'03 Max vs. 330ci
12-02-2003, 06:29 PM
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'03 Max vs. 330ci
Guys - i'm sure this topic may have been covered before, but since I can't use the search function - I need to ask!
can a '03 Max auto outgun a 330ci 6-speed in a straight-line?
On paper, the Max wins hands down. Any experiences out there?
thanks-looking forward to some kill stories
can a '03 Max auto outgun a 330ci 6-speed in a straight-line?
On paper, the Max wins hands down. Any experiences out there?
thanks-looking forward to some kill stories
12-02-2003, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by njmaximus
Guys - i'm sure this topic may have been covered before, but since I can't use the search function - I need to ask!
can a '03 Max auto outgun a 330ci 6-speed in a straight-line?
On paper, the Max wins hands down. Any experiences out there?
thanks-looking forward to some kill stories
can a '03 Max auto outgun a 330ci 6-speed in a straight-line?
On paper, the Max wins hands down. Any experiences out there?
thanks-looking forward to some kill stories
12-02-2003, 06:51 PM
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I dont think the AUTO maxima would win if the 330 has a good driver
You would need great traction off the line to keep up with the 330 rwd.Dont forget its a six speed so it will get better shifts and have closer gearing.
The only kill i have seen was my friend owns a stock 330ci and i saw him smoke a manual IS300 w/intake and exhaust.
If you get traction and the 330 driver is ok..it would be a very close race!..but tell us the results!!!!!
You would need great traction off the line to keep up with the 330 rwd.Dont forget its a six speed so it will get better shifts and have closer gearing.
The only kill i have seen was my friend owns a stock 330ci and i saw him smoke a manual IS300 w/intake and exhaust.
If you get traction and the 330 driver is ok..it would be a very close race!..but tell us the results!!!!!
12-02-2003, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by gsumax
i raced one on the roll about at 60 to 120, and i took him 3 times, he kept trying until he got off an exit. By the way, i have an auto and its a 2000, but i think his car was probably an auto too.
Doesn't mean I wouldn't like to try a stick 330 from a dead stop
Betcha he doesn't make me look bad...I would trade my Max any day of the week for a 330, these cars are vastly superior, rwd, handling prowess, world-class engine, etc, etc, etc.
Oh, and for whoever brought up the IS300, blah, those cars are turds. I wont even race auto IS300's, they are slugs. Stick IS300's are nice, but they cant hang either from a dig.
12-03-2003, 12:38 AM
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its a drivers race............should be close
12-03-2003, 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Ferbs02SMMax
these cars are vastly superior, rwd, handling prowess, world-class engine, etc, etc, etc.
rwd, faster, torquier, it'll outhandle the beamer, and it costs less.. cant go wrong with that
12-03-2003, 05:56 AM
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I raced a 5 speed inline 6 and i beat it so bad... i dont remember what year!! I raced a BMW 2-3 days ago from 40 mph and i beat it... it was a 2 door convertible 3 series for sure... 
12-03-2003, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Ferbs02SMMax
I would trade my Max any day of the week for a 330, these cars are vastly superior, rwd, handling prowess, world-class engine, etc, etc, etc.
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12-03-2003, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Playero
my brother in law has one and i woop his as$ all the time he keeps ****ting on his car since i can whoop his *** but he pays more than me.....
12-03-2003, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by redteg1
i totally agree with this guy. who cares about racing this and racing that...bottom line is...i'd still rather be drivng the bmw. sure the 3.0 inline 6 is very robust motor and will get you where you want to be going. its a total driving experience that is to be had here. not just brute straight line acceleration.
Couldn't agree more...
12-03-2003, 06:51 AM
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I would never trade my Maxima for a 330ci. I fail to see anything superior about them except for the RWD and handling. BMW quality is really no better than Nissan but the repair costs are much higher. My preferences tell me not to pay more money for a smaller, slower car. And I couldn't stand having the second best 330 knowing the M3 is out there rolling around.
12-03-2003, 06:55 AM
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Don't mean to rain on your parade, but how about some numbers here? I'm not saying all of you guys are wrong, just that.....oh wait, I AM saying you guys are wrong.
From Car and Driver:
0-60
BMW: 5.6
Max: 6.4
1320
BMW: 14.3
Max 15.0
Keep in mind that those numbers are stick vs stick. The Max will lose .2-.5s in the quarter when you use an auto instead.
In summation, the Maxima gets spanked. Hard.
From Car and Driver:
0-60
BMW: 5.6
Max: 6.4
1320
BMW: 14.3
Max 15.0
Keep in mind that those numbers are stick vs stick. The Max will lose .2-.5s in the quarter when you use an auto instead.
In summation, the Maxima gets spanked. Hard.
12-03-2003, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by SR20DEN
I would never trade my Maxima for a 330ci. I fail to see anything superior about them except for the RWD and handling. BMW quality is really no better than Nissan but the repair costs are much higher. My preferences tell me not to pay more money for a smaller, slower car. And I couldn't stand having the second best 330 knowing the M3 is out there rolling around.
12-03-2003, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by SR20DEN
I fail to see anything superior about them except for the RWD and handling. BMW quality is really no better than Nissan but the repair costs are much higher.
The Maxima is a nice car, but let's not fool ourselves. There are much nicer cars out there, and the Germans make them.
12-03-2003, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by mirror70
Don't mean to rain on your parade, but how about some numbers here? I'm not saying all of you guys are wrong, just that.....oh wait, I AM saying you guys are wrong.
From Car and Driver:
0-60
BMW: 5.6
Max: 6.4
1320
BMW: 14.3
Max 15.0
Keep in mind that those numbers are stick vs stick. The Max will lose .2-.5s in the quarter when you use an auto instead.
In summation, the Maxima gets spanked. Hard.
From Car and Driver:
0-60
BMW: 5.6
Max: 6.4
1320
BMW: 14.3
Max 15.0
Keep in mind that those numbers are stick vs stick. The Max will lose .2-.5s in the quarter when you use an auto instead.
In summation, the Maxima gets spanked. Hard.
Stock 5th gen 6 speed Maximas are capable of 14.3s.
And YOU are the one who is wrong. Bring any stock 330 toa track and put it up against a stock 5th gen 6 speed Maxima and see the proof for yourself.
12-03-2003, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by mirror70
As an owner of both, I can tell you with certainty that the BMW is better than the Maxima in every regard, except the size of the backseat.
The Maxima is a nice car, but let's not fool ourselves. There are much nicer cars out there, and the Germans make them.
The Maxima is a nice car, but let's not fool ourselves. There are much nicer cars out there, and the Germans make them.
I hate germans cars are expensive and they are slow too... I just like VW GTI's especially the anniversary edition...
12-03-2003, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by SR20DEN
Stock 5th gen 6 speed Maximas are capable of 14.3s.
What you're saying is that a Maxima which is faster than the one in question (in the original post) can, with an excellent driver, match the time of the BMW? You are also saying that the Maxima is the only car that they give a slower than best time for - the BMW's time is dead nuts accurate?
Who has some timeslips from stock auto Maximas? Don't just blindly say the numebrs are wrong - prove it.
Looks like the Maxima also takes 25% longer to stop from 70. Are you guys starting to see where the BMW's extra cost comes from?
I know, I know - I'm going to be branded as a troll because I brought some truth to the table and my post count isn't as high as the true racing heros here.
12-03-2003, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by GreekMaxima
I agree with you!!! why are you gonna pay 35k dollars for a slow car? you can buy a nice 6 speed max with leather near to $30k and it is a lot of faster than bmw... max has leather, bose and more... i dont understand why...
12-03-2003, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by mirror70
That's almost a valid point. Almost.
What you're saying is that a Maxima which is faster than the one in question (in the original post) can, with an excellent driver, match the time of the BMW? You are also saying that the Maxima is the only car that they give a slower than best time for - the BMW's time is dead nuts accurate?
Who has some timeslips from stock auto Maximas? Don't just blindly say the numebrs are wrong - prove it.
Looks like the Maxima also takes 25% longer to stop from 70. Are you guys starting to see where the BMW's extra cost comes from?
I know, I know - I'm going to be branded as a troll because I brought some truth to the table and my post count isn't as high as the true racing heros here.
What you're saying is that a Maxima which is faster than the one in question (in the original post) can, with an excellent driver, match the time of the BMW? You are also saying that the Maxima is the only car that they give a slower than best time for - the BMW's time is dead nuts accurate?
Who has some timeslips from stock auto Maximas? Don't just blindly say the numebrs are wrong - prove it.
Looks like the Maxima also takes 25% longer to stop from 70. Are you guys starting to see where the BMW's extra cost comes from?
I know, I know - I'm going to be branded as a troll because I brought some truth to the table and my post count isn't as high as the true racing heros here.
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12-03-2003, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by CoolMax
If could, I'd spend $100k on an S-class even if the Maxima outperforms it.
: A luxury cruiser that comfortably seats 3 6footers in the back, that will run an 11.7 with a chip as its only mod.....gotta love the new S600.
12-03-2003, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by SR20DEN
Stock 5th gen 6 speed Maximas are capable of 14.3s.
And YOU are the one who is wrong. Bring any stock 330 toa track and put it up against a stock 5th gen 6 speed Maxima and see the proof for yourself.
How many Maximas are hitting 14.3? Are are of them on the .org?
I'd like to see how many BMWs post low times on their board.
12-03-2003, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by MaDdFLaSheR
heh get a g35 rwd, faster, torquier, it'll outhandle the beamer, and it costs less.. cant go wrong with that
rwd, faster, torquier, it'll outhandle the beamer, and it costs less.. cant go wrong with thatIMO there is really nothing outstanding about a BMW, besides the price....There are tons of other makes out there that offer more bang for the buck...
If I were to pay that much for a car (no roomier than a civic/corolla), I too would say its a great car....don't want to look like a fool now do I
12-03-2003, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by mirror70
:: A luxury cruiser that comfortably seats 3 6footers in the back, that will run an 11.7 with a chip as its only mod.....gotta love the new S600.
: A luxury cruiser that comfortably seats 3 6footers in the back, that will run an 11.7 with a chip as its only mod.....gotta love the new S600.But my point is that even if it is a "mere" S500 and the Max smokes it all day, I don't care.
12-03-2003, 07:21 AM
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Blubyu2k2 has a timeslip from a stock auto Maxima. 14.66 @ 93.xx
And no I did not say the mag numbers for the BMW were correct either. Knowing how far off the magazine numbers are for all the vehicles I have had I know to assume they're wrong for the other vehicles as well. I also did not say that a stock auto 5th gen VQ35 Maxima would beat a stock E46 330 6 speed. But in 90% of all interactions on the highway and probably 80% on the 1/4 mile I believe the 6 speed A33 Maxima is quicker and faster.
Yes there is more to going fast than just in a straight line and that is not why the BMW costs more. The cost difference is mainly due to tarrifs, shipping and economic differences. In Germany there is probably little to no cost difference between the two and I would probably be driving a M3.
And no I did not say the mag numbers for the BMW were correct either. Knowing how far off the magazine numbers are for all the vehicles I have had I know to assume they're wrong for the other vehicles as well. I also did not say that a stock auto 5th gen VQ35 Maxima would beat a stock E46 330 6 speed. But in 90% of all interactions on the highway and probably 80% on the 1/4 mile I believe the 6 speed A33 Maxima is quicker and faster.
Yes there is more to going fast than just in a straight line and that is not why the BMW costs more. The cost difference is mainly due to tarrifs, shipping and economic differences. In Germany there is probably little to no cost difference between the two and I would probably be driving a M3.
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