM

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Your dealers are awesome! After I have more time in a couple more months, I'll bring my car in to another dealer in LA to have the MAF replaced and ECU reprogrammed. My previous 2 attempts were futile.

07-27-2003, 09:44 PM

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Originally posted by mille_3

I can only say the same for Desert Nissan in Las vegas, if anyone of you guys are ever here.

Desert Nissan has been nothing but a pain in my @$$!!! Steve over there is a joke.

07-28-2003, 01:27 AM

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has anyone else actually have this done?
whats are your thoughts?

I feel lack of power through the higher RPM ranges

07-28-2003, 06:15 AM

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Do all 2002 experience this power loss. Sorry for being so stupid, but I need to look into this.

YES, all 2002 and most if not all 2003's need this done!

07-28-2003, 06:54 AM

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so basically I can just walk into the service dept. and show them the TSB??? how can I tell if they or lying or not if they say it doesnt apply to my Maxima??

07-28-2003, 08:09 AM

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I think I've asked this before, but I never got a clear explanation. WHAT IS THIS HESITATION/LAG ALL ABOUT? Is this for auto or 6sp Maximas, or both?

What kind of delay are we talking about here? How do I test for this? I'm taking my Max in this Wed. to get the front driver's side window fixed, so if I need anything else done, I'm not going to be leaving from there until it's all done.

Thanks

07-28-2003, 08:20 AM

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I think I've asked this before, but I never got a clear explanation. WHAT IS THIS HESITATION/LAG ALL ABOUT? Is this for auto or 6sp Maximas, or both?

What kind of delay are we talking about here? How do I test for this? I'm taking my Max in this Wed. to get the front driver's side window fixed, so if I need anything else done, I'm not going to be leaving from there until it's all done.

Thanks

Mr. Corleone...the hesitation is for both trannys and basically can be described as this...

Stomp on the pedal and if the car takes off with no hesitation, its fine...the hesitation is when you stomp and there is a moment of silence when nothing happens and the car goes nowhere, but all of a sudden takes off after a couple of secs...

thats ur hesitation

07-28-2003, 08:23 AM

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does hesitation include when i peel out

07-28-2003, 08:32 AM

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Quote:

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Mr. Corleone...the hesitation is for both trannys and basically can be described as this...

Stomp on the pedal and if the car takes off with no hesitation, its fine...the hesitation is when you stomp and there is a moment of silence when nothing happens and the car goes nowhere, but all of a sudden takes off after a couple of secs...

thats ur hesitation

After a COUPLE of secs?

Heath, you're exaggerating, right? If that's the case, I don't think I've ever experienced this. The only time I get somewhat of a hesitation is if I'm in too high of a gear, stomp the gas, and then it won't pull right away.

However, if I'm in the right gear (2-3k rpms), and mash the gas, it goes...!!!

Should I have the stealership check my MAF part # anyway?

07-28-2003, 08:34 AM

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After a COUPLE of secs? Heath, you're exaggerating, right? If that's the case, I don't think I've ever experienced this. The only time I get somewhat of a hesitation is if I'm in too high of a gear, stomp the gas, and then it won't pull right away.

However, if I'm in the right gear (2-3k rpms), and mash the gas, it goes...!!!

Should I have the stealership check my MAF part # anyway?

i would leave it alone untill u get a problem. My mother always said "dont touch it if it works!"

07-28-2003, 08:34 AM

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update MAF is 22680-AM600 if you have this you are good to go

07-28-2003, 10:40 AM

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i never actually felt the lack of power, well maybe twice but it could of been the tcs. don't really know for sure. I am going to get it done tommorrow because i wanted the new maf (i had the old part #) and to get my ecm up to date.