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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 03:11 AM
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VBmod vs. 5speed conversion

ive been saving up and now have enough money to get a VB mod that ive always wanted, i thought to myself it should knock a good three tenths of my 1/4 and perform like stick,with 30,000k on the car i am planing too boost at around 47k(enough time to save up), ive heard many stories of auto trannys not holding up that amount of power and if i do boost i want to be comortable enough where i can readline at least daily, so after using the search option and reading older posts i see most people like their VB mod and are very satisfied and some people have converted to 5 speed,so now i am debating wich decision to make, i know this has been asked before but if I do the 5 speed conversion how much $$ am i looking to spend, i do have a mechanic that will install the tranny with no cost(close friend) so i am looking at just costs for parts?? any feedback would help thanks
Old Jul 20, 2003 | 08:55 AM
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I got the list from DAVEB and all the parts not including the tranny added up to about $1720.
Old Jul 20, 2003 | 09:05 AM
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vb mod is alrite.. wont' shave off as much time as u'de expect. i say save and get a manual more control when you're in turns
Old Jul 20, 2003 | 11:04 AM
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Get the manual ooooor a buy a used 6speed 02 or 03 if you dont want the hassle...just an idea..
Old Jul 20, 2003 | 11:58 AM
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Originally posted by Winkler22
I got the list from DAVEB and all the parts not including the tranny added up to about $1720.

cold u send me that list please
Old Jul 20, 2003 | 12:43 PM
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Its not an email. You'll have to call him and have him send you a copy. It has everything needed for the conversion w/ the part number and price.
Old Jul 20, 2003 | 04:29 PM
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Its not an email. You'll have to call him and have him send you a copy. It has everything needed for the conversion w/ the part number and price.
I also sent the list to Kevin- He said he was going to put in "shop talk", but I don't see it there yet. I guess he's a pretty busy guy.
Old Jul 20, 2003 | 04:33 PM
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i have VB mod. if you want to stay auto, its a good mod, otherwise, theres nothing like a real manual. go stick
Old Jul 20, 2003 | 04:35 PM
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Originally posted by DAVEB


I also sent the list to Kevin- He said he was going to put in "shop talk", but I don't see it there yet. I guess he's a pretty busy guy.
so without labor im looking at $$1800? or can i find some of the parts at a junkyrd to reduce it, i guess ill do the conversion it il pay off in the long run
Old Jul 20, 2003 | 05:08 PM
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VB Mod = Jerky/Hard shifting Maxima, no speed increase.
5spd Conversion = Whole new attitude, .7-full sec. off your quarter mile.

Doing the VB mod to an auto is like putting an ACT street disc clutch on a stock 5spd Maxima. It's going to grab a LOT harder and throw you into the next year (virtually no slippage) but it's not going to make your car faster.

Think of heavy duty clutches and VB mods as requirements for cars who are boosting. N/A Maxima's don't necissarily need them.
Old Jul 20, 2003 | 05:12 PM
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so without labor im looking at $$1800? or can i find some of the parts at a junkyrd to reduce it, i guess ill do the conversion it il pay off in the long run
I gave the list to Kevin so people could price out just what they need, or all of it. Whatever you find in the yard just reduces your cost.
Old Jul 20, 2003 | 06:11 PM
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I got the conversion done for $1000 BTW. (parts, labor, me getting to help)




Old Jul 20, 2003 | 06:16 PM
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Originally posted by wantasupra3
Get the manual ooooor a buy a used 6speed 02 or 03 if you dont want the hassle...just an idea..


As long as you don't owe more on your car than it's worth then you may be able to take that $$ plus what you planned to spend on the tranny and get a 3.5 model. You should be able to boost those fairly soon.
Old Jul 21, 2003 | 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by Craig Mack
I got the conversion done for $1000 BTW. (parts, labor, me getting to help)





i just need the parts, if its $1000 now how come everyone is runnin it up to around $1800, how much does jeff at maximumtuning sell the prts for?
Old Jul 21, 2003 | 01:13 PM
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one thing about boosting an auto is that you wont get a good rpm range for boosting (i.e. supercharging, if this is the kinda of boost that you are going after.) say you are at 75mph, 2700rpm 4th gear of auto and someone want to race you, you will only get to 4500 rpm when you floored the pedal. you will still have to climb 2000rpm. a lot of cars can walk you at that speed and that gear.


2nd gear is your friend if you've decided to SC your auto. 5spd has a lot more control than auto.
Old Jul 21, 2003 | 02:01 PM
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Nothing beats a manual. Once you learn it, and do it consistently, no auto can touch you.
Also remember there's more to life than having 300whp, like some of these NYC guys. I daily drive my recently purchased 2K SE/AT. Gonna get the VB mod for it @ Maximum Tuning shortly. After racing '190hpkilla' who's got a 2k1 5spd, not even a VB may save me. Only thing I can say is that I can beat them thru traffic cleanly w/ minimal close calls.
Old Jul 21, 2003 | 09:25 PM
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Originally posted by maximum_rpm_nyc
Nothing beats a manual. Once you learn it, and do it consistently, no auto can touch you.
Also remember there's more to life than having 300whp, like some of these NYC guys. I daily drive my recently purchased 2K SE/AT. Gonna get the VB mod for it @ Maximum Tuning shortly. After racing '190hpkilla' who's got a 2k1 5spd, not even a VB may save me. Only thing I can say is that I can beat them thru traffic cleanly w/ minimal close calls.
i know even a stage 3 vbmod is nothing like a 5 speed thats for sure, i have $18,000 to owe on my 2k1 w/mods so ill be lucky to get even 14k for it, theirs no way i can get a 2k2 with good mileage with that money unless im a hot stripper who could get into the dealers head. so its either save up, i duno how much as of now or get the VBmod with a boosted auto soon to come and me being paranoid to drive it, whats the use of spenging 3500 on boost if youre not gonna enjoy it right
Old Jul 22, 2003 | 04:50 AM
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Driving with auto and stick on a boosted car is like night and day. I had both on my SC'd car.. With the Auto it would be a good kick off the line but once you start racing ppl on a roll who are 5spd you get walked... Shortly after being boosted my auto tranny blew up. Lost all my gears except for 4th and reverse.. After that I did a 5spd conversion and racing from a stop or roll is definitely 10X better. You're always be in your boost range and can downshift to the gear you need to when racing. But don't think a 5spd tranny is just as strong either. Because I blew out my 5spd tranny as well.. On my 3rd tranny since being boosted
Old Jul 22, 2003 | 11:16 PM
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Originally posted by PCGuRu2K
Driving with auto and stick on a boosted car is like night and day. I had both on my SC'd car.. With the Auto it would be a good kick off the line but once you start racing ppl on a roll who are 5spd you get walked... Shortly after being boosted my auto tranny blew up. Lost all my gears except for 4th and reverse.. After that I did a 5spd conversion and racing from a stop or roll is definitely 10X better. You're always be in your boost range and can downshift to the gear you need to when racing. But don't think a 5spd tranny is just as strong either. Because I blew out my 5spd tranny as well.. On my 3rd tranny since being boosted

dam sorry to hear that man 2 trannies!!! u must be a pro at this conversion stuff by now,lol, i know hal's "how to" for the conversion is for 4th gens, since we both hve 2k1's was their anything different that had to be done?? or all the same? and if i search around junkyards here in FL will i be able to pull it off for about 1200?how did u get the parts, from jeff or just junting them down the list? by the way hals page stops at step 3 and doesnt finish, does anyone have a link to the rest of the instructions? if i dont have that in full steps and details i dont think me and my mechanic can pull this off
Old Jul 22, 2003 | 11:22 PM
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Originally posted by amaxeatinvtecs


by the way hals page stops at step 3 and doesnt finish, does anyone have a link to the rest of the instructions? if i dont have that in full steps and details i dont think me and my mechanic can pull this off

Never mind something was wrong with my browser, works fine now
Old Jul 23, 2003 | 06:15 PM
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Originally posted by amaxeatinvtecs


i know even a stage 3 vbmod is nothing like a 5 speed thats for sure, i have $18,000 to owe on my 2k1 w/mods so ill be lucky to get even 14k for it, theirs no way i can get a 2k2 with good mileage with that money unless im a hot stripper who could get into the dealers head. so its either save up, i duno how much as of now or get the VBmod with a boosted auto soon to come and me being paranoid to drive it, whats the use of spenging 3500 on boost if youre not gonna enjoy it right
I love my 2k2. I could give boosted maximas a run, but like I said, once the traffic or curvy roads come into play, it's all about skill.
I'm not sure if you're into 907 title(Salvage) cars, but there are some opportunities available if you find the diamond in the rough.
I know a few guys in FL, check out ecocar.com or autobrokersintl.com
You may be able to find a 2K2. I always say work with what you got, and go for a 5spd swap. You will never regret it, unless you are in bumper to bumper traffic in NYC.
Good luck on your decision, and always enjoy the ride.
Old Jul 25, 2003 | 12:43 AM
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Thought this would help I was looking for one myself but don't have enough money to get it together but here you go. One 2001 20th Aniv. ED with VLSD manual trannsmission with only 29,000 miles on it for $1,500 shipped. E-mail me for more info.
Old Jul 25, 2003 | 05:05 PM
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Thought this would help I was looking for one myself but don't have enough money to get it together but here you go. One 2001 20th Aniv. ED with VLSD manual trannsmission with only 29,000 miles on it for $1,500 shipped. E-mail me for more info.
1500 or 15000 ?

details please. I'd sell my 2k SE so fast for a real 2k1 AE.
Old Jul 25, 2003 | 07:36 PM
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1500 or 15000 ?

details please. I'd sell my 2k SE so fast for a real 2k1 AE.
Not a car the tranny 1,500 with 29,000 miles on it.
Old Jul 25, 2003 | 09:13 PM
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in the end...

all of these mods...

what do they prove?

im sorry but i still think of maximas, and my max as more of a luxury car with a lil pep.

leave the 1/4 mile racing to the dragster IMO.
Old Jul 26, 2003 | 10:37 PM
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Not a car the tranny 1,500 with 29,000 miles on it.
Very pricey for tranny. There is one sitting in a salvage yard 3 block from my workplace for $650, and its from an AE. I got some parts from the AE for my interior. No idea how many miles were on it, but dang $1500. PCGuru2K got an entire front clip of a 2K maxima for $1500 for his swap. If anyone lives in NYC interested for a 5spd swap there is another front clip available for $1800, since the motor isn't half wrecked on this clip.
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