My buddy and I are planning on going against each other at the track in our 4dr cars. Mine being my 02 Max w/45k mi & his being a 00 GTP w/25k mi. I must say I think my car felt faster than his stock. I only have a muffler and a drop in K&N filter. He only had a drop K&N too until the other day when he installed a mandrel bent ss catback exh. I must say I think I will be having my *** handed to me. The car already makes 280 lb ft tq stock and now it feels like 300 & pulls like mad. He also had the edge on me cause he's a avid drag racer. I hope I don't get too embarassed

Dave
02 Maxima SE
85 El Camino w/GN drivetrain

 

ask if he will drive in reverse
thats the ONLY way you even have a chance
i got my @ss handed to me by one. granted im a 00 but his catback will make make up the diffirence.

 

I am in a 24 hour test drive in a GT as I type..it is rather impressive

 

Performance exhaust + forced induction = kick @$$ (normally). Do you have a 6sp or auto?? If you have a 6sp and can drive, then I'll bet on you. If not, the GTP should take you. Just my $.02.

 

You should actually be able to take the GTP if it was stock...now that its modded i'm not too sure. I know in my car a GTP will smoke me off the line but I can usually out run them.

 

I got smoked too, he had almost three car lengths up to 100 mph...

 

if any camwork its a wrap....

 

My friend's 02 auto max got SMOKED by those new s/c grand prix. They were both stock. If i was you i would get some last minute mods to make it a little more interesting

 

stock vs stock the max will win i know because i raced my brothers car. but with some bolt ons the gtp will win. can u say supercharger

 

Thats weird stock for stock the 02 auto Max puts down slighty better numbers, they will get you on launch(due to torque and supercharger) and you should come back and past them by 30-35 or so. Bye Bye GTP after that, one got me slightly on the launch and by 35 I was edging him out and by 90 he was 2 cars back. Now 00/01 autos stock for stock I wouldnt try it.

 

Your buddy is stupid for investing in a catback for the GTP. It really does nothing. About the only real restrictive part of the GTP exhaust is what they can the "u-bend" which is replaced with a straighter pipe. Your buddy should have invested in a 3.4" pulley and CAI for less the price of catback plus he'd be gaining a ton more power. BTW, a 3.4" pulley and CAI will get a GTP into the mid 14s pretty easily and possibly low 14s. GTPs are quick, but if they're mostly stock like your buddies, it should be close with the win going to who gets off the line the best.


Dave

 

I've taken out two relatively stock GTPs on the highway. But when they get that 3.4" pulley upgrade, they can pretty much beat any interation of the VQ35DE (Max, G35, Z). Gotta love forced induction.

 

Tell that to my friend with a Regal GS (same as GTP but lighter) with a 3.4/DHP/U-Bend and he gets crawled on by me at highway speeds.

I have a 2002 I35 with no performance modifications short of lowering springs.

 

And read my thread about my race with an '04 GTP.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....5&page=1&pp=30

 

Have your friend call 312-842-4800. This is the telephone number for City Buick; have him ask for the service dept to arrange an appt to have his GS checked out....'cause a stock I35 shouldnt be able to crawl on a Regal GS.

 

Just be prepared to get your a$$ handed to you!!!

 

I raced a black 4 door GTP from 40 mph... that as* it was fast!! I was surprise... because i thought that i smoked it easily... but not true!!! we was tie but after ~80 the max passed it a little... around 90 we stopped!!! GTP's are faster than Thunderbird? I smoked a 5 speed SC Thunderfird soooooooo bad

 

ALL GTPs are fourdoor

 

Are you sure about that....

http://www.cars-on-line.com/00grandp13901.html

 

No they arent they made 2 door GTP's from 97-03.

 

In a race with stock GS vs a stock I35, I can totally see the I35 pulling slightly after 80mph. The GTP/GS is woefully undergeared. 1st goes to 55mph, 2nd to 92mph, 3rd to 140mph (limited to 108mph stock). Figure in the power characterisitic of the roots blower with a pushrod V6 and you'll see why stock and basically modded GTP/GSs aren't known for "topend" racing. They're great in the first 1/8, but slow down a lot in the final 1/8. The 3.5 VQ doesn't have quite below 40mph grunt of the GS/GTP, but above 40mph the VQ stretches it's legs thanks to more power available under the power curve. That's what owns.

We have a guy in our fast 4 doors group that has a 00 Regal GS. He has a CAI, ECU, u-bend fix, and the interchangeable 3.2/3.4" pulley setup. With his "street" set up (3.4" pulley, 92 octane, hot motor) he's pulled a best of 14.4@95mph. With the 3.2" pulley, 110 octane, removed headlight, and iced SC, he's pulled a best of 13.9@98mph which makes him the quickest GS/GTP for his level of mods at my track. The only difference between his car and my car is his 60'. He gets low 2.0 60s on street tires where as I can only muster lower 2.2s. He runs 97-99mph in the 1/4 mile and so do I. If he's not running his track setup, he'd get walked by me from a 40mph roll, no doubt. In track mode, his car gains 18mph in the final 1/8. I gain 21mph.


Dave

 

ok ok
everyone makes a mistake once in awhile

 

My buddy works for Pontiac/GMC so he got the stainless steel mandrel bent cat back sys with polishied muffs and chrome tips for $500. I must say it's a sweet set up and you can definitly feel the gains. I hear what you're sating though. The pulley and cai is on the list of things. He's worried about the trans though. His cost is $1,600 with a core and I guess their a real pain in the ****. As for my car it's a auto too. The best I've able to muster is a 14.97@93mph. I know my slow et's are due to my 60' times. Must work on launch

Dave
02 Maxima SE
85 El Camino w/GN drivetrain

 

I know you were able to get older GTP's in a 2dr.

Dave
02 Maxima SE
85 El Camino w/GN Drivetrain

 

man i got my *** killed by a heavily modded GTP it didnt have a catback but it sounded like a v-8 monster domestic and it just blew me away from the light i couildnt even catch up with it...by the way it took off it reminded me of bein at that track gettin my *** handed down by 12-13's cars...i also got my as handed down by some gramps in a stock bonneville gtp

 

opsss!! I meant GTP black color 2 door!!

 

Difference is, his friends GS is not stock and modded with a 3.4" SC pulley, which alone takes it decently beyond stock. The time's you ran (similar to the modded GTP you faced) is no where near what the I35 runs; you're basically running the same times as a 6sp 2k2/3. NOTE: The GTP/GS is automatic. And we know the 4sp auto I35 aint running as quick as a 6sp 2k2/3 Maxima.

Dont get me wrong, my own auto Max SE is quicker than the I35 but I'm not taking out any BPU GTPs unless the driver sucks or the car's in a poor state of tune.

$.02

 

stock for stock an auto 3.5 will get taken in the 1/4 by the GTP with the max running it down after the traps. 6 speed with a good driver will take a stock GTP pretty easily. the GTP is an upper 14 second car stock.....conditions and drivers will screw that up though. the GTP lays down pretty bad after 80 or so so if you can take thge race to the highway you should have him.

 

Just run him !...and let us know !

 

dude, is that a real pic or photoshope cause the bumper is sick.

 

You won't get beat, and if you do it won't be by much.

I have raced several modified GTP's at the track and one on the street. At the track (like Dave said) they kill in the first 1/8 mile but that is about it. I gain 21-22 mph in the second 1/8 and they gain 17-18 mph. The only way they beat me is on the launch.

The one I raced a moded one the street and it was dead even from 50ish-110mph. We talked for a second afterwards and he said "damn, I guess I need even a smaller pulley".

Don't be scared of a slightly moded GTP, I'm not.

 

Beat him to 60 and you'll be set, assuming he's stock. Otherwise, he should have you in the 1/4. A stock GTP will run anywhere from a 14.3 to a 14.9-15.0, driver dependent. If he's running even basic upgrades, i.e. intake, u-bend removed, 3.4" pulley, he's capable of a high 13. We had a local guy run 13.8's with 2.2 60' times with those mods and a PCM (his intake was a copy of my homemade one, so his grand total into the car is about $450) his very first time out on stock rubber. 2.2 60' isn't bad, but is nowhere near a stellar time for a GTP. A lot of the car's capability is going to rest in the driver's ability to use all that low end torque. You should still take him at highway speeds though, regardless of driving ability. Stock, of course.

 

photoshop i think... i found it on the internet!!! Its a perfect kit...

 

Ur right, it is a photoshop. The "Razor Concept" or something.

 

Really? 255hp248tq in a car that tipped the scales at 3300... Ooh so scary.

Not sure if this matters, cause it is kind of like mag. racing, but my neighbor ran 14.5@9X in his stock I35. couldn't tell you why he raced it, he has an 10 second GN, 12 second m3, and 11 second c5.

They are not much different, performance wise, than an automatic VQ. (Their just nicer)

 

Your ignorant to the I35. Where is your information from? Some guy with 18's on the I35 side ran 15.0. With heavy *** 18's and a ****ty 60 ft. They have the same capability as any automatic VQ. Some will perform better than others as well. There is no reason an I35 cant run mid 14's.

And I know plenty of BPU (as you call it) GTP's/GS's that ran lower 14's, 14.3's. So with that sort of time and a 94 mph trap, you can get crawled on by a VQ in stock form. I used to be in the GTP community, so I know my ****. Thanks.

 

An Auto will lose? If you say a GTP is a high 14 second car, the auto may not lose. There are MANY on here than ran 14.4-14.6. That's faster than high 14's my friend. Someone go read my thread.

 

You are so right including me and lots of others, I hate when people post and dont search are know the facts and post.

 

My mother-in-law has a 2000 GTP 2dr, midnight blue, stock. I am gonna run her one time in my 2k2 SE and see how close it is.

 

Get off the line well and it's yours.