stillen 3.5 headers installed on my 2002 auto max
11-04-2003, 08:17 PM
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stillen 3.5 headers installed on my 2002 auto max
I just got done installing my stillen headers and y pipe 2 hours ago and whoaaaaaa this thing really picks up now i notice it all through the rpm range only problem is its kind of loud and it took me 6 hours without a lift dont be fooled its a long job to do but well worth the price and time i also through on my new greddy evolution and high flow cat the day before and the setup is twice as loud now with the headers installed bottom line dont listen to the other guys on here the stillen headers and y pipe do work if you saw how big the dam precats were youd know they would work by just seeing the things the best part is after all the mods the service engine light did not come but i reset the ecu anyways incase it might have later on well hope this helps out for anyone interested
11-04-2003, 08:35 PM
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how much did it all cost u...and yea numbers and some pics would be nice...thanks
11-04-2003, 08:36 PM
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put it this way if i floor it going 40 the car will burn out still and if i floor it going 20 the front end will almost bounce and try to take off so the gains are aparent becuase this never happend before on did this when i pinned it at 0 but not 20 or 40
11-04-2003, 08:53 PM
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We all know Stealin makes a great product... Bleh, I wouldn't even bother with anything from them. Everyone wants everyone to run a dyno whenever they mod something, like we have time and cash to do that sorta thing...
11-04-2003, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Y2KSESteve
For cheapest prices on these badboys, see sig. 
11-04-2003, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by releasedtruth
We all know Stealin makes a great product... Bleh, I wouldn't even bother with anything from them.
11-04-2003, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by glen1685
I just got done installing my stillen headers and y pipe 2 hours ago and whoaaaaaa this thing really picks up now i notice it all through the rpm range only problem is its kind of loud and it took me 6 hours without a lift dont be fooled its a long job to do but well worth the price and time i also through on my new greddy evolution and high flow cat the day before and the setup is twice as loud now with the headers installed bottom line dont listen to the other guys on here the stillen headers and y pipe do work if you saw how big the dam precats were youd know they would work by just seeing the things the best part is after all the mods the service engine light did not come but i reset the ecu anyways incase it might have later on well hope this helps out for anyone interested
Dont be afraid of punctuation.
11-04-2003, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Y2KSESteve
True, but Stillen doesn't give board member discounts like we do. 
what kind of discount u talkin? how come i havent heard of this?
will
11-04-2003, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Y2KSESteve
We've always had discounts for maxima.org members. All you have to do is give us a call or e-mail us to get your pricing.
thanks
will
11-05-2003, 03:46 AM
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All my mods costed me about $1700. My frankencar apexi intake costed me about $190 he lives 5 minutes down the road from me, high flow cat $200, stillen headers with y pipe shipped $930, and the greddy evo $547 shipped. All this for $1700 but well worth it. I would dyno my car, but the dyno is kinda far away, because i live out in the woods basically. But i can tell the headers gave more hp and tq jsut by driving it thats for sure. I will try to get a sound clip soon, and put it on here for you guys.
11-05-2003, 03:55 AM
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I just maxed my car out now with the headers, and mods on my car i hit 145. Earlier with just the intake i hit 135 if this helps anyone. It deosnt take as long to hit 100 when i punch it going 70 either. This mod is a deninite good thing. The second you see the old manifolds with the preacats on them you will know these headers are better, because the pre cats alone on the facotry system were huge almsot as big as a cantalopes, and the air to go through was so limited before.
11-05-2003, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by E55AMG2
Get some dyno #'s
especially since the only 2 guys who dyno'd lost power.. 
11-05-2003, 08:12 AM
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I've ridden in WILLSE's car recently (Oct. 31st). I really do not believe that it is missing power anymore. He replaced the power valve gasket, and it pulls as hard as, if not harder than a 350Z from a roll. I believe that he has resolved his issues...
EDIT--I forgot to say that it sounds FREAKING AWESOME!
EDIT--I forgot to say that it sounds FREAKING AWESOME!
11-05-2003, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Quicksilver
I've ridden in WILLSE's car recently (Oct. 31st). I really do not believe that it is missing power anymore. He replaced the power valve gasket, and it pulls as hard as, if not harder than a 350Z from a roll. I believe that he has resolved his issues...
EDIT--I forgot to say that it sounds FREAKING AWESOME!
EDIT--I forgot to say that it sounds FREAKING AWESOME!
11-05-2003, 08:40 AM
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Butt dynos are worthless and more sound often confuses the senses into thinking you're quicker than you really are. Dynos and track times are the only real ways to determine the gains and looses. I hope your car is making more power, but from what we've so far, the gains are mediocore at best.
Dave
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11-05-2003, 08:51 AM
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Lets see some pics. 
j/k. I would like to see pics of the install though.
j/k. I would like to see pics of the install though.
11-05-2003, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by glen1685
dont go telling me im not gaining power i know my car its alot faster and how can you say you have a 1996 max your jsut going bye other people anyways
Dave?! 
11-05-2003, 09:46 AM
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A damn stop watch test from 65-100mph or whatever you can SAFELY do before/after would be better then your butt-dyno.
I don't see HOW people can drop $900-$1700 on performance parts and not spend a measly $50 on a dyno.
An intake, catback, UDP...I wouldn't, but a y-pipe, ECU, and definitely headers that are "simulating" rear 02-sensors would be a must IMO.
I don't see HOW people can drop $900-$1700 on performance parts and not spend a measly $50 on a dyno.
An intake, catback, UDP...I wouldn't, but a y-pipe, ECU, and definitely headers that are "simulating" rear 02-sensors would be a must IMO.
11-05-2003, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave B
Butt dynos are worthless and more sound often confuses the senses into thinking you're quicker than you really are. Dynos and track times are the only real ways to determine the gains and looses. I hope your car is making more power, but from what we've so far, the gains are mediocore at best.
Dave
Dave
My butt dynos aren't useless...I was comparing his car to mine. His would kick my car's a$$ in a heartbeat. It pulls "extremely" hard all the way to redline.
11-05-2003, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Quicksilver
My butt dynos aren't useless...I was comparing his car to mine. His would kick my car's a$$ in a heartbeat. It pulls "extremely" hard all the way to redline.
11-05-2003, 11:00 AM
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Wills is 6spd, "yours" is auto though.
Plus, ridding in a car vs. driving it is ALWAYS different. I always notice a car feels different as a passenger vs. driver.
Plus, ridding in a car vs. driving it is ALWAYS different. I always notice a car feels different as a passenger vs. driver.
Originally Posted by Quicksilver
My butt dynos aren't useless...I was comparing his car to mine. His would kick my car's a$$ in a heartbeat. It pulls "extremely" hard all the way to redline.
11-05-2003, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
Wills is 6spd, "yours" is auto though.
Plus, ridding in a car vs. driving it is ALWAYS different. I always notice a car feels different as a passenger vs. driver.
Plus, ridding in a car vs. driving it is ALWAYS different. I always notice a car feels different as a passenger vs. driver.
That's still not the point. I've driven 6 speeds (stock) and ridden in 6 speeds, and his is the fastest 6 speed I've been in, bar none. And yes, I was doing a 0-60 calculation and 40-90 calculations, and those are also superior to my car or any car I've previously tested.
11-05-2003, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Quicksilver
That's still not the point. I've driven 6 speeds (stock) and ridden in 6 speeds, and his is the fastest 6 speed I've been in, bar none.
And yes, I was doing a 0-60 calculation and 40-90 calculations, and those are also superior to my car or any car I've previously tested.
11-05-2003, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
That's still not valid. IF you had a stock 6spd and drove your car then his back-to-back, I'd give it weight. Riding in someones car is NOT a good comparison.
What calculations/testing is this from? G-Tech? Stop-watch?
What calculations/testing is this from? G-Tech? Stop-watch?
And I did do back to back vehicles...his, then mine...I know I'm an auto, and I don't care what you folks say or think. I've driven enough cars over time to be able to roughly gauge performance gains over stock setups. He doesn't have a massive drop in power past 4500 RPM like his previous dyno with headers showed, and it pulled harder to redline from 5K than any other VQ35 I've been in. Those are witnessed facts, not errant guesses.
11-05-2003, 12:24 PM
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What kind of numbers did you see on the timer/stopwatch?What is the delta? What period of time were these "tests" done over? Same stretch of road? Averaged over 3 or more runs?
Again, riding vs. driving is NOT the same IGNORING the different VQ35s on different days/months whatever. Every CAR I've been in feels MUCH faster in the passenger seat vs. driver. Hell even my own car. I've switched from driver->passenger before and it felt faster.
Unless it was back-to-back auto vs. auto or 6spd vs. 6spd, it's NOT remotely a valid comparison. Butt-dynos are too subjective and with all the additional variables you're talking about? Not valid IMO.
Again, riding vs. driving is NOT the same IGNORING the different VQ35s on different days/months whatever. Every CAR I've been in feels MUCH faster in the passenger seat vs. driver. Hell even my own car. I've switched from driver->passenger before and it felt faster.
Unless it was back-to-back auto vs. auto or 6spd vs. 6spd, it's NOT remotely a valid comparison. Butt-dynos are too subjective and with all the additional variables you're talking about? Not valid IMO.
Originally Posted by Quicksilver
Digital timer...digital stopwatch
And I did do back to back vehicles...his, then mine...I know I'm an auto, and I don't care what you folks say or think. I've driven enough cars over time to be able to roughly gauge performance gains over stock setups. He doesn't have a massive drop in power past 4500 RPM like his previous dyno with headers showed, and it pulled harder to redline from 5K than any other VQ35 I've been in. Those are witnessed facts, not errant guesses.
And I did do back to back vehicles...his, then mine...I know I'm an auto, and I don't care what you folks say or think. I've driven enough cars over time to be able to roughly gauge performance gains over stock setups. He doesn't have a massive drop in power past 4500 RPM like his previous dyno with headers showed, and it pulled harder to redline from 5K than any other VQ35 I've been in. Those are witnessed facts, not errant guesses.
11-05-2003, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
Every CAR I've been in feels MUCH faster in the passenger seat vs. driver. Hell even my own car. I've switched from driver->passenger before and it felt faster.
Unless it was back-to-back auto vs. auto or 6spd vs. 6spd, it's NOT remotely a valid comparison. Butt-dynos are too subjective and with all the additional variables you're talking about? Not valid IMO.
Unless it was back-to-back auto vs. auto or 6spd vs. 6spd, it's NOT remotely a valid comparison. Butt-dynos are too subjective and with all the additional variables you're talking about? Not valid IMO.
As for the auto to 6 speed comparison, the difference between the performance of the 3.5 VQ with an auto and 6 speed is pretty minimal. We're talking .2 seconds and 1-2 mph or so. The extra torque of the 3.5 really helps this car. The reason manuals feel so much quicker is because of the deeper gearing and hard snaps on shifts. My 94 Z28 auto that went 13.4@103mph felt far slower than my buddies 13.8@103mph 6 speed 96 Z28.
Dave