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Old 12-19-2003, 10:44 AM
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PhantonGrip LSD conv. kit

Has anybody without a LSD thought of doing this. They have two types one for manuals and one for autos.


http://www.phantomgrip.com/product_l...p?make=Nissan#
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Im interested but I have other mods I want to do first. Also what other parts would I need or is everthing included?

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Has anybody without a LSD thought of doing this. They have two types one for manuals and one for autos.


http://www.phantomgrip.com/product_l...p?make=Nissan#
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How do I know if I have a LSD or not?
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Originally Posted by PWRLFT
How do I know if I have a LSD or not?
what year do you have I know 00's don't have a LSD 01's have it in the AE I don't know about non AE's and I think all 02-03's 6spd's have them and don't know about 02-03 auto's.
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Old 12-19-2003, 11:33 AM
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i got an 03 auto.
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This is pretty much similar to what I got done custom. But that plate looks cheap. Mine was of much higher quality and all the gears were cryo treated.

Now to do this on the manual you got to get the differential out of the 5spd which takes about 20mins once you got the tranny out.

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Originally Posted by PWRLFT
i got an 03 auto.
Only some 02/03 6 speeds have it. You're SOL.
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Only some 02/03 6 speeds have it. You're SOL.
ouch, well would that thing above stop massive wheel spin when it's raining out? I don't know if both wheels are spinning or if it's just one. If they are both spinning then I don't think it will help much?

What do you think?
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What is an lcd????
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To tell if you have LSD on a 6speed is to check and see if you have the silver looking race pedals instead of the normal black. The silver race pedals came with the LSD while the black ones came with the 6speeds without the LSD.
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I could definately use LSD. I'll probably wait until I pay off my car to do it though. Cuz I'm broke.
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What is this?? and what does it do??
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Originally Posted by PearlWhtMaX2000
What is this?? and what does it do??
A limited slip differential distributes the torque evenly to the drive wheels. With an open differential configuration, the wheel with the least amount of traction provides the forward thrust. I'm sure you've heard the term Posi-trac, its the same thing. The great benefit of this system is the ability to power out of a tight corner with LSD, where an open differential car would light up the inside tire. Its also helpful in moving away from a stop in very slippery conditions.
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Originally Posted by Fezzik
To tell if you have LSD on a 6speed is to check and see if you have the silver looking race pedals instead of the normal black. The silver race pedals came with the LSD while the black ones came with the 6speeds without the LSD.
I am pretty sure that all 2k2-2k3 6 speed have LSD, but only some come with HLSD....the ones with the pedals have HLSD.
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Originally Posted by Bulldawg
I am pretty sure that all 2k2-2k3 6 speed have LSD, but only some come with HLSD....the ones with the pedals have HLSD.
No, the only LSD available is the HLSD. As you mentioned, it only came on some 2k2/3s.
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Originally Posted by Jaws
No, the only LSD available is the HLSD. As you mentioned, it only came on some 2k2/3s.

I think I am going to get this once I get my stage II VB Mod and get it all done at the same time.
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2K1 AE 5-speeds had VLSD (Viscous Limited Slip Differential)
2K2-2K3's 6-speeds with AE pedals have HLSD (Hellical Limited Slip Differential)
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Originally Posted by Jaws
No, the only LSD available is the HLSD. As you mentioned, it only came on some 2k2/3s.

So, what is a good test to see if you have LSD other than the pedals? I have always understood it, that if when accel. hard if you leave two tire tracks, then you have LSD. and when accel. hard around a turn if you leave two then you have HLSD. Is there a better test? Because last time I was at the track I had both tires spinning on the launch, and I don't have AE pedals
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Originally Posted by Bulldawg
So, what is a good test to see if you have LSD other than the pedals? I have always understood it, that if when accel. hard if you leave two tire tracks, then you have LSD. and when accel. hard around a turn if you leave two then you have HLSD. Is there a better test? Because last time I was at the track I had both tires spinning on the launch, and I don't have AE pedals

turn ur wheel to either side while doing a burn out and only one will spin. my car does the same in a straight line and i dont have HLSD.

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It's pretty funny that some of you guys don't even know if you have it or not, wouldn't care either way if someone had not told you, yet would want it if someone told you that it's something that can be added on to the car.

No particular offense to anyone, just an observation. Why not just leave the differential alone.
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I got a Phantom Grip in my ride, trying to fit my HS headers off a 3.5 and dynoing it... TechnoSquare is getting my spare ECU reprogrammed... and then the stroked 3.0 is going in.
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Originally Posted by mjg
It's pretty funny that some of you guys don't even know if you have it or not, wouldn't care either way if someone had not told you, yet would want it if someone told you that it's something that can be added on to the car.

No particular offense to anyone, just an observation. Why not just leave the differential alone.
For one I know that I don't have a LSD and I want to know if anybody has one. Which was my question. I want one cause I want traction to both wheels instead of one since and it would really help in the snow.
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Originally Posted by BlackBIRDVQ
I got a Phantom Grip in my ride, trying to fit my HS headers off a 3.5 and dynoing it... TechnoSquare is getting my spare ECU reprogrammed... and then the stroked 3.0 is going in.
is there a considerable difference with the phantom grip than without? how long have you had it on?
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Does it work for 2k3 autos? Would it fit right?
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Originally Posted by 97MaximaGLE
Does it work for 2k3 autos? Would it fit right?
That you would have to ask them. All I know is that it says 95+.
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I have the GREEN SPRING setup in my Maxima, and I must say I have much higher confidence in this LSD than a AE 5spd I just drove not too long ago. It might be cause I am on Ground Controls and Konis vs stock suspension, plus my tires are 245-45-17 Azenis on Enkei RPO1s vs stock AE tires/wheels. I can power out of the turns quickly without a hint of wheel spin. I used to be able to push the front end out when entering power on into the turn and would end up understeering like crazy. Now the car just rips through the corner pretty well. I'm trying to build a pretty good overall performance sedan with enough power for the suspension/brakes to handle. I got JIC Magics on the way so I will need to hurry up on the 3.6L buildup. There are 2 diff types of springs that U can get with the PhantomGrip, I got the green springs which are the most hardcore of all. I love it, install took me little to no time
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Old 12-22-2003, 05:46 AM
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No, the only LSD available is the HLSD. As you mentioned, it only came on some 2k2/3s.
2K2 and 2K3 6 spds had VLSD (Viscous Limited Slip Differential) stock. HLSD was the upgrade to that.
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Originally Posted by BlackBIRDVQ
I have the GREEN SPRING setup in my Maxima, and I must say I have much higher confidence in this LSD than a AE 5spd I just drove not too long ago. It might be cause I am on Ground Controls and Konis vs stock suspension, plus my tires are 245-45-17 Azenis on Enkei RPO1s vs stock AE tires/wheels. I can power out of the turns quickly without a hint of wheel spin. I used to be able to push the front end out when entering power on into the turn and would end up understeering like crazy. Now the car just rips through the corner pretty well. I'm trying to build a pretty good overall performance sedan with enough power for the suspension/brakes to handle. I got JIC Magics on the way so I will need to hurry up on the 3.6L buildup. There are 2 diff types of springs that U can get with the PhantomGrip, I got the green springs which are the most hardcore of all. I love it, install took me little to no time
Could you notice a difference in the amount of torque steer after you installed the LSD? If it reduces torque steer, I would consider buying one. Does the install require a lift, or can it be done with only a jack and jack stands?
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Definetely helps torque steer and wheel hop cause it forces both tires to spin instead of one wheel hopping and causing torque steer.

BTW the install is not a simple put it on jacks and pop something in. You gotta open the tranny up, so that means dropping the tranny and then taking out the diff and installing the sandwich adapter inside the diff. Then sealing up the tranny and reinstall the tranny.

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Anyone had any experinces with the auto "treme" version of the PG LSD?
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Old 12-22-2003, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Lumbee1
2K2 and 2K3 6 spds had VLSD (Viscous Limited Slip Differential) stock. HLSD was the upgrade to that.
I am 100% certain that they only LSD available on the 2k2/3s is the HLSD - if a gen 5.5 does not have a HLSD, then it has an open diff. The VLSD was available on the AE editions and earlier Canadian spec cars.
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id dont get it if i add the lasd convresion kit its allows me t put the lsd in or it is the lsd?
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If you put this conversion piece in IT IS then LSD. Nothing more needed.
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Originally Posted by Jaws
A limited slip differential distributes the torque evenly to the drive wheels. With an open differential configuration, the wheel with the least amount of traction provides the forward thrust. I'm sure you've heard the term Posi-trac, its the same thing. The great benefit of this system is the ability to power out of a tight corner with LSD, where an open differential car would light up the inside tire. Its also helpful in moving away from a stop in very slippery conditions.
ohhhhhh so basically it is posi?? how much is install usually??
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Originally Posted by BlackBIRDVQ
I have the GREEN SPRING setup in my Maxima, and I must say I have much higher confidence in this LSD than a AE 5spd I just drove not too long ago. It might be cause I am on Ground Controls and Konis vs stock suspension, plus my tires are 245-45-17 Azenis on Enkei RPO1s vs stock AE tires/wheels. I can power out of the turns quickly without a hint of wheel spin. I used to be able to push the front end out when entering power on into the turn and would end up understeering like crazy. Now the car just rips through the corner pretty well. I'm trying to build a pretty good overall performance sedan with enough power for the suspension/brakes to handle. I got JIC Magics on the way so I will need to hurry up on the 3.6L buildup. There are 2 diff types of springs that U can get with the PhantomGrip, I got the green springs which are the most hardcore of all. I love it, install took me little to no time
BlackBird are your tranny 5sp right?Cause I don't think they had one for the 6sp yet.
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Mine is a 3.0L GXE 5spd 2001 vintage, but I'm building up a 3.6L motor out of a 3.0L. I got projects all over the place and my own engine gets pushed aside for other engine swaps. Just got a G20 and put a SR20DET into it.
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Damn In That Case Where Can I Get One?
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you can get one directly from PhantomGrip.com for 299 bux, add in 29 bux for the spring kit- which comes with the normal Gold springs, or the hardcore GREEN springs. Since I like road racing my car and auto crossing it, I decided to just leave the green springs in- don't feel like taking the tranny out and taking it apart to install new springs before every race ! I can't tell ya what the milder GOLD springs feel like, at the next Nissan meet here in IL if anyone wants to feel the diff kickn, ya can feel it personally.
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