The Max smoked the comp... Good races though. The Accord did seem faster than the TIburon, but that hyundai was able to get real good launches cuz of the MT... Overall the VQ35 just overpowered the rest. From every rolling start and high speed race the max walked away but off the line it was very close. A couple tiems I couldn't get teh tires to stop spinning but in the end my stock Maxima won.

the accord had an aem cai, made the engine sound good but didn't seem to help much

 

The accord was a stick as well? Anyways, I would hope your Max would beat the Tiburon pretty well they have what like 170 hp? But congrats on the accord, the new 240 hp engine is quite nice in those. Just not torquey like the VQ

 

VQ35 ownz jOo!

 

The new accord still has a 3.Slow, and it's a Honda, I bet 4th Gens probubly make more low end torque stock. Nissan makes torquey motors and the VQ35DE is no exception, nice job.

BTW, I do rag on Hondas a lot, but the fit and finish of the interior is great. My friends mom has a 2k3 Accord V6 Sedan w/black leather and Navi, and its extremely nice inside. The car has very poor acceleration off the line (no torque), but pulls surprisingly hard once you get up and going...nice little motor its got.

 

I had a run from a 60 mph roll with Tiburon V6-6speed. He hit it like 2 secs before me so he had me about 1.5 car length. I only downshifted to 4th gear instead of 3rd but was still able to catch up and dust him for like less than 7 secs. That was quick. I was going to say hi with the guy but he never pulled up to my side. He stayed in my lane the whole time until I took an exit. I guessed he was asking himself why not getting a max in the first place
That car looks decent, just too bad it's a Huyndai.

 

Those new Accords are pretty quick, one kept up with me from about 65-120, after that I just embarrassed him...

 

The Tiburons have both a turbo and a supercharger available. I'm not sure what times they are capable of. Check www.newtiburon.com

 

i heard the new hondas aren't bad. the interior is hott and this is coming from a honda hater. how are they on the highway for racing. would a 6 speed be a challenge for 2k2's and up??

 

I was there and ran into this ... Imported from Mars

 

We all tend to rag on Honda and Hyundai, but they are definitely more reliable than our Nissans from an overall standpoint. Sure they still have their problems, but those two are tied for second most reliable in the world.

 

why oh why do people do that?!?!

 

The race is a little unfair. First, I would shoot my self if I ever lose to a stock HYUNDAI. Second, we have a 3.5; the Accord V6 is 3.0.

3.5 = 255
3.0 = 240

I'm pretty sure if Honda designed a good 3.5 engine, it will match our maximas.

 

I don't know about a Hyundai being more reliable then a Nissan...but I will admit that most Hondas are more reliable then most Nissans out there. I still think that Toyota engines are number 1 in long lasting. I've seen more Toyotas go 200,000+ miles then Hondas and Nissans.

 

Nissan 3.5L VQ35DE: 265 lb-ft
Honda 3.0L J30A4: 212-222 lb-ft

 

Reliability: Toyota is a step above Honda which is a step above Nissan. Nissan is mid-pack right now, but the Maxima has always been the stand-out in the Nissan lineup. It's always had very high reliability. Hyundai is still way down in the pack and below average overall.

http://www.jdpower.com/news/releases...asp?ID=2003050

 

beat me to the JDPower website stevtec

 

WTF happened to Hyundai? They were tied for 2nd last year (2002). I was using those stats I guess. Didn't even realize the new '03 report was out!!

 

uhhmmm..huh?

You can look at the 2000-2003 dependability studies here:

2003: http://www.jdpower.com/awards/indust...ID=749&CatID=1
2002: http://www.jdpower.com/awards/indust...ID=692&CatID=1
2001: http://www.jdpower.com/awards/indust...ID=585&CatID=1
2000: http://www.jdpower.com/awards/indust...ID=486&CatID=1


Hyundai has never been anywhere near the top in the reliability department, although they've been getting better. I think you must be confused with another study.

 

maybe i am just crazy, but how many hyndai owners think they could beat a max???? the only way i think they could think that, is if they are deceived by the "family car" look of the max

 

Does that new JD Power study include all years of Hyundai, or just 2003 models?

 

That's initial quality.

The dependability studies look at 3-4 year old cars. ie the 2003 VDS report looks at year 2000 vehicles. There wouldn't be any dependability data for 2003 models yet because they're not old enough and haven't had enough chances for things to break. They would have initial quality rankings out though, so maybe that's what you werer thinking of.

 

That has to be it then. I'm mixing them up in my head...

Oh well, it's a Friday, and I'm ****** retarded from working my a$$ off all week...

 

Sorry to say, but....that Accord you raced was Auto. 03 Accord LX V6 doesn't come in a Manual. The only one that comes in a manual is the rare EX V6 6-speed. Sure, there are a lot of Auto V6 Ex's out there, but there are REALLY few 6-speeds out there. You might be suprised since it's a honda, but the new 6-speed V6 does 0-60 in 5.9 sec, and the 1/4 mile in about 14.5. Is your maxima an auto or stick? ONLY the COUPE comes in 6-speed. Did you race the sedan? Sedans aren't available with 6-speeds.

Enjoy your Max to the fullest

 

Yeah, the new coupe 6-speed is something you dont want to mess with. And i remember reading somewhere on the web on how the new accords along with the new TSX's were underrated from factory (where the MAX was overrated for HP and underrated for Torque). And the performance numbers dont lie, knot to 60 under 6 seconds. Truely a challenge to beat, if u can.

 

do u think an 2k2 auto max can take a honda coup e6 speed?? what did they underrate our torque as and how much was hp overrated??

 

They rated the '02-03 Maximas at 255/246 (Hp/Tq), but what we really got was the Pathfinder's 240/265 (Hp/Tq)...I guess I can't complain.

 

damn u serious, thats dynoe'd?? we have that much tq, no wonder she gets up with eas,e damn i luv my max. but i'm still looking to race an 04 accord whether i win or lose i want to see how good they run..

 

Yes, that's been the case with the dynos run on stock vehicles. It's not bad, but it's total B.S. that Nissan did us like that...

 

tru i hear that but nothing that a cat back and intake can't fix right?? but what would u rather, that amount of hp or the higher tq??

 

I'd take the TQ if it were advertised as such...HP is only a function of TQ anyway...

 

TSX is under-rated? Don't think so. Like Balla95 said, the ones to watch out for are the Accord and Accord coupe 6-speeds. Lots of gear ratios and VTEC work really well together.

DW

 

Why do you say that?

 

There is actualy some truth to that.

The TSX's dyno numbers suggest something more like 200hp/175tq, not 200hp/166tq as rated.

The new Accord 4-banger is more like 165hp/166tq, not 160hp/161tq as rated.

And the Accord V6 which is rated at 240hp/212tq on regular gas will actually go up to about 250hp/222tq on premium.

 

That's weird, when I had a 99 V6 accord, the dealer told me that it's not great to put premium gas all the time because it will end up damaging the engine over a long period of time.

 

Because that's a different engine.

98-02 Accord V6 = J30A1 engine = loses power on anything higher than 87
03+ Accord V6 = J30A4 engine = gains power above 87 octane

 

I knew about the Accord V6 actually being able to make more power depending on the octane feul. The Accord 4 banger I never paid any attention to, and the TSX, well, you learn something new. But the TSX still ain't fast even with its 175 TQ

DW

 

Ya need more than 175 lb-ft of torque at the crank to make a 3200-3300 lb car feel lively.

 

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