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Old 01-03-2004, 06:10 PM
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Any way to combat torque steer?

I know, get new tires for starters. Got the Falken 512s in my sights. Can't get the HLSD. Any other options you guys can think of?
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Originally Posted by Benj-AMG
I know, get new tires for starters. Got the Falken 512s in my sights. Can't get the HLSD. Any other options you guys can think of?
in the wise words of paul vitti's manager... "buy a honda!!" or dont accelerate hard. its fwd we have no choice with all the tq.
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Originally Posted by Benj-AMG
I know, get new tires for starters. Got the Falken 512s in my sights. Can't get the HLSD. Any other options you guys can think of?
It must be done with your foot, Grasshopper.
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Lowering springs help reduce hop. At least that's what I've noticed after installing mine.
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Lowering springs help reduce hop. At least that's what I've noticed after installing mine.
What about the torque steer though? Does it help reduce it any?
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I know you said not to reccomend HLSD, but it's the only effective way. It's not that expensive to put one in. I have HLSD and it really works well, though HLSD is one of the weakest LSDs.

Tires aren't going to help with torque steer at all, I don't care what kind you get.
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start to pump iron.
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take off like your drivin miss daisy then step on it
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Originally Posted by charliekilo3
What about the torque steer though? Does it help reduce it any?
Torque steer is still there, especially on roads that are the least bit uneven or bumpy. If it's a smooth road, there is much less, if any. As mentioned, skilled use of the accelerator will decrease torque steer also.
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By a Corvette!
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By a Corvette!
For the low low price of $50k +.
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Originally Posted by charliekilo3
For the low low price of $50k +.

A wise man one told me "Speed cost money how fast can you afford to go!"
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Originally Posted by hotrod37
A wise man one told me "Speed cost money how fast can you afford to go!"
Not too fast. I can't afford it.
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buy a honda where you will never ever have to worry about torque.
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you are wrong about that, then motor trend did a test on av6 03, they reported some torque steer.
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i'm just talking about torque, not torque steer
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Old 01-04-2004, 04:32 PM
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Hold on to the steering wheel!
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Originally Posted by KCMichaelM
Hold on to the steering wheel!
That is a must do. If you don't, major problems.
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Originally Posted by itdood
Tires aren't going to help with torque steer at all, I don't care what kind you get.

That's the most stupid comment I've ever heard from a newb. If you don't know what you're saying, please don't.


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Its hard to avoid torque steer in a FWD car that puts out 265 ft/lbs. There just isnt much you can do about it, other than the LSD option. I dont have that so I cant comment on how well it works, but I know how annoying torque steer is, and scary if you're not used to it. I've just learned to deal with it and keep a firm grip on the ol steering wheel. I like the FWD overall, so torque steer is somethin ya learn to live with
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Originally Posted by bigdo26
Its hard to avoid torque steer in a FWD car that puts out 265 ft/lbs. There just isnt much you can do about it, other than the LSD option. I dont have that so I cant comment on how well it works, but I know how annoying torque steer is, and scary if you're not used to it. I've just learned to deal with it and keep a firm grip on the ol steering wheel. I like the FWD overall, so torque steer is somethin ya learn to live with
Yeah, I remember the first time I hit my gas pedal hard. The car started heading where I wasn't planning on going. I had to get used to gripping the wheel tighter when I got ready to hit it.
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On my Max test drive the day I bought it, the torque steer tossed me into the breakdown lane (shifted me over almost a full lane) when I pulled a U turn and gassed it. Scared me but enticed me too Nothin like the power of the VQ (especially compared to my 2.2 liter Camry I was used to)
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Car and Driver, I think, was doing a report on the 3.5 Altima and kept talking about how bad the torque steer was. The test driver pulled into the company parkinglot that was empty and from a dead stop, took his hands completely off of the wheel and then stomped the gas. The wheel pulled all the way to one side and he traveled 100 ft to the left. Thats mean TS.
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This is really pointless discussion. What is so bad about torque steer? Just hold on to the damn wheel and it's a moot point. Just don't floor it while you are driving with your knees while at the same time smoking a cig with your left hand and on your cell phone with your right......

Get some weights and work out your hands and arms (or think of "another" way to do that).

Remember what your driving instructor taught you...hands at 10 and 2. Then again, that Dodge Aries I took driving school in had no semblance of torque steer.,...
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Originally Posted by bigdo26
On my Max test drive the day I bought it, the torque steer tossed me into the breakdown lane (shifted me over almost a full lane) when I pulled a U turn and gassed it. Scared me but enticed me too Nothin like the power of the VQ (especially compared to my 2.2 liter Camry I was used to)
Something's either very wrong with your car or you have the strength of a 3 year old girl.
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Originally Posted by bixmaxxx
Something's either very wrong with your car or you have the strength of a 3 year old girl.


I mean, TS is there... But this can't really be that big of a deal for everyone. It's kinda fun at times, the wheel is pullin one way so that means I know my tires are drivin!!!
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Hey I really like that feel of power. Plus when you have a girl in the car and some *** is trying you and you floor it and she feels that turn then you grip it. You know what time it is later on that night.
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Originally Posted by imxelite
Hey I really like that feel of power. Plus when you have a girl in the car and some *** is trying you and you floor it and she feels that turn then you grip it. You know what time it is later on that night.
HAHA! I would have never thought torque-steer would have that side effect...

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Moot point?? If performance were an issue, wouldn't control be a priority?
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Originally Posted by imxelite
Hey I really like that feel of power. Plus when you have a girl in the car and some *** is trying you and you floor it and she feels that turn then you grip it. You know what time it is later on that night.
Really?! Please introduce me to some of these girls. I usually just get slapped when this happens.
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lowering springs, strut bar, wider tires & rims and urethane motor mounts will damn near get rid of most of it
 
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Originally Posted by PAPA SMURF
lowering springs, strut bar, wider tires & rims and urethane motor mounts will damn near get rid of most of it

How does a strut bar get rid of torque steer EXACTLY?


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How does a strut bar get rid of torque steer EXACTLY?


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i didn't say it is the ONLY contributing factor to the equation....but it HELPS

FYI strut bars stiffen steering and stiffen the wheel
 
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Originally Posted by PAPA SMURF
i didn't say it is the ONLY contributing factor to the equation....but it HELPS

FYI strut bars stiffen steering and stiffen the wheel

Let me rephrase/ask you this again..... How does a strut bar HELP get rid of torque steer?


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Front strut tower braces help to reduce the body roll of the chassis by controling the flexing of the engine compartment. They do this by tying the two strut tower mounts together which prevents them from flexing in either direction when taking a hard turn.

lower the car, widen the wheel stance(spacers), better tires.
maybe fancy motor mounts but idk....
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Good. I ordered the FSB a week ago and I'm gonna put it on this Sunday. I was hoping that would help a little. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Torgus
Front strut tower braces help to reduce the body roll of the chassis by controling the flexing of the engine compartment. They do this by tying the two strut tower mounts together which prevents them from flexing in either direction when taking a hard turn.

lower the car, widen the wheel stance(spacers), better tires.
maybe fancy motor mounts but idk....

The question is not how FSTB reduce body roll when turning/tackling a corner. The question is how FSTB HELPS reduce TORQUE STEER.


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Originally Posted by Benj-AMG
Moot point?? If performance were an issue, wouldn't control be a priority?
Of course control is a priority. And control can EASILY be established under heavy accelleration by simply holding the steering wheel a little tighter...I once drove a friends' late-80s Ferrari. Sitting at a light waiting to turn right, and then gun it around the right turn....front wheels almost come off the ground. Now THAT you really have to fight the wheel.....the maxima just need a firm grip.....I am no muscle-man, so if I can hold the wheel and keep the car in control, I'm sure you can too....
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I mean, TS is there... But this can't really be that big of a deal for everyone. It's kinda fun at times, the wheel is pullin one way so that means I know my tires are drivin!!!
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There is very little that you, as a non-car manufacturer, can do to reduce torque steer, but there are things you can do to make it worse:
1. Wider tires
2. Low profile tires with stiff sidewalls
3. Wrong offset on your wheels

Ironically, the things you want to avoid are things that make your car handle better! You have to decide which is more important, reducing torque steer or handling well. I say live with the torque steer.

*Above paraphrased from sportcompactcarweb.com
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