!!!!!!!!MOTHER OF ALL Stillen Header Threads!!!!!!!!!!
#201
Originally Posted by WILLSE
all i was tryin to say is that the only way that they will even work with us is if we stop bashing them. its been 6-7 months since all this has happend bashing them has gotten us nowhere maybe its time to take a different approach and see what we can work out. the only thing that i want is a resolution and hopefully we can get one sooner or later.
will
will
If you don't want to be bashed fix your problems before they get out of hand. Like I said no one is perfect you made an item that didn't work out well. Go back to the drawing board and start over and do it right or just drop the item and offer some type of comensation to the customers that purchased the part and contact you.
But no, that's not going to happen thier gonna keep the cash and hope you all just go away.
If I got a set of these I'd sell them on Ebay and move on with my life.
#202
Will,
I hear ya, but honestly they aren't going to do jack, but take MORE of your money with BS offers on "discount" parts or something. Sell their headturds on eBay and buy yourself a set of HS or Cattman headers.
We already know how they got their "upto 19hp gain", which is shady IMO withOUT showing a dyno graph ESPECIALLY after the fact when it's too late to see that it's ONLY a nominal blip by their own creative definition of "Max Power". Plus, it's still not public information, wonder why?
NOW...we know why. They MAGICally defy physics and automotive engineering priciples by SOMEHOW "optimizing" their parts without *ANY* intention to work with OTHER parts like their OWN intake/catback~!!!! Do you still want their parts anymore?
I sure as hell don't. How do you know if you're gaining/losing or hindering gains of other parts, since they're only claiming to make "upto Xhp gains" SOMEWHERE on a 100% STOCK vehicle? Who the *** stays 100% stock with headers only?
Unless you're only planning on buying THAT ONE PART for Xhp/Xtq for the rest of your performance modding, I don't care. I'll stick with their non-performance stuff from now on, since I don't have much choice. Slowly, but surely, more companies will step up and I can de-illenize my car.
I hear ya, but honestly they aren't going to do jack, but take MORE of your money with BS offers on "discount" parts or something. Sell their headturds on eBay and buy yourself a set of HS or Cattman headers.
We already know how they got their "upto 19hp gain", which is shady IMO withOUT showing a dyno graph ESPECIALLY after the fact when it's too late to see that it's ONLY a nominal blip by their own creative definition of "Max Power". Plus, it's still not public information, wonder why?
NOW...we know why. They MAGICally defy physics and automotive engineering priciples by SOMEHOW "optimizing" their parts without *ANY* intention to work with OTHER parts like their OWN intake/catback~!!!! Do you still want their parts anymore?
I sure as hell don't. How do you know if you're gaining/losing or hindering gains of other parts, since they're only claiming to make "upto Xhp gains" SOMEWHERE on a 100% STOCK vehicle? Who the *** stays 100% stock with headers only?
Unless you're only planning on buying THAT ONE PART for Xhp/Xtq for the rest of your performance modding, I don't care. I'll stick with their non-performance stuff from now on, since I don't have much choice. Slowly, but surely, more companies will step up and I can de-illenize my car.
#203
Originally Posted by IceY2K1
Will,
I hear ya, but honestly they aren't going to do jack, but take MORE of your money with BS offers on "discount" parts or something.
I hear ya, but honestly they aren't going to do jack, but take MORE of your money with BS offers on "discount" parts or something.
#208
I heard Stillen CCard is good for up to 20WHP in every car you drive... Stillens body kit- other than the aero look like crap, rest of the parts they sell are overpriced items. Long time ago friend had a Stillen exhaust on a SE-R and while at the track the exhaust tip flewoff at launch and hit the track official. Muffler was only a year old,sounded terrible, and rusted from inside out complety within a year. I wouldnt care if they didn't make any Maxima parts as I never owned anyting Stillen.
#212
Originally Posted by E55AMG2
This is why you get the HS headers
#213
Sorry to bring up an old subject here, but I have some useful/useless information.
First off, the Stillen O2 simulator box that comes with the headers is garbage. After replacing my rear O2 sensors with the new ones (specified in the Nissan TSB), I still kept getting P1147 and P1167 codes. And I'm not the only one, as 1BADMAX gets the same thing.
So I went off on a wild tangent and decided to order a universal O2 simulator. Once I received it, I ripped out the Stillen POS emulator and installed the new one. It even comes with a LED to let you know that it is working.
Since I installed it, I've had no SES light whatsoever. I checked the pending codes and there were none.
So the ultimate test came the other day. I was driving down the toll road when I heard a sound that was metal scraping against asphault. I pulled over to find that a 4' long 1/2" wide piece of iron had become mangled underneath my car. I didn't remember seeing it, or hitting anything, etc... but that's besides the point. Anyway, when I removed the iron rod from under the car, I noticed that it had punctured a hole into the front downpipe of the headers. So I have this big "gross leak" in my exhaust. So I continue on down the road... and guess what.... no SES!!!! The emulator definitely works. I'm getting the hole fixed by a local fabrication shop (they do muscle car fabrication), but will replace the headers with another company's headers eventually.
I got it from http://www.o2simulator.com/ if you are in need of one or want to know more information.
But for now, if you have the same problem with the SES light on, know that it's another one of Stillen's crappy design flaws in that box, and not your car.
First off, the Stillen O2 simulator box that comes with the headers is garbage. After replacing my rear O2 sensors with the new ones (specified in the Nissan TSB), I still kept getting P1147 and P1167 codes. And I'm not the only one, as 1BADMAX gets the same thing.
So I went off on a wild tangent and decided to order a universal O2 simulator. Once I received it, I ripped out the Stillen POS emulator and installed the new one. It even comes with a LED to let you know that it is working.
Since I installed it, I've had no SES light whatsoever. I checked the pending codes and there were none.
So the ultimate test came the other day. I was driving down the toll road when I heard a sound that was metal scraping against asphault. I pulled over to find that a 4' long 1/2" wide piece of iron had become mangled underneath my car. I didn't remember seeing it, or hitting anything, etc... but that's besides the point. Anyway, when I removed the iron rod from under the car, I noticed that it had punctured a hole into the front downpipe of the headers. So I have this big "gross leak" in my exhaust. So I continue on down the road... and guess what.... no SES!!!! The emulator definitely works. I'm getting the hole fixed by a local fabrication shop (they do muscle car fabrication), but will replace the headers with another company's headers eventually.
I got it from http://www.o2simulator.com/ if you are in need of one or want to know more information.
But for now, if you have the same problem with the SES light on, know that it's another one of Stillen's crappy design flaws in that box, and not your car.
#214
#217
I still hve one cable to rewire on my 02s, but if this is a better bet i'll maybe check it out.
THanks for the input.
THanks for the input.
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