my friend has an auto 4.6 gt who would win if i have a stock 00 se 5 spd. What about if i have a cat-back, y pipe, and cai.

 

it'll be close, but he'll probably win

 

ive raced stock 4.6 covertibles and hardtops and only times i lost was to a 5spd from a dead stop. stock it would be close but with a y pipe and intake you should be able to walk him. if you want to run him stock, run him from a rpm where your variable intake is open so you get the jump and hope its enough to hang on to. dont get me wrong, i dont kill them but ive never lost from a roll even with the auto.

 

thats good news, thanks sloppy

 

Auto GT's run mid 14's with a good driver @ ~ 94-95mph, so he will probably win. Maybe go from like 20 mph, so the GT has to go from 2nd gear and you can go from 1st. Either way I still think he'll walk you.

 

99+ Mustang GTs (The more boxy looking ones) have 260hp/305tq and autos run about 14.0 to 14.2. Stock for stock an 02/03 Max couldnt beat one(driver variable excluded). What you guys are thinking of (except jtkz13) are the older than 99 Mustangs GTs which had only 215hp. In that case any 5th gen max should be able to beat it.

 

i am speaking of the earlier 4.6. i didnt mean to make it sound like i could run the newer models except the V6. although, ive seen one 2k2 auto run door to door with only exhaust with the newer 4.6 GT's with 5 spd from a roll. im pretty sure the GT said he was not completely stock as well.

 

if your a 2k i would be Cautious going into battle with the new Mustang GT's .. i have been watching them run and while i dont know who has what (if any of these cars have modifications of any kind) I see them putting up 14.0-14.9 I know thats a big/wide margin of times. But drivers mean alot in this equation. i also can say the power is there with 95-99 mph trap speeds.

Again i dont know much about the GT's but judging those times..i would make sure I could cook up a 14.5 or somekind of mid 14 consistently before I got into a dual with one. Because MOST of these guys will own you and me both ! Good Luck !

 

bgates, while I know of a couple auto 99+ GT's that have hit low 14's stock, the majority are mid 14's with stock tires and gears. I have a friend who runs extremely consistent 13.8's @ 100mph with a shift kit and cat-back on his auto 01 GT.

The 96-98 GT auto's are dog's, however. Even with exhaust I had a friend who couldn't hit 14's. His best was like 15.0 @ 93mph, which is what a 2k Max 5 speed with some mods would probably run.

The 99+ have a much better top end than the 96-98's, and can run high 13's bone stock with a 5 speed and excellent driver.

 

i read all the post and will just leave this here for info or who knows what..thought the thread was about the new horses !! give me more time ..im going to whip me one soon enough !!! lol

 

i raced one with my 6speed... that mustang is a beast if he has the v8.

 

I've gotten 13.8x's with a bone stock '00 GT on stock tires, so yeah, they are fast...

 

man he'll kill u of the line, the GT got crazy torque... however there is one way u can beat em...
the Gt doesnt have much torque after 2nd or 3rd gear... maximas do
so if u want cruise with him on 2nd and for sure you'll take him

i'm sayin this out of experience... my cousin got a Gt and the only way i can win is this

 

He has the same TQ at the same RPM in every gear...he just doesn't have the gear multiplication. Then again, neither do we...

 

I have yet to see a stock 99+ autos GT run a 14.0-14.2 they usaully run about 14.5-14.8 around here and trap from 93-95mph like Jtkz13 said, I have seen multiple ones perform in this range myself. The manual in this car makes a huge difference moreso than most cars with V8's were the difference isnt that great it runs High 13's to low 14's in the manual.

 

I've noticed that the average "Rickie Racer" in the Rustang tends to get too excited and smoke the tires on the launch. It takes a little more skill and patience to get good 60' times.

Dave
02 Maxima SE

 

I ran one from 40-100 and it looked like we were stopped b/c it was so close. He had 02 5spd gt with exhaust. We both had a passenger and his was a vert.

 

Yeah, but you're not normal

 

2 weeks ago, coming from a soccer match, one of the guys i play with who drives a 2k2 auto mustang GT came up from behind me at 40mph and lined up with me and started smiling. I know he was game because he's always trying so this time i took the bait; dropped it in 3rd and we went for it. He put a car on me off the bat, but when i shifted in 3rd i started gaining. By the end of the 3rd i was about 3/4 of a car ahead of him then we shut it down. He was racing because the following week we talked about it and he was suprised how fast my family car was.
I have raced pioneer's 2k 5spd max a few times when he had the ypipe, catback, and intake. From a roll the 5speed is faster than the 2k2+, no questions about it; so you'll beat the auto GT if he's stock and from a roll. No question. Once you're in 3rd and getting close to the top end you'll just pull away from him and it'll be even worst if u continue all the way in 4th. 4th gear on the 5spd tops out at 136mph or something right?

 

I dont even bother here in Motor City. Every other mustangs I run into got a blower running 12s or lower. Not to mention how loud their cars are.

 

Based on your mods it would be close. Without them even with him in an auto I'd put my money on him.

 

i actually have pioneers old car, but he took the y pipe and intake off, so i'm really close to buying a budget y pipe and place racing cai.

 

what year is the GT?

 

I've raced a 2k2 GT 5 speed and a 96 GT 5 speed. The 2k2 GT was dead even overall (he pulled 3 feet, i'd pull 3 feet) and we both had a passenger. The 96 GT was embarassing for him. I beat him by 1.1 seconds at the strip and neither of us had great launches. But beware of the 2k2 ones, they have some nice power

 

wade2ksleeper u got the green sleeper? Dang. Make sure u keep that car in good condition or i'll hunt you down. I admire that car because she whooped me since i had my celica and is very well maintained. With a y pipe, catback and PR cai you have a killer car in your hand. Top end in that car is montrous and yes with those mods you can take out a stock 2K2 Auto GT mustang from a roll. He'll get you on the bottom end without a doubt, but just know how to drive your car and you'll pull on him once you're in third, and murder him if u go all the way to end of 4th. Good luck and be safe.

 

So You are the Kid with my car Aaaaa. So Couple of years from now when we meet at a Nissan Meet, That car should be like I sold it right, OR Else

I know you are not racing my Car already in Stock Form

Enjoy man, that car is a pleasure to drive.

 

no, haven't raced it at all. I'm getting exhaust put on it tomorrow. I love the car. The only thing that has happened to it at all is my sister had a balloon with marker on it on the way home back to florida after buying it from you. The marker smeared on the soon. But it came out so its all good. I love the car and take excellent care of it, thanks for the great car.

 

what kind of exhaust you're getting put on?

 

flowmaster

 

40 series?

 

no, 60 series

 

You'r gonna cut the Factory Pipe

 

For all it's worth, I smoked one five times at the track a month back : I literally let him launch first, and once a few meters behind, ran up to him and walked him.

Of course, I should probably also mention that I got a muffled chirping thingy under the hood

 

I just traded my 2001 SE for 2003 Mach 1. Not near the craftmanship of a Nissan BUT they sure are fun to drive. More possibilities with the 4.6 IMO.

 

flowmaster exhaust? or muffler?

 

I'm getting the b pipe custom made and putting a 60 series on there.

 

It's been my experience that the auto 99+ GTs lay down better times then the 5 speeds simply because most drivers get throttle happy. The 99+ 5 speeds a generally about .2 and 2mph faster than the autos. Once you add a higher stall converter, the autos take the nod.

At my track STOCK 5 speeds run about 14.4-14.6@98mph and the STOCK autos are consistently 14.6s@95mph. The convertibles seem to be substainially slower due an extra 120lbs of weight (power top, lots of chassis bracing) and horrendous aerodynamics above 70mph (yes, convertibles with the top up have lots of drag). The two convertibles I've seen run were in the 14.7-14.8@94mph range (5 speed and one auto).

Overall, I think the hardtop GT's (auto/5 speed) topend is better than any stock Maxima. They're typically .5 and 2mph+ faster than the 3.5 Maxima 6 speed (14.8) and G35 sedan (14.7) auto that race at my track.


Dave

 

Hey guys,

I have been to the track with a bunch of other max's and I have a couple runs against 4.6 GT Mustang's / 98 and 00.

If my brother was able to record some of my runs, I was able to beat them. Not just once but twice.

The best run that I had so far was 14.4 this whole year.

That's with only an Injen intake and my timing advance.

Honestly, I have ran my car a total of 36 runs this whole year.

You can ask some of the guys on the org who live in the Chicago land area who came with me to the track. The Byron race track is the best track to get "A LOT" of runs in. The most that I ran in one day is 15 times, within 3 hours and I actually took a break to watch other cars run.

If you have a 6speed 3.5 max, you should be able to take a 4.6 GT mustang at the light. If you have a 5 speed 3.0, you are going to need a little bit more mods.

 

Are you high? I get 1.9 60' times in a bone stock GT ('00 model). I absolutely guarantee that no stock 5th Gen Maxima will ever get a 1.9 60' time...ever! That's not even with slicks...

 

Yea. When I get a real job, I want to own a muscle car; 69 Chevy Nova. My neighboor's uncle got one . Showed up to my neighboor's house after running few times at a local track. Killed a 02 911 Turbo.