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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MONTE 01&97 SE
You are so right including me and lots of others, I hate when people post and dont search are know the facts and post.

Agreed, but people who say that one car will win every time are the ones who are ignorant.

The race could go either way. There may be a lot of mid 14 Maximas, but there's more mid 14 GTP's. I would put money on the Maxima after 50 or 60 and not have a doubt in my mind. Like I said above, get him off the line, and he won't be catching up. If he can launch well, he's going to take you for a good portion of the 1/4, if not all of it. If he moderatley ****s up you'll win. If you want a 99% sure thing, race him from a roll.
Old Jan 10, 2004 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TheyCallMeSteel
Your ignorant to the I35.
I think you mean 'you're' not 'your' and the when the namecalling starts I'm done with you. Not that I care, have a good day.
Old Jan 10, 2004 | 08:48 PM
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Difference is, his friends GS is not stock and modded with a 3.4" SC pulley, which alone takes it decently beyond stock. The time's you ran (similar to the modded GTP you faced) is no where near what the I35 runs; you're basically running the same times as a 6sp 2k2/3. NOTE: The GTP/GS is automatic. And we know the 4sp auto I35 aint running as quick as a 6sp 2k2/3 Maxima.

Dont get me wrong, my own auto Max SE is quicker than the I35 but I'm not taking out any BPU GTPs unless the driver sucks or the car's in a poor state of tune.

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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by F23A4
I think you mean 'you're' not 'your' and the when the namecalling starts I'm done with you. Not that I care, have a good day.
You're right, I meant to say, "You're." Since when was Maxima.org a plethura of proper grammar? You have got to be ****ing kidding me. And you clearly care, otherwise you wouldnt have responded a few times.
Old Jan 10, 2004 | 09:01 PM
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i just raced a GTP and spanked on the highway sooooooo bad...
Old Jan 10, 2004 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by GreekMaxima
i just raced a GTP and spanked on the highway sooooooo bad...
lol good kill and good proof to back up these peoples statements...i will try and run my cousins when we get our cars out of the shop...
Old Jan 10, 2004 | 11:10 PM
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Will some of you ignorant souls please venture over to www.clubgp.com and do some research. Sure, the GTP/GS can be insanely quick with some well choosen but expensive mods, but most of these cars have basic mods and most guys are running higher 13s to mid 14s. Take note of their trap speeds too. They're all about 0-80mph. After 80mph they fall down unless they've added a cam or rockers or a revised blower or upgraded tranny, etc. Most typically modded GTPs are getting 96-99mph in the 1/4 mile which is what a lot of NA Maximas are doing. Believe me, if you get killed in a highway run with a GTP, then he had relatively serious mods.

There's a great video floating around of a 6 speed 2k2 Max running a modded GTP. From 0-100mph, the Maxima gets smoked by about 3-4 cars with most of distance being put on from 0-50mph. Then they run from a roll and the Maxima actually slowly walks the GTP.

0-80mph and better 1/4 mile car? Adavantage GTP

60mph+ highway run? Advantage Maxima

Choose your race.


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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 11:30 PM
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Yo guys I have been reading this thread and I wanted to ask this question. Why are the ones saying that the Max will lose are comparing a Stock Max to a Modded GTP. I mean if they can mod so can we, they have superchargers and the 01-00 Max can get turbo's and superchargers too. I saw a 00 or 01 Max with a turbo run 12.99 in the 1/4.
Old Jan 10, 2004 | 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave B

There's a great video floating around of a 6 speed 2k2 Max running a modded GTP. From 0-100mph, the Maxima gets smoked by about 3-4 cars with most of distance being put on from 0-50mph. Then they run from a roll and the Maxima actually slowly walks the GTP.

0-80mph and better 1/4 mile car? Adavantage GTP

60mph+ highway run? Advantage Maxima

Choose your race.


Dave
Is the video SmokinOdum and a 350Z vs. a GTP? I have that, and yes the GTP owns them both off the line, and from a roll, the Max pulls a 1-2 cars at first, and stays there, it doesn't pull further. But that GTP has some basic upgrades, a 3.4" pulley, PCM, intake, and U-bend removed, so that's kinda not a good comparison. PCM helps out a lot up top.

Like I said, you wanna win...run him from 50 or 60. If he can drive and you want to see him put a couple cars almost right away, run him from a dig, and have fun catching up.

Yo guys I have been reading this thread and I wanted to ask this question. Why are the ones saying that the Max will lose are comparing a Stock Max to a Modded GTP. I mean if they can mod so can we, they have superchargers and the 01-00 Max can get turbo's and superchargers too. I saw a 00 or 01 Max with a turbo run 12.99 in the 1/4.
If you're comparing modded to modded, you'd better have a lot deeper pockets than the GTP, especially if you have a '00-01 Maxima. For that $4k s/c, the GTP could run low 13's, maybe high 12's (IC, Cam, 2.8, Headers, I/E/PCM and some decent tires). Turbo'd GTP's are already in the 10's.

Not trying to sound biased, cause obviously I'm not, just trying to present some basic facts and info, and a good bit of experience with both cars. It's not like I'm talking out my ***. I'm probably going to s/c my Max if things work out, but I also realize that that same money into the GTP in its current form (i/e/pcm/3.2/cam/little ****) would put me in the 12's. While the GTP could be faster though, at this point I'd rather have the Max s/c'd and still pretty quick. Speed's not everything in this case.
Old Jan 11, 2004 | 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by chigga
lol good kill and good proof to back up these peoples statements...i will try and run my cousins when we get our cars out of the shop...
I mean it spanked me so bad.... that car is not joke!! it spanked me like nothing and before that race... i raced a mustang GT 5 speed and i smoked it so bad from the off the line...i was surprise about it!! its my first time that i smoked a GT and im sooo happy!!
Old Jan 11, 2004 | 03:33 AM
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4k in mods to a GTP can get you into the 11's if you really want to. This wont be healthy for the care, but for that amount of money it can be done. You definitely don't want to compare modifications to modification. The aftermarket for the GTP/GS owns, 10 times over, the aftermarket for the 3.0/3.5.
Old Jan 11, 2004 | 06:52 AM
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I had to chime in on this one.

Drivers race hands down. If the Max is a 6spd it will probably pull after 60-70mph but the GTP may already have a lead by then.

I have raced a stock GTP in my 1997 Maxima (y-pipe) and I began to pull away after 50mph.

My wife (2003 Max SE 6spd) raced me in my GTP (stock at the time) and everytime she began to pull slowly away around 60mph

Launching the GTP is the most crucial part of the race. You can spin the tires forever if you don't know how to launch these. Your friend needs to take Traction Control off before he races and practice a few launches this way.

Originally Posted by Dave B
Your buddy is stupid for investing in a catback for the GTP. It really does nothing. About the only real restrictive part of the GTP exhaust is what they can the "u-bend" which is replaced with a straighter pipe.
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Dave, don't forget the Down Pipe before the ubend. It's only 2.25 inner and most people open it up with a 3". But your right even doing that will not show significant gains without a 3.4 or smaller.
Old Jan 11, 2004 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by imxelite
Yo guys I have been reading this thread and I wanted to ask this question. Why are the ones saying that the Max will lose are comparing a Stock Max to a Modded GTP. I mean if they can mod so can we, they have superchargers and the 01-00 Max can get turbo's and superchargers too. I saw a 00 or 01 Max with a turbo run 12.99 in the 1/4.
That would be because SEDaveMax wrote, " must say I think my car felt faster than his stock. I only have a muffler and a drop in K&N filter. He only had a drop K&N too until the other day when he installed a mandrel bent ss catback exh. I must say I think I will be having my *** handed to me"

That said, it's a known fact that FI cars respond much better to a good full catback than NA cars. So now if both cars run roughly even stock (auto vs auto - irrespective of drivers) then you add the catback to both......
Old Jan 11, 2004 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by boo

My wife (2003 Max SE 6spd) raced me in my GTP (stock at the time) and everytime she began to pull slowly away around 60mph
Therein lies the difference, that 6sp tranny is a huge asset; especially in comparison to our 4sp auto. The question is: would you still begin to "pull slowly away" and maintain the distance (at a minimum) with an auto 2k2/3.

SEDave, go ahead an race your friend. Let us know the results.
Old Jan 11, 2004 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by GreekMaxima
I mean it spanked me so bad.... that car is not joke!! it spanked me like nothing and before that race... i raced a mustang GT 5 speed and i smoked it so bad from the off the line...i was surprise about it!! its my first time that i smoked a GT and im sooo happy!!
Greek, you have a great bunch of mods on your 2k3. Have you run it (track) or had it dyno'd yet?
Old Jan 11, 2004 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by F23A4
Greek, you have a great bunch of mods on your 2k3. Have you run it (track) or had it dyno'd yet?
not yet man... thank you!
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