I hope they start on the Maxima soon!
02+ Altima - http://www.nissantalk.com/forum/show...hreadid=131530

 

 

what is the amount of power they gained?

 

Sweeeeeet!

 

It's in the final stages now. All I know about it, is what's stated in the thread.

 

Holy S**t. Emax is back. Welcome back.

 

yea everyone is so excited but only one maybe two will buy it from this site.

 

Haha, I am still alive

 

Does this include me and you?

 

I have part time power right now but this would be nice

 

I take it you went with NASS? Gave up trying to keep up with the 6spders NA? JK

 

10chars

 

 

I didn't give up I succeeded. Your 13.8 on street tires is not top dog anymore

 

You still cheated.

 

Hahaha, I was just kidding, I know you beat my time a while ago. You know I would still own you on the street though, lol!

 

are you allergic to AIM?

 

Now THAT would be a good race!

Welcome home Ethan.

 

welcome back from i dont know
where the heck have u been ewok

 

Wow they actually made a turbo manifold. I must have a turbo manifold also!

 

Got tired of Magic the Gathering E-man ! .....welcome back.....but Blu owns Joo !....

 

still in shock

 

uuuuuuuuuhhhhhhuhhhhhuuuhh.....come to me....come to papa.....

 

Well at $6k and no install I can't imagine why Compared the 4th gen kits it's a tad out there for the gains they're quoting. If I put $6k into the car I'd expect to be able to run more than 5-6lbs of boost.

Maybe I'm just missing something.

 

i agree. for 7g's I could buy a '94 300ZX and modify that into a beast. makes more sense to me than to have a 13 second family sedan. I'd rather have a go fast car and a go-pretty-fast daily driver

 

Well do a little search on what this kit offers compared to the 4th gen(if you want to call it a kit).

What you're complaining about is exactly why there is no aftermarket support for maximas. This is a complete kit with everything you need for the car to run top notch and for 6k thats cheap as hell compared to other car makes. Take a look at whats included with the kit before complaining about its too expensive. PFI's kit is around 4k if I'm not mistaking...and it still has issues and doesn't come with half the parts as this kit includes.

This is not a muffler shop scrap kit guys

Ohh and who says you can't run more than 5-6 lbs of boost? and what does the 4th gen kit put down at 5 psi barely 250whp...ok enough ranting from me.

 

It's not a BMW, people aren't going to pay $10k for a Dinan supercharger.

Lets face it. People who buy Maxima's are "cheap" (as in concerned about their bang for the buck). If they weren't they'd have bought something else. So, it would seem logical that people trying to sell high priced mods will have poor sales to this market segment. You don't see people rushing out to buy $1600 Nismo cams, but at $800 for Crane cams you'll likely see more people buying cams.

The Maxima has a poor aftermarket support because of insufficient demand. Do you think Honda Civics have such a large aftermarket because the owners are willing to pay a lot of money? No, it's because there are a lot of Honda Civic owners. There is a large market potential. That does not exist for the Maxima.

The mods we're seeing for the 3.5VQ are because the engine is used in enough cars that there is now a sufficient market to be exploited and Crane, Tomei, and other companies are realizing this.

If you think $6k is "cheap as hell" then you can buy one of these kits and enjoy it. I personally don't think $6k is cheap. I don't have $6k for a Turbo kit for my car. I can think of a lot cheaper ways to go faster for $6k. I can buy several Turbo Dodge's for $6k and run 2 bar of boost on them, not 5-6 PSI.

 

I don't think Blu is saying the kit is cheap. He's saying it's fairly priced for such a complete kit.

 

let's see PFI's kit is what $4500. and you get a modifed y-pipe.
SSR's kit is $5500 to $6000 and you get exhaust manifolds and by the looks of it a sleeker looking setup.

 

sleeper is good....

 

Im done commenting....SSR make the kit $500 so everyone can buy it without complaining. Or you could match PFI's kit $4500 since some think thats reasonable even though it doesn't include
SS Turbo Manifolds, BOV, Injectors, polished IC, Fuel Management, etc etc etc....

 

I never said the PFI was affordable. I don't see people lined up to buy it either.

I know $500 isn't reasonable for a turbo kit, but regardless of what's included in the turbo kit it's not worth $6k to me or pretty much anyone else. It's only worth what someone is willing to pay. They are pricing themselves out of the market. They'd be better off leaving things out of the kit and lowering the cost since at only 5-6 PSI some of it's probably not necessary.

 

No one should really complain about the price. I am sure the kit is worth the 6k asking price in terms of items and quality. It is probably the best kit ever made for a Maxima.

And on that note I will add that I am not likely to buy the thing and not because I am cheap but because I simply cannot afford to shell out 6k at once for a car mod and I bet most of you can't either. Even though many of you people really are cheap b@stards.

 

On this point I do not agree. I think a serious mod like this should be pretty much all or nothing for those people that aren't extensively familiar with doing this kind of work. If you try to please a 'cheap b@stard' customer on price by leaving out some important ingredients they will just end up blowing up their car anyway because the half @ss setup is exactly what they asked for. Then that person will go around telling everyone else that they were sold some cheap junk. Some people just cannot be pleased no matter what you do for them. This is not to be confused with the instances where people really do get screwed and were sold cheap crap.

 

I'm still trying to figure out why you think the kit won't exceed 5-6 psi... its what they recommend just like most other turbo kits so thats what they are tuning the test kit on....its called a baseline if they get 350whp out of 5-6psi Im impressed.

 

Not everyone is going to want to run 10lbs of boost. The people running low boost won't necessarily need all the parts the guy who is running 12lbs will. Either way, they said 310WHP with 5-6lbs, not 350.

 

so over 100whp gain from 5-6psi isn't awesome gains? Anyway price other kits before you start saying there price is to high...like I said earlier this isn't a muffler shop kit this is a big name company. This is also a direct bolt up kit which is a first for maximas. Its like argueing with a brick wall if you don't want the kit don't buy it...but whats the point of whining in a thread about it cost to much. They could sell it for below cost and 99% of the people b!tching about it cost to much still wouldn't buy it.

 

All I see is a pic of turbo sitting below a starter and dangerously close to the block and radiator fan. I see no piping and it's unknown if their "special" manifolds are being used. For all I know, someone could be holding that turbo in place from below I see no piping whatsoever and that's the most complicated part about setting up a turbo/IC in the Maxima/Altima engine bays. I scanned over that thread and all I read was projected power numbers of around 310fwhp. Obviously if this setup isn't even complete then how do they know how much power it's going to make? I hope they know how to make turbo manifolds because it takes some serious engineering to develop a tubular manifold that can handle the heat stress especially when the runners are going to be really long to compensate for the turbo location. I also don't quite understand why they are saying their developing their own manifolds because it's rather pointless on a V6. It's the y-pipe that will bridge the cylinder banks together at the turbo, not the manifolds. Maybe they are confusing manifolds with Y-pipe. I wouldn't put too much faith in this until the whole thing is done and running.


Dave

 

The $3500-4500 4th gen kits come with IC, BOV, gauges, fuel management, revised y-pipe, ALL piping, and some even with a full catback and install. The manifolds aren't needed because the y-pipe is what bridges the turbo.


Dave

 

I kinda have to agree with Dave here. The kit might be almost complete but the picture is lacking almost everhthing. Unless the new manifolds are already bent and are already hooked up to the turbine inlet. The DP, charge pipes, oil in/out is not there yet. Any more pictures?

Where is this located? Below the starter? Unless the starter is way up on the tranny like a 4-gen, the turbo drain is going to be a problem. Aux pump is going to be needed.