If you have HID's your going to get flashed from time to time. Even if its just 4300K, thats when you hi-beam them for real

dejavu?

 

Yup ! Freakin ***ggss with halogens !

 

I don't get flashed when I have the low beam xenon's on. The kit that I bought like IGOR's is a "retro fit" kit that puts HID into a halogen housing. I'm worried about the glare on the fogs. No problem with the low beams. I have those adjusted good and tight with a good cut off. But when I'm on there a** and they don't get over

 

Talking about **ggss and their halogens, aren't your fog lights halogens like mine?

 

I know what your talking about, I have HID's in my fogs too The fogs should be about as bright as the headlights since both are at 35watt. I dont know if hes running d2s in them as well so

 

Yes I do, but ask anyone that has HID fogs...they are basically for just BLING....they dont accomplish much...

 

I'm just trying to even things out. The xenons look good and then you look down at the dingy yellow fog lights and the look like something out of ragged out pontiac grand prix. But then again I don't want to blind everyone as well. Also any problems with your 19's. I did 18's cause i was afraid of blowing tires in pot holes. The roads aren't the best in Arkansas.

 

if you get good tires, chances of blowing tires are less likely. Tons of potholes here.

 

I dont know how useful Igors fog kit is, but mine are just for bling to be honest. They are only the 21w H3 kit so im not running d2r/d2s bulbs in them. I was actually thinking about upgrading them to valeo projectors. IF they are a true 35watt setup (especially projectors) then combined with the headlights they should accomplish something. You cant really aim them high, but if you aim them say at 1ft from 25-40ft away you should be fine. Only problem is you cant really aim them correctly w/o rewiring your fogs to go on w/o the headlights. If you aim them any higher, then it should actually have a beam pattern that will strike the eye...but thats from far away (1/4mile + ) which will acutally look sick. If up close the beam is too close to the ground and I dont think it will stike the eye so bottom line is. I Dont think you have anything to worry about, just aim them correctly.

 

why would my fogs not be effective?

They light up the road better than my headlights

 

Im not saying they arnt. I didnt want to say something for you when my setup is not the same as your. My fogs are at only 21watts, they look nice & add bling...thats all. It just adds to the beam pattern & I basically look at them as hot spots. MINE done accomplish anything but bling. I said since your are 35w, they should be just as effective as your headlights, therefor...they should be effective Im not trying to talk down about your setup man, your HID setup is sick. Not exactly a brand of my personal choice, but that doesnt make it junk. Regardless the look sweet & im sure it puts out more then enough light on the road.

 

I have 6000K KOPS D2S bulbs and I'm pretty happy with them so far.

J.

 

There's never "enough" light on the road

 

there isnt. Sometime next year im planning up upgrading mine to projectors on top & bottom and leave them both at 4300K since that puts out the most light, but since its still projecots im gonna have the blue/purple look If it was up to me, id honestly want to put Hi/Low hid's in the low beam, the high beam and the fogs. Will I do it... for now im more then happy and dont plan on it.

 

Those Bohmen D2R bulbs, let's say 8000k, do they look purple and white depending on angle you are looking at or are they all out purple?

 

Well...im not really sure. Every brand is diff in some ways. Ive seen some brands "claim" to be at a certain Kalvin rating which isnt always true. One thing that ive noticed is the high quality brands dont make anything higher the 6500K.

The 8000K im guessing will be of a bluish color, but keep in mind that the higher the kalvin rating the more light output your going to lose. Thats why I like projectors so much. They have the color of 6000K but they are only 4100-4300K which is the closest match to the color of sunlight. Those are the brightest and put out around 3400 lumens.
Once you get to around 6000K the lumens output drops to around 2600 (still more then double of most halogens)
Once you get into the dumb kalvin rating (over 8000K) its pretty much useless to have hids then. Some brands go upto 12000K which I personally think is dumb. Its like having a large LED

 

You can't get that effect from a regular reflector setup, you need a projector.

 

Yeah I think thats what I meant to say

 

BS, total BS..I saw Igor's Fogs and his are brighter then his headlights..i am sure he could use them by themselves without the headlights

 

I use them w/o my headlights and they work great lol

BTW- I working on getting you some headlight replacement capsules like we talked about....I'll keep you posted

 

I think what kloogy meant to say was this (well if he didn't mean to say it, then this is what I think):

HID Fogs are useless in FOGGY conditions...the way fog lights are 'aimed' is downward and directly in front of your car...it's purpose is to cut through fog and trust me, if you have HIDs or have been in a car with HIDs in the fog you will see that is it actually detremental in seeing conditions. The white light the HIDs produce reflects off the fog making it look like a big whire cloud in front of you and you can't see through it making it very dangerous. Ever use high beams in fog?

The halogen fogs cut through better because it has a more yellower color and yellow fogs are ideal for foggy conditions

But now if you live in an area where it's never foggy, then you don't need this and can get the "bling" HID fogs...but I am sure the guy in front of you driving is going to be pi$$ed at 4 different HIDs blinding him or the guy coming in the opposite direction.

This is why I want to make my fogs functional and get yellow fogs (not piaa ions) and I am going to have to ask a board member about it

 

Bohmen makes 12k rating. So that's just all show off of color huh

 

yup

and many of the kits that say 12000k or some crazy number aren't even really that rating but that is irrelevant and it's not always the higher the better, and like someone said before, the quality kits don't come higher than 6000k and mostly come 4100k-4300k

 

Is Osram a known company?

 

Sylvania is Osram in NA (Osram Sylvania is the full name)
http://www.sylvania.com/

but i havent really heard much about their HID kits (i think it's called xenarc) but Sylvania is very reputable

 

I have the Bohmen 12,000k. IMO, they are the sickest HIDs I've ever seen. They give off a deep purple/blue color. As for light output, they are a lot brighter than when I first got them (1.5 months ago) but about half as bright as stock. They sometimes look like the put out a lot of light b/c they make everything on the road, no matter how far away, look purple.

 

12,000K gives out less lumins than a regular halogen bulb... kinda defeats the idea of hid systems in general... Also rain visibility is basicaly not there

-James

 

I need to be able to see the road well especially in rain.

 

You're right about the visibility in the rain, but these HIDs make street signs look like they're "glowing purple" from like a mile away. Downside: I need my fogs on in the rain. Upside: I'll never miss a street sign.

 

Thats because 12k is made for looks not for use.

That's why my 6k are 2x brighter than stock.

 

hahaha, if that's the look your going for, it's quite unique, and catches eyes very well. I've seen some driving around and you definately look right at it. Theres a company currently working on yellow hid bulbs, hopefully to be re-based on H3's. You might want to think that way when they come out. Yellow against the purple would stand out amazingly, and the yellow would then help you out bigtime in the rain.

 

Igor, who are you kidding (2x brighter than stock). My previous HIDs were the 6000k KOPS also, I thought they were bright for the first two-three months but after that, my parking lights looked brighter than the KOPS did.

Ammi, if you want to to get a quality HID kit that provides both, good light and a nice color, then dig deep into your pockets and buy some Phillips 6000Ks. You won't regret it.

 

You had the defective ones then...I since had a replacement and they still work great. Ask Jeepik, he saw them this weekend and now he wants a set.

Yes, Phillips are on ebay for around 250$ a set

 

Its a fact that anything over 4500k has less lumens that a stock HID system. Its silly to say that you have more output when the fact its you have less, much less than a stock D2R. Yes they look better...there is no guessing about that. But its a FACT that your bulbs or any others even the Philips Ultinons have less output than stock. If you want to know more about this subject so you dont look like a fool, check out HIDforum.com. A few other org members are on the board as well.

 

6000k is the most brightest/whitest output...it was stated on your hidforum site...

 

Igor, you're wrong bro. 6000k is probably the the brightest/whitest stage II hid, but they are NOT brighter than stock.

 

Hamy is right here and I'll dispute it with anyone.

4300K = 3200 lumens (+/-)
6000K = 2800 lumens (+/-)

Can't refute that.

There is no where on HID form that says that 6000K has greater lumens than a 4300K.

 

Would a 9007 D2R bulb fit the 2k2 housing?

 

9007 D2r is two differnt things... 9007 is a rebased bulb to fit into a 9007 housing... you need a regular based d2r bulb to fit into a 2002 housing

 

you guys can crack on him all you want...Igor's lights are considerably brighter then the stock lights...i dont need numbers to tell me that..i saw that myself with my eyes