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Gearing for 6 speed

Old Nov 20, 2003 | 10:03 PM
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Gearing for 6 speed

What do you guys think about the gearing on the 6speed? Some fool is telling me that it sucks. I am asking this because I going to do a tranny swap and wanted to get a 6 speed instead of 5 and hesyas that i am better off with a 5 speed? what should i do?
Old Nov 20, 2003 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by vsamoylov
What do you guys think about the gearing on the 6speed? Some fool is telling me that it sucks. I am asking this because I going to do a tranny swap and wanted to get a 6 speed instead of 5 and hesyas that i am better off with a 5 speed? what should i do?
I own a 6sp and I think the gearing is excellent. However, it isn't entirely necessary as the car has mongo torque and doesn't need to be revved high to get going quickly. Proof of this is that the Altima V6 with 5sp is just as fast 0-60 and 1/4 mile. Inspite of that, the 6sp offers a unique driving experience if you've driven 5speeds your whole life, a higher top speed than the Altima, and better mileage on the highway because of the taller sixth gear.
Old Nov 20, 2003 | 10:21 PM
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Gear Ratios on 5spd
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1st - 3.285
2nd - 1.850
3rd - 1.272
4th - 0.954
5th - 0.795
Final - 3.823


Gear Ratios on 6spd
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1st - 3.153
2nd - 1.944
3rd - 1.392
4th - 1.055
5th - 0.809
6th - 0.630
Final - 3.812


I'll let you make the call on which one you think is better.
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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 10:24 PM
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thanks, i appriciate it. I own a 4th gen maxima with a 2k engine and tranny. my bro has a 6 speed tranny which he does not need and we have alot of spare time. So we are going to swap the tranny.
what do you guys think?
Old Nov 20, 2003 | 10:38 PM
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2k engine (complete) will not fit a 4th gen. So I take it you just have the engine with a 4th gen intake manifold. So technically all you got is a 2k VQ30de not a VQ30dek. 5th gen intake manifold wont clear your firewall and I believe hood clearance is an issue. So no point telling people you got a 2k engine because there is nothing advantageous with the setup you got since its technically the same.

Also 6spd aint no joke to install. Requires a few modifications and not like just swapping it to a 5spd. First off the 6spd uses a cable driven shift mechanism not a Shift rod mechanism so that you will have to work out. Not to mention the starter wont clear so you will have to do some modifications there as well. Hope you got ALOT of spare time and patience, cause its not going to be fun.

And for all that work, what are you truly gaining? The ability to say you got a 6spd in your maxima? The only really true thing you are going to gain is that your 6th gear ratio is tall that you will probably get better gas mileage at a cost of less performance in that gear.

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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 11:00 PM
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I agree with Dixit, it might be cool to have but is it really worth it?
Old Nov 21, 2003 | 05:52 AM
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nothing like doing 100+mph and floating in six gear
@ low rpm's
Old Nov 21, 2003 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by MannyNJ2k2max
nothing like doing 100+mph and floating in six gear
@ low rpm's

3000~3200RPM to be exact~, I'm going to try 150MPH later and let you guys know where the RPM is at in 6th gear.
Old Nov 21, 2003 | 07:10 AM
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if you really wanna talk to someone about 6speed tranny swaps, talk to jeff @max tuning in Long Island, NY. he did it on his 4th gen. we talked for a few minutes on it. you have to go through the firewall and you have to move A LOT of stuff around just to get it to mount correctly. of course it's doable, but he's already done and he said it was a pain and HE runs the the place.

now if you want to know if a VQ35 will fit a 4th gen, just wait about 4-6 mos. that's all i'm saying.
Old Nov 21, 2003 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by nismotech
3000~3200RPM to be exact~, I'm going to try 150MPH later and let you guys know where the RPM is at in 6th gear.
Wow 3000-3200. On the Auto I get like 3500 or a bit less going 100+
Old Nov 21, 2003 | 08:48 AM
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6 speed in a 4th gen = worthless


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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave B
6 speed in a 4th gen = worthlessDave
6 speed in 4th gen = interesting and unique project

6speed followed by VQ35 motor in 4th gen =

lotta people like hte 4th gen body
lotta people like the 5th gen engine
put that together, i don't see worthless, i see a fun and very cool project. well, maybe not fun.....cause he's prolly gonna be breaking his back doign it, but not worthless
Old Nov 21, 2003 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by PoLo
6 speed in 4th gen = interesting and unique project

6speed followed by VQ35 motor in 4th gen =

lotta people like hte 4th gen body
lotta people like the 5th gen engine
put that together, i don't see worthless, i see a fun and very cool project. well, maybe not fun.....cause he's prolly gonna be breaking his back doign it, but not worthless
I love the 4th gen body and love the 5th gen (02-03) engine. I would like to see someone put in a 5th gen 6-speed in a 4th gen along with the 5th gen engine.

BTW: When is that turbo coming out for the 5th gens?
Old Nov 21, 2003 | 09:15 AM
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What Dave B is refering to is that 6speed/ in a 3.0 4th gen is worthless- I agree- that motor is suited/utilized better with 5speed w/long stretches in gears
Old Nov 21, 2003 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by MannyNJ2k2max
What Dave B is refering to is that 6speed/ in a 3.0 4th gen is worthless- I agree- that motor is suited/utilized better with 5speed w/long stretches in gears
understood, my bad Dave B.

but yes, 5th gen motor, 4th gen body....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz if you catch my drift
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