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Old 01-06-2004 | 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by sorcereur
If you can't afford the gas, you can't afford the car.

I must be the only one who doesn't care for gas prices. I only get 93octane, unless 92 is the max at that gas station. I don't even know how much gas is around my town. I NEVER look at gas prices. Unless it's more than i usually pay when fill up.
It costs me about $25 to fill up. $28 if DTE has been saying ---- for 30+ miles
Any more than $28 or less than $25 to fill up when empty and i know that gas prices changed.
I don't care for the company name neither (BP, amoco, kagaroo, or wutever the freak). As long as it's not a mom and pop shop that has like 1 or 2 pumps, i don't care. They all get gas from the same place. When i need gas, i just look for the closest station and pull in and fill up with 93. I don't even look at the price on the board. I try to save money everywhere that's necessary, but i also know that if i properly maintain her, i'll save time and money in the long run. Just in case i keep her for a while. You waste more gas trying to find the cheapest station, than if you fill up right then and there and go on about your business.
It cost me $23 to fill up in Atlanta this past weekend, so i know that gas is cheaper than my hometown. But i don't know how much it cost me per gallon, and i don't care. I know that i covered 400+ miles and still have about 120miles left on the tank according to my trip computer. Try doing that with 87 gas.

You guys are too cheap, or stingy. I guess i shouldn't change my mobil 1 synthetic oil, and filter, at 3000 miles intervals either.
I'm reading over your post, and I can't seem to find any factual claims that 93 is better than 87.

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Old 01-06-2004 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by SkylineGTR
I'm reading over your post, and I can't seem to find any factual claims that 93 is better than 87.

TK
How about this...... Show a 2k2 or 2k3 maxima that will take you 490miles on the tank filled with 87 octane. Or one that will take you 400+ miles and show you a DTE of 120 on a tank filled with 87.

Both above scenarios have been achieved by my car on 93 octane. The last scenario was achieved 01/04/2004. Many others on this forum have gotten such good numbers.
These are facts.

IMO, just the peace of mind is worth the extra money sometimes.
Old 01-06-2004 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by sorcereur
How about this...... Show a 2k2 or 2k3 maxima that will take you 490miles on the tank filled with 87 octane. Or one that will take you 400+ miles and show you a DTE of 120 on a tank filled with 87.

Both above scenarios have been achieved by my car on 93 octane. The last scenario was achieved 01/04/2004. Many others on this forum have gotten such good numbers.
These are facts.

IMO, just the peace of mind is worth the extra money sometimes.
I don't buy it. I am able to easily achieve 750 km + on a tank of regular gas, and have found no difference whatsoever in fuel economy between reg and prem gas (and have used multiple tanks of each back to back). The use of premium will certainly make a car faster, but i fail to see the connection between octane rating and fuel economy.
Old 01-06-2004 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaws
I don't buy it. I am able to easily achieve 750 km + on a tank of regular gas, and have found no difference whatsoever in fuel economy between reg and prem gas (and have used multiple tanks of each back to back). The use of premium will certainly make a car faster, but i fail to see the connection between octane rating and fuel economy.
you must be leasing your car.......
Old 01-06-2004 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by MannyNJ2k2max
you must be leasing your car.......
The oil companies have done a great job at telling the motoring public that premium fuel is required, and why not, 10% more revenue. Again, as per Nissan, premium fuel is not required (yeah, I'm one of the few people who actually read the owners' manual). I do notice that hot summer days do produce slight pinging under load, and for those instances I do run premium because it annoys me and makes the car sound like its labouring. And please tell me what damage a little pinging can cause? I have yet to get a valid answer from anyone, just BS. BTW, I am not against anyone who runs premium fuel because they notice more power, but saying that running regular will cause damage or reduced fuel economy is false IMO. If the vehicle manufacturer states the premium is REQUIRED, absolutely it should be used (ie all cars with FI).
Old 01-07-2004 | 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaws
The oil companies have done a great job at telling the motoring public that premium fuel is required, and why not, 10% more revenue. Again, as per Nissan, premium fuel is not required (yeah, I'm one of the few people who actually read the owners' manual). I do notice that hot summer days do produce slight pinging under load, and for those instances I do run premium because it annoys me and makes the car sound like its labouring. And please tell me what damage a little pinging can cause? I have yet to get a valid answer from anyone, just BS. BTW, I am not against anyone who runs premium fuel because they notice more power, but saying that running regular will cause damage or reduced fuel economy is false IMO. If the vehicle manufacturer states the premium is REQUIRED, absolutely it should be used (ie all cars with FI).
The oil companies don't specify the fuel recommendations. The carmakers decide what should be used in their engines. The oil comapny makes the money from the sale of high octane while carmakers just get money from the sale of the vehicle. I read the owner's manual too. It says that you should use high octane for maximum performance. It is only a recommendation and not a requirement.
Old 01-07-2004 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by charliekilo3
The oil companies don't specify the fuel recommendations. The carmakers decide what should be used in their engines. The oil comapny makes the money from the sale of high octane while carmakers just get money from the sale of the vehicle. I read the owner's manual too. It says that you should use high octane for maximum performance. It is only a recommendation and not a requirement.

You misunderstood me. Shell for instance, advertises the fact that by using Gold gas, you will have better power, less emissions, etc. This is a somewhat misleading statement since the vast majority of cars are manufactured to run on 87 octance, and putting in 93 octane will do nothing but add to the coffers of the oil companies. Oil companies do not set the fuel recommendations, but they do push premium fuels. Nice car colour BTW
Old 01-07-2004 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by sorcereur
If you can't afford the gas, you can't afford the car.

Old 01-07-2004 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaws
You misunderstood me. Shell for instance, advertises the fact that by using Gold gas, you will have better power, less emissions, etc. This is a somewhat misleading statement since the vast majority of cars are manufactured to run on 87 octance, and putting in 93 octane will do nothing but add to the coffers of the oil companies. Oil companies do not set the fuel recommendations, but they do push premium fuels. Nice car colour BTW
I reckon I did misunderstand you. You are right. The oil company will certainly promote their high test gas for more profits. That's the nature of big business. I would do the same thing if I had the means to. I like your colour also.
Old 01-07-2004 | 04:45 PM
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Hmm, i just might put in midgrade now.
Old 01-07-2004 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaws
You misunderstood me. Shell for instance, advertises the fact that by using Gold gas, you will have better power, less emissions, etc. This is a somewhat misleading statement since the vast majority of cars are manufactured to run on 87 octance, and putting in 93 octane will do nothing but add to the coffers of the oil companies. Oil companies do not set the fuel recommendations, but they do push premium fuels. Nice car colour BTW

Do you also avoid using synthetic oil in your car?
Old 01-07-2004 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by trey
Hmm, i just might put in midgrade now.
You might as well just put in regular, since midgrade is usually a ripoff
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