difference between 2k2 auto vs 6spd
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difference between 2k2 auto vs 6spd
how much of a difference is there between a 2k2-2k3 auto vs. a 6spd one. wat are the average 1/4 mile times for each? does the 6spd really make that much of a difference?
It can make a huge difference "IF" you know how to drive one. With full interior and full tank of gas I can run 14.8's in my auto all day long at the track. Launching my auto perfectly and stripping weight gets me in the low 14.6's (and it's traction hampered at this point on stock tires/wheels)...
The story is that if driven properly, the 6 speed is faster in all conditions. The flip side of that is that the auto is far more easily modulated (DUH!) and is vastly more consistent (except for the few pros that run on this board). It's a bracket racing machine (I waxed a total of 27 Mustangs on seperate runs this year alone in bracket racing...all of them were 5 speeds). But I'll tell you true, I like the 6 speeds better
The story is that if driven properly, the 6 speed is faster in all conditions. The flip side of that is that the auto is far more easily modulated (DUH!) and is vastly more consistent (except for the few pros that run on this board). It's a bracket racing machine (I waxed a total of 27 Mustangs on seperate runs this year alone in bracket racing...all of them were 5 speeds). But I'll tell you true, I like the 6 speeds better
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Originally posted by Quicksilver
It can make a huge difference "IF" you know how to drive one. With full interior and full tank of gas I can run 14.8's in my auto all day long at the track. Launching my auto perfectly and stripping weight gets me in the low 14.6's (and it's traction hampered at this point on stock tires/wheels)...
The story is that if driven properly, the 6 speed is faster in all conditions. The flip side of that is that the auto is far more easily modulated (DUH!) and is vastly more consistent (except for the few pros that run on this board). It's a bracket racing machine (I waxed a total of 27 Mustangs on seperate runs this year alone in bracket racing...all of them were 5 speeds). But I'll tell you true, I like the 6 speeds better
It can make a huge difference "IF" you know how to drive one. With full interior and full tank of gas I can run 14.8's in my auto all day long at the track. Launching my auto perfectly and stripping weight gets me in the low 14.6's (and it's traction hampered at this point on stock tires/wheels)...
The story is that if driven properly, the 6 speed is faster in all conditions. The flip side of that is that the auto is far more easily modulated (DUH!) and is vastly more consistent (except for the few pros that run on this board). It's a bracket racing machine (I waxed a total of 27 Mustangs on seperate runs this year alone in bracket racing...all of them were 5 speeds). But I'll tell you true, I like the 6 speeds better
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Originally posted by redteg1
as far as modifying them, is there any major gain advantage of the 6spd over the autos in terms of hp?
as far as modifying them, is there any major gain advantage of the 6spd over the autos in terms of hp?
my auto ran 14.6 with just the vb mod and heavier 18" wheels--it all depends on what YOU wanna drive
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Originally posted by mattattax
yes, a manual tranny will get a larger percent of the power to the wheels, but not much at all--IMHO this only really matters when have a lot of mods
my auto ran 14.6 with just the vb mod and heavier 18" wheels--it all depends on what YOU wanna drive
yes, a manual tranny will get a larger percent of the power to the wheels, but not much at all--IMHO this only really matters when have a lot of mods
my auto ran 14.6 with just the vb mod and heavier 18" wheels--it all depends on what YOU wanna drive
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Originally posted by chigga
valve body my dear boy. it makes us autos shift a lot faster and it lengthens the tranny life too. how is your vb mod treatin u anyway matt?
valve body my dear boy. it makes us autos shift a lot faster and it lengthens the tranny life too. how is your vb mod treatin u anyway matt?
it shifts our car a lot faster than stock valve body. it strengthens the valve body too. the biggest problem is if you dont live close to a shop that does it, u have to send in your original valve body to get the mod done. i think its like 3 or 500 dollars, somewhere in between there. its a good mod that just basically shifts the auto more sport than luxury. im not sure bout the warranty, though ask someone that has it, i've just picked all this up from searching but its down so i understand..
Originally posted by chigga
the biggest problem is if you dont live close to a shop that does it, u have to send in your original valve body to get the mod done.
the biggest problem is if you dont live close to a shop that does it, u have to send in your original valve body to get the mod done.
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Originally posted by looslip
See... I would be so on top of this mod if I lived in the east coast. Anybody know a place that does VB mod in Cali?
See... I would be so on top of this mod if I lived in the east coast. Anybody know a place that does VB mod in Cali?
Originally posted by looslip
With a manual its not so much a matter of shifting faster but a manual has better gear ratio, being that it has 2 more gears to work with...
With a manual its not so much a matter of shifting faster but a manual has better gear ratio, being that it has 2 more gears to work with...
I have always owned and will continue to own manuals for a number of reasons. Off the lot, they are inherently less expensive to buy. Manuals return better fuel mileage. They are marginally lighter than automatics and there are less parts to have problems with. And finally, if you do know how to drive it, the manual is quicker. Just my two cents. I've got a neon (which is a notoriously crappy car) that I commute with. It is coming up on 165,000 miles and I have had no transmission problems whatsoever. Haven't even had to tighten the clutch cable.
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Originally posted by Wisky97SE
Go for the 6 speed . . . assuming you could drive well, you can pull a 14.3 ish 1/4 time, with the auto you're gonna do low 15's, high 14's at best.
-Wisky
Go for the 6 speed . . . assuming you could drive well, you can pull a 14.3 ish 1/4 time, with the auto you're gonna do low 15's, high 14's at best.
-Wisky
I like my vb mod a lot. Mine was made by Don but I don't think he's involved with the maxima community anymore.
last i heard stock autos was running mid to high 14's. 15's would be in bad conditions
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5spd Maxs' have a better gear ratio in 1st-3rd for the 1/4 mile. With the 6spds you have an extra shift from 3rd to 4th, that kind of negates some of the power to the ground advantage it has over an auto. So for 2k2 & 2k3's auto's & manual's are closer to even.
Now if we could just change out a few gears in the 6spd...
Now if we could just change out a few gears in the 6spd...
Go to www.mobiletek.net for your info. They are having a special right now.
Originally posted by kcowden
Go to www.mobiletek.net for your info. They are having a special right now.
Go to www.mobiletek.net for your info. They are having a special right now.
Originally posted by ga2000
ok so what u guys are saying an 02 and 03 auto will avg low 15s stock.. and the 6spd will do mid to high 14s stock??
ok so what u guys are saying an 02 and 03 auto will avg low 15s stock.. and the 6spd will do mid to high 14s stock??
6spd mid 14's
Auto high 14's
thats with crappy drivers
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Originally posted by blubyu2k2
ummm no...
6spd mid 14's
Auto high 14's
thats with crappy drivers
ummm no...
6spd mid 14's
Auto high 14's
thats with crappy drivers
)I think you'd have to put those time into the "good" driver category.
Originally posted by Maximax2
With crappy drivers? You ran a 14.6 - there's more than two tenths of a second between that and a crappy driver (unless you suck)
I think you'd have to put those time into the "good" driver category.
With crappy drivers? You ran a 14.6 - there's more than two tenths of a second between that and a crappy driver (unless you suck
)I think you'd have to put those time into the "good" driver category.
No biggie I want mid 13's this winter
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Originally posted by Quicksilver
And you'll get it with ease, I'm sure blu...
We autos can definitely hold out own. I need to get smaller wheels/tires to get deeper into the 14's...then I'll start the engine/tranny mods
And you'll get it with ease, I'm sure blu...
We autos can definitely hold out own. I need to get smaller wheels/tires to get deeper into the 14's...then I'll start the engine/tranny mods
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Re: difference between 2k2 auto vs 6spd
Originally posted by redteg1
how much of a difference is there between a 2k2-2k3 auto vs. a 6spd one. wat are the average 1/4 mile times for each? does the 6spd really make that much of a difference?
how much of a difference is there between a 2k2-2k3 auto vs. a 6spd one. wat are the average 1/4 mile times for each? does the 6spd really make that much of a difference?
Low 14's = 14,14.1,14.2,14.3
Mid 14's = 14.4,14.5,14.6
High 14's = 14.7,14.8,14.9's
whatwe are saying ga2000 is that 02/03 auto should be a mid-high 14 car stock, manuals should be low 14's stock. Its been proven and beaten to death in tons of threads as this is asked at least twice a week.
Mid 14's = 14.4,14.5,14.6
High 14's = 14.7,14.8,14.9's
whatwe are saying ga2000 is that 02/03 auto should be a mid-high 14 car stock, manuals should be low 14's stock. Its been proven and beaten to death in tons of threads as this is asked at least twice a week.
