Max_Gator

As far as I know, the fastest NA 2k/2k1 was my buddy and turbo Dodge guru madmax2k at Bradenton with a 14.38.

I ran 14.39@98.03 with a 2.195 60' on the same track - just 2 years later . . . lol.

Of course Madmax2k's run was with fewer mods - but also 2.14 60' and only @96.62.

I believe that bumping the timing made a big difference.

Blu

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what mods? and what are the specs on the track?

maxfreak_98

It's about time you learned how to drive that thing The car had the potential all along.
Great run, John
I didn't realize until I got home that I just barely beat my PB also (14.71)
I'm going to get my plugs and fuel filter changed and we'll have to go back.

IceY2K1

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Sick...that'd put the hurt on most 2K2+.

Max_Gator

Guess sigs are off:

Mods are just about everything possible except headers and FI.

17BTDC/Y/CAI/UDP/RTCAT/Bpipe/MidPipe/stock muffler/Short throw shifter/Pilot Sport A/S(23psi). Duh: Didn't even think to take out the spare/back seat.

Great track conditions (Bradenton Motorsports) - 50 degrees - nice amount of VHT. That track is usually in good shape.

Cutler

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Nice times!!!!!!

Blu

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very nice

Max_Gator

Great! Get those suckers changed - I'm sure you'll whip me as often as I drop too much clutch and miss 3rd!!

Ah, it is also great that the run was actually against Larry(madmax2k) - and I won LOL. Of course, the only way I'll beat that turbo dodge is driver or mechanical error!!

Dave B

Sweet runs. Definately proof the 00-01s are no slouches. Too bad no one can develop an ECU with an extended rev limiter because you could be significantly quicker.


Dave

Max_Gator

That's what I've been hoping for - Ice is going to come through, I'm certain!!!

Now that maxfreak has told me we have a contact at nissan - I'm going to try to advance the timing further and see what happens.

By the way, I thought I could beat that run with a better 60' - but could never launch better. I kept dropping the clutch too much and spinning. I had another 2.19 60' and "only" ran 14.55. The key is getting out of the launch with the rpms up in the power band. When I ran the 14.55, rpms were 1500 less at the same point on the track than the 14.39.

maxfreak_98

The track did get very slick. My best run of the day was the first run. I usually get VERY consistant 60' times (around 2.2x) but I was way up in the 2.4 range after the first run.
Man, if you could get a 7000 rpm rev limiter........

Max_Gator

Yes, you are usually Mr. Consistent while I on the other hand am Mr. Variable.

The higher rev limiter would make a difference!

Of course, HAD you installed the MEVI . . .

2K2DEMAX

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I was also there with John and Terry. My best run (the first run) was 14.8 at 94.7 with a 2.37 60'. Man, I just can't launch for ****. Anyway, nice times John. Let's do it again before it gets warm.

Max_Gator

I'm still amazed at that! But you probably had an r/t of what .501???

You see, Madmax2k can just plain drive, Maxfreak is Mr. Consistent 60' and 2k2demax is Mr. r/t.

Me . . . can you say "blind squirrel?"

madmax2k

I was pulling for you Johnny! Oh so close!

And the best part is, when you ran the 14.39, I was in the other lane but was so far behind you I could see your ET light up on the board before I crossed the line!

All I can say is that you are lucky I broke that shift cable! DOH!

I dont think I beat a Maxima all day! Drats! Next time, I will bring double the boost to make up for my beatings!

madmax2k

So much for the tired engine theory Terry!

madmax2k

It was an honor to get whipped! I just wish I had the camera going in the car during that run....that would have been some kinda cool to catch that on film!

Max_Gator

Whipped . . . hah! Freak occurrence is more like it.

You still should keep your Max times in your sig - even though the beast is gone!

madmax2k

Well, you should see the shift cable! It made it 143,000 miles fine in this car. Then, 1000 miles of me driving it and its all done hehehehehehehehehe. All I wanted was a 12.xxx on the street tires and the low boost setting but that lousy little cable foiled me!

Ole MadMax was a fun car thats for sure. But, I sure do like R/T in the bang for the buck department.

madmax2k

Yes...I think John said he was actually bouncing off the rev limiter on the 14.39 run just as he was going through the traps. Another 500 rpm would make a big difference in these cars.

HerBlue2kSE

And the sleeper factor!

AKA: H bomb from Turbododge

Travis

sorcereur

I am glad to see this. This will shut all the 5speed haters. Ever since i got my 2k3, i've been trying to say that a 5speed with these mods can keep up with a stock 2k2+ 6speed but nobody would believe. I even showed vids of pioneer's modded 2k (same mods but no timing advance, and with HKS catback) running against my stock 2k3 but the haters said i must not have known how to drive, or making other excuses....
Now this is 14.39 with a trap speed of 98mph. You tell me that this isn't faster than most stock 6speeds out there? And the trap speed is higher than any stock 6speed trap speed i've seen to date. STOCK, is what i'm comparing to.

I still love my 2k3, but let's not knock on the 5speed. From a roll, i think a properly driven modded 5speed can take a stock 2k2+. They have a much stronger top end and gearing advantage. I still stand by that argument even though i have a 6speed and wouldn't trade.

I expect to get flamed for this but oh well....... It's the truth in MY opinion, and i believe it's a fact.

IceY2K1

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Org member of the year AWARD~!

PIONEER

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I've been saying All along my Green 2K did 14.3 but people here got issues. Even did a run up to 130Mph Right next to a 6spd, Not once but 3 times, and Got it On video. 5spd's rule. And Owning a 5spd and 6spd Togather. 5spd Faster with my mods, Atleast mine is !!!

GuZo

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Come on guys post those vids.

Also, I heard of companies that make aftermarket ECU's fit to any car, all you have to do is take the car there or send them your ECU I think. The people who told me about this procedure are domestic lovers so maybe they only do that for domestic cars.

Max_Gator

Even though I own a 2k 5spd, I'd love to have the 3.5 platform to work with. No doubt they can be made faster than the 2k/2k1.

Max_Gator

LOL! Should we discuss the other things you've broken in the last 1000 miles???

Still, what a great project car. I was really hoping to see you whip some of those Cobras at the track!!!

Yes, and if you had gotten the 12.xxx you would have then said "Gee, I think I can get an 11.xxx . . . !

NYCe MaXiMa

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My 2000 SE 5 spd ran a 14.8 with a cone filter and with 100k miles + on the clock.. full interior and trunk, heavy stock 17s with craptenzas.

My 97 felt a bit stronger off the line but the top end was crap. This car feels much more solid and refined overall and the top end is

92 SE-R 02 SE

very well said. I give props for a 5th gen running some good times. Get some slicks and its another NA 13 sec max! Now just picture the 5.5 with the same mods!

EDIT Post the slip if you could..it would be nice to compare to some of the 3.5 runs that were done...

Blu

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Autos RULE!!!!

Max_Gator

I must . . . . . . .

Blu

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lol nice times get some slicks and shoot for some 13's

madmax2k

hehehehehehe...comes with the territory when you try to run 25 psi boost with an ECU that cant see past 14 I now have that problem solved.

All it takes is a flick of that boost control remote! hehehehehehe But, its more fun to see what one can do without just jacking the boost up. My new ECU can handle 16 psi more boost than I ran at the track (up to about 29 psi), so next time I might let er rip.

madmax2k

He would have been able to if dang Maximas used a 5 x 100 bolt pattern like the Dodges as I wasnt using them. Slicks alone would have made high 13's a breeze. But, I agree its more fun to see what street car can do in street trim (i.e. how its driven normally).

Y2KMaxGXE-R

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Mad props! The majority of 5spds with all bolt-ons are running high 14's. What gas were you using, kind of intake, what kind of oil? Would Cali-spec run slower because of difference in emissions?

Cutler

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No on the emissions question

Blu

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It mainly has to do with the elevation of the track. A flordia track that hooks on a 50 degree day is a dream for most racers.

Dave B

Yep, I also think it has more to do with the barometric pressure. I pulled up the weather data for Bradenton, FL and conditions were pretty dang good:

http://www.wunderground.com/history/...lyHistory.html

Temps were in the lower to mid 50 most of the day, humidity was a tad high, but the baro pressure was in the 30.30-30.40 range. Team that with running at sea level and things become ideal. This is known as density altitude or "D.A.". I'm just jealous

I log the weather on all my slips and I'm consistently quicker (.2+) when the baro pressure is in the 30.1-30.2 range vs the normal 29.80 range. Who would think so little change makes such a difference.

It seems that everytime I pull up conditions at a track where someone ran some great times, the conditions almost always show a higher baro pressure and 40-50 degree weather. I wish my track was open right now because a high pressure system is parked over the midwest right now with pressures ranging from 30.20-30.60. Too bad this only happens in the winter.


Dave

madmax2k

They might have been good for the engines, but there sure were horrible for me!

When temps are in the 50's, it just plain stinks!

But, yes.....one is always going to run faster when it is 55F rather than 95F. Thats just how it goes. So, on the cold days like we had last Saturday, the track is packed.

I did do a quickie dyno test of the effects of air temp with my 2000 Max a few years back. Ill have to see if I can find the charts. But, what I do recall was that was when the ambient air temp was 72F, the ACTUAL whp (i.e. no corrections) produced was about 6-7 whp more than when the ambient temp was 90F. On a 205 whp car, thats about 3% which doesnt sound like a whole lot, but it all adds up. So, with 55F ambient, its reasonable to suspect that maybe another 5-6 whp is showing up over what would be found at 72F. Thus, its probably not outrageous to think that on the coldest day of the year a typical Max is producing 10 to maybe even 15 whp more than in the summer.

madmax2k

I never worry about baro pressure! I have a little thing parked on the back of the engine that can make any baro pressure I want!

BWAHAHAHAHA!