For you non-believers (post is picture intense)
Here are pictures of the 4th gen rotors vs. 5th gen rotors
Top rotor is my 5th gen rotor while the bottom one is the 4th gen
<img src=http://fp.geocities.com/y2kevse/images/brakes1/1a.jpg>
Left side 4th gen, right side 5th gen. Yes, the two rotors are flat against each other. Notice how much thicker the 5th gen rotor is. There must be a reason why Nissan made our rotors larger then the 4th gen's. <b>Suggestion... don't listen to Stillen if they say the 4th gen rotors will fit on the 5th gen</b>.
<img src=http://fp.geocities.com/y2kevse/images/brakes1/2a.jpg>
Measurement of the 5th gen rotor
<img src=http://fp.geocities.com/y2kevse/images/brakes1/3a.jpg>
Measurement with the 5th gen rotor. Notice the micrometer is from 1" to 2"
<img src=http://fp.geocities.com/y2kevse/images/brakes1/4a.jpg>
Top rotor is my 5th gen rotor while the bottom one is the 4th gen
<img src=http://fp.geocities.com/y2kevse/images/brakes1/1a.jpg>
Left side 4th gen, right side 5th gen. Yes, the two rotors are flat against each other. Notice how much thicker the 5th gen rotor is. There must be a reason why Nissan made our rotors larger then the 4th gen's. <b>Suggestion... don't listen to Stillen if they say the 4th gen rotors will fit on the 5th gen</b>.
<img src=http://fp.geocities.com/y2kevse/images/brakes1/2a.jpg>
Measurement of the 5th gen rotor
<img src=http://fp.geocities.com/y2kevse/images/brakes1/3a.jpg>
Measurement with the 5th gen rotor. Notice the micrometer is from 1" to 2"
<img src=http://fp.geocities.com/y2kevse/images/brakes1/4a.jpg>
Measurement with the 4th gen rotor. Notice the micrometer is from 0" - 1"
<img src=http://fp.geocities.com/y2kevse/images/brakes1/5a.jpg>
A closeup of the 4th gen rotor measurement
<img src=http://fp.geocities.com/y2kevse/images/brakes1/6a.jpg>
Would you want to use a thinner rotor on the 5th gen? I don't know what would happen if you do, but Nissan made our rotors thicker for some reason (maybe because our cars are heavier?).
<img src=http://fp.geocities.com/y2kevse/images/brakes1/5a.jpg>
A closeup of the 4th gen rotor measurement
<img src=http://fp.geocities.com/y2kevse/images/brakes1/6a.jpg>
Would you want to use a thinner rotor on the 5th gen? I don't know what would happen if you do, but Nissan made our rotors thicker for some reason (maybe because our cars are heavier?).
If the pics don't work, here is the link to look at the them... http://www.geocities.com/y2kevse/images/brakes1
Originally posted by Y2KevSE
If the pics don't work, here is the link to look at the them... http://www.geocities.com/y2kevse/images/brakes1
If the pics don't work, here is the link to look at the them... http://www.geocities.com/y2kevse/images/brakes1
Good Job Kev!
Originally posted by mdeal
So, are you saying the drilled rotors Stillen is offering us today are really the thinner, 4th Gen variety?
So, are you saying the drilled rotors Stillen is offering us today are really the thinner, 4th Gen variety?
If someone does call up Stillen about the brakes, please ask if they have 5th gen rotors yet. If they say yes, ask them about the thickness. They'll probably transfer you to the brakes department. Just make sure the thickness is over 1".
Was it the Romans or the Greeks that believed that women had more teeth than men... until someone got the bright idea to count them!
Don't beleive the hype. I think this just adds to Stillens worstening reputation for poor service and even poorer recomendations.
Don't beleive the hype. I think this just adds to Stillens worstening reputation for poor service and even poorer recomendations.
Originally posted by Paul2kGXE
Am I reading the micrometer right? (I've never used one)
1.20 inches for the 5th gen rotor
.8.20 for the 4th gen rotor
Am I reading the micrometer right? (I've never used one)
1.20 inches for the 5th gen rotor
.8.20 for the 4th gen rotor
Re: then why are 5th gens having problems with
1) It may be from the overtorquing of bolts.
2) While the 5th gen rotors are thicker, it may not be thick enough.
2) While the 5th gen rotors are thicker, it may not be thick enough.
Originally posted by Confused
warped rotors @ 12k? ((((this is a q, not a flame)))
warped rotors @ 12k? ((((this is a q, not a flame)))
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Are the calipers and pads the same size?
Are they interchangable? Ie will they bolt up to a 4th?
Since the 5 Gen is a heavier car, perhaps that is the reason for the size increase.
Matt P.
Since the 5 Gen is a heavier car, perhaps that is the reason for the size increase.
Matt P.
Originally posted by yo_its_ok
I like my factory brakes w/ my factory pads. They smell like rotten eggs or someone farted when I cook them on a 100-0 session on DPA, but they work fine.
Seen too many 4th Gen Rotors, and 5th Gen Rotors, they all look the same to me, only difference is the pad size and caliper size. Yes Bigger is Better.
Brett: You know how it is with 1st Year Production Cars. Always problems. Wondering if any of the 2001 owners have any complaints..yet ?
-Peace
I like my factory brakes w/ my factory pads. They smell like rotten eggs or someone farted when I cook them on a 100-0 session on DPA, but they work fine.
Seen too many 4th Gen Rotors, and 5th Gen Rotors, they all look the same to me, only difference is the pad size and caliper size. Yes Bigger is Better.
Brett: You know how it is with 1st Year Production Cars. Always problems. Wondering if any of the 2001 owners have any complaints..yet ?
-Peace
Re: Are the calipers and pads the same size?
[/QUOTE]
Are they interchangable? Ie will they bolt up to a 4th?
Since the 5 Gen is a heavier car, perhaps that is the reason for the size increase.
Matt P.
-Peace [/QUOTE] [/I][/QUOTE]
I while back I looked at the specs in the service manual and compared the 99 and 2K, what I found is that the brake pads are the same for 99 and 2K, rear rotors are the same, as for the front calipers they would have to be wider since the 2K front rotor is wider.
Are they interchangable? Ie will they bolt up to a 4th?
Since the 5 Gen is a heavier car, perhaps that is the reason for the size increase.
Matt P.
-Peace [/QUOTE] [/I][/QUOTE]
I while back I looked at the specs in the service manual and compared the 99 and 2K, what I found is that the brake pads are the same for 99 and 2K, rear rotors are the same, as for the front calipers they would have to be wider since the 2K front rotor is wider.
Kev ... what are your thoughts on Shing's brake deal 4 the 5th Gen? EOM
Originally posted by Y2KevSE
You are correct, + or - a few hundredths.
Originally posted by Paul2kGXE
Am I reading the micrometer right? (I've never used one)
1.20 inches for the 5th gen rotor
.8.20 for the 4th gen rotor
Am I reading the micrometer right? (I've never used one)
1.20 inches for the 5th gen rotor
.8.20 for the 4th gen rotor
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