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Old Jan 26, 2004 | 08:21 AM
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ls1 killer?

What kind of mods, if it's even possible, would I need on my car to be able to beat an LS1 vette in either 0-60 or 1/4 mile?
Old Jan 26, 2004 | 08:26 AM
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you would need the SSR turbo kit that is coming out and maybe some nitrous oxide. it wouldnt hurt to have forged pistons and crank shaft. Also you would need a 3" exhaust. A manual transmission would be a must. The automagic just isnt strong enough.
Old Jan 26, 2004 | 08:27 AM
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is that all?
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Old Jan 26, 2004 | 08:35 AM
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might as well buy a z06 for all the money you're going to drop to get a 12 second car.
Old Jan 26, 2004 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by FidizzyTypeS
might as well buy a z06 for all the money you're going to drop to get a 12 second car.
Nah, I don't plan on actually doing all that. I really was just wondering. What I'll end up doing is whatever mods that would be safe, give performance, not be to ricey, and reliable. I'm not looking into making my Maxima a racecar, if I wanted that I would have gotten the firebird. I'll probobly just end up getting intake, exhaust, ypipe or headers whichever turn out to be the smartest buy, new cat, ecu, and anything else I come across that seems reliable and worth the money.
Old Jan 26, 2004 | 09:11 AM
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The C5 is a powerful car.....I mean with the mods that are available for the maximas....and some time....i'm sure you would be able to keep up with a c5. I'm sorry if i came off like I was knocking you.
Old Jan 26, 2004 | 10:22 AM
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What kind of mods, if it's even possible, would I need on my car to be able to beat an LS1 vette in either 0-60 or 1/4 mile?
buy one
Old Jan 26, 2004 | 10:37 AM
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A sling-shot setup like jets use to take off from aircraft carriers or a thousand pound rocket strapped on the roof would be a good start. They've got a lot more power, and a superior platform for 1/4s, so it's going to take quite a bit of work and money.
Old Jan 26, 2004 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Luquire
you would need the SSR turbo kit that is coming out and maybe some nitrous oxide. it wouldnt hurt to have forged pistons and crank shaft. Also you would need a 3" exhaust. A manual transmission would be a must. The automagic just isnt strong enough.

We already have a forged crank...

And what's this nonsense about "must have a manual tranny" ? You can order a purpose built auto that will decimate most manuals in a 1/4 drag race for any 95-up Maxima. Sure, it'll cost you almost $4000, but it will have LSD and be built for 400 + WHP.

The 3" exhaust will definitely be useful, as would new forged 8.1:1 compression pistons and forged super strength connecting rods (from Pauter Machine). Pistons will run you $1300-$1400, connecting rods another $900-$1200. That's most likely over $6K before you even have a turbo picked out...
Old Jan 26, 2004 | 11:43 AM
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my car and its an auto
Old Jan 26, 2004 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Quicksilver
We already have a forged crank...

And what's this nonsense about "must have a manual tranny" ? You can order a purpose built auto that will decimate most manuals in a 1/4 drag race for any 95-up Maxima. Sure, it'll cost you almost $4000, but it will have LSD and be built for 400 + WHP.

The 3" exhaust will definitely be useful, as would new forged 8.1:1 compression pistons and forged super strength connecting rods (from Pauter Machine). Pistons will run you $1300-$1400, connecting rods another $900-$1200. That's most likely over $6K before you even have a turbo picked out...
Your Tranny talk intrigues me, I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

Linkage perhaps to the company doin this for maxes?
Old Jan 26, 2004 | 01:07 PM
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Then again-how many LS1s are stock. So once they mod at all-they will beat your heavily modified Max.
Old Jan 26, 2004 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Matto357
Your Tranny talk intrigues me, I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

Linkage perhaps to the company doin this for maxes?
LEVEL TEN TRANSMISIONS
Old Jan 26, 2004 | 02:34 PM
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LEVEL TEN TRANSMISIONS

Hell no...

I was talking about NRH. They do not have a website that I know of, but I have their contact info...


NRH Transmissions
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Old Jan 26, 2004 | 03:03 PM
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I had a LS1 Z28 and honestly, intake ($150), long tubes ($500-700), cutout ($50), cam ($500) and that sumb i t c h will run LOW 12's(auto or manual, actually the auto would probably be faster)...add nittos, goodnight...

Then you could buy a cheap nitrous kit, get a 12 bolt, run in the deep 11's for around a total of $4000. Not bad for a car that you could probably pick up for around $12k right now.
Old Jan 26, 2004 | 03:05 PM
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Man that was hilarious.

Originally Posted by Quicksilver
Hell no...
Old Jan 26, 2004 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by NCTRNL
I had a LS1 Z28 and honestly, intake ($150), long tubes ($500-700), cutout ($50), cam ($500) and that sumb i t c h will run LOW 12's(auto or manual, actually the auto would probably be faster)...add nittos, goodnight...

Then you could buy a cheap nitrous kit, get a 12 bolt, run in the deep 11's for around a total of $4000. Not bad for a car that you could probably pick up for around $12k right now.
You can run low 12's with a $5k Auto Maxima with less than $2k mods. Save your money.
Old Jan 26, 2004 | 05:26 PM
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http://www.ecarboutique.com/showcase...=58&MAN_ID=338 one of these ought to put you in the 11 sec 1/4, so ls1 shouldn't be a problem
Old Jan 26, 2004 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Matto357
Your Tranny talk intrigues me, I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

Linkage perhaps to the company doin this for maxes?

HAHAHA...Simpsons fan
Old Jan 26, 2004 | 05:31 PM
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Here all you need is a 75 wet shot. Dont believe the BS floating around. I raced a 3.5 w/75 wet shot and he put about 8 car lengths on me when I was SCed. Dude left me sitting still. This guy was going around beating on supras, Z06's and LS1s. Nismo2020 knows who I am talking about. He goes by the name of spraying70.
Old Jan 26, 2004 | 06:03 PM
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Here all you need is a 75 wet shot. Dont believe the BS floating around. I raced a 3.5 w/75 wet shot and he put about 8 car lengths on me when I was SCed. Dude left me sitting still. This guy was going around beating on supras, Z06's and LS1s. Nismo2020 knows who I am talking about. He goes by the name of spraying70.

sorry, but its gonna take a LOT more to beat an ls1 with a 75 shot only on the maxima. auto or stick.

my ls1 only has lid/filter, headers and cutouts.i trap 110... this is AFTER driving 120 miles to the track, no cool down time, and a LOUSY tune. ran a 12.7 with a 2.23 60 ft time so yeah i dont think you will be beating ANY ls1's unless they are missing 2 cyilnders.

as for the statement that this guy goes around whipping Z06's with only a 75 shot? thats complete and utter HORSE CRAP. z06's weigh 3100lbs, have 360RWHP, and have AWSOME gearing. you arent going to beat ANY z06 with your 255 hp+75 shot at the CRANK. thats 330 CRANK hp. you MIGHT keep up with a STOCK auto f body from a roll on.

and since you claim its bs thats floating around, bring out a stock maxima with a 75 wet shot and ill ***** slap him into next week with my little ol LS1.
Old Jan 26, 2004 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JAY25
Here all you need is a 75 wet shot. Dont believe the BS floating around. I raced a 3.5 w/75 wet shot and he put about 8 car lengths on me when I was SCed. Dude left me sitting still. This guy was going around beating on supras, Z06's and LS1s. Nismo2020 knows who I am talking about. He goes by the name of spraying70.

Come on now - i have HUGE doubts that a 3.5 with ONLY a 75 wet shot is going to beat an LS1 - let alone a 405 HP z06 - down here at my school one of the guys we went tto the track with pulled a 12.0 BONE STOCK with no drag radials in a Z06 and a stock ls1 is running around 13.2's a 3.5l on a good day will hit 14.5 - with a 75 shot maybe high 13's ? sooooo maybe something was wrong with your car - and those supra's and ls1's probably didnt even know they were racing lol
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Originally Posted by 02 SunliTMaxima
Come on now - i have HUGE doubts that a 3.5 with ONLY a 75 wet shot is going to beat an LS1 - let alone a 405 HP z06 - down here at my school one of the guys we went tto the track with pulled a 12.0 BONE STOCK with no drag radials in a Z06 and a stock ls1 is running around 13.2's a 3.5l on a good day will hit 14.5 - with a 75 shot maybe high 13's ? sooooo maybe something was wrong with your car - and those supra's and ls1's probably didnt even know they were racing lol
Not quite true, I run a 13.1 with just a 35 shot on a 3l, so when I do up a 3.5l this spring we will see what it will do.
Old Jan 26, 2004 | 06:30 PM
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sorry, but its gonna take a LOT more to beat an ls1 with a 75 shot only on the maxima. auto or stick.

my ls1 only has lid/filter, headers and cutouts.i trap 110... this is AFTER driving 120 miles to the track, no cool down time, and a LOUSY tune. ran a 12.7 with a 2.23 60 ft time so yeah i dont think you will be beating ANY ls1's unless they are missing 2 cyilnders.

as for the statement that this guy goes around whipping Z06's with only a 75 shot? thats complete and utter HORSE CRAP. z06's weigh 3100lbs, have 360RWHP, and have AWSOME gearing. you arent going to beat ANY z06 with your 255 hp+75 shot at the CRANK. thats 330 CRANK hp. you MIGHT keep up with a STOCK auto f body from a roll on.

and since you claim its bs thats floating around, bring out a stock maxima with a 75 wet shot and ill ***** slap him into next week with my little ol LS1.
Unless the fcker lied to me and he was spraying more then a 70 shot. Thats all he was spraying and left me sitting still. He has enough to pull on a Z06 and a LS1. I ll locate the guy for you. I personally ran a SCed LS1 when I was SCed and raced him again not too long ago with bad compression in one cylinder. Dont believe me here is the video.

http://www.turbofedmax.com/videos/jay25rematch5.5.wmv

Vortech V9, boosting 5PSI. Raced him 3 times he got me two out of three since I missed a shift the first run.
Old Jan 26, 2004 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 02 SunliTMaxima
Come on now - i have HUGE doubts that a 3.5 with ONLY a 75 wet shot is going to beat an LS1 - let alone a 405 HP z06 - down here at my school one of the guys we went tto the track with pulled a 12.0 BONE STOCK with no drag radials in a Z06 and a stock ls1 is running around 13.2's a 3.5l on a good day will hit 14.5 - with a 75 shot maybe high 13's ? sooooo maybe something was wrong with your car - and those supra's and ls1's probably didnt even know they were racing lol
You need to do a little more research...High 13's with a 75 shot??? Well I dynoed 314whp and 396tq with a 100 shot and exhaust. Also trapped 107 at the track, thats plenty to beat up on ls1's. Modded ls1's are a little tougher but you need to research about your own car a little before making these claims.

Ohh and my car is an automatic
Old Jan 26, 2004 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 02 SunliTMaxima
Come on now - i have HUGE doubts that a 3.5 with ONLY a 75 wet shot is going to beat an LS1 - let alone a 405 HP z06 - down here at my school one of the guys we went tto the track with pulled a 12.0 BONE STOCK with no drag radials in a Z06 and a stock ls1 is running around 13.2's a 3.5l on a good day will hit 14.5 - with a 75 shot maybe high 13's ? sooooo maybe something was wrong with your car - and those supra's and ls1's probably didnt even know they were racing lol

You live in Atl dont sit behind the computer and say its not impossible. I know what I saw, I just cant take the mans **** apart to see if in fact hes spraying a 70shot. I know hes fast, and alot of people dont like him cause his **** is very fast.


Jime is a nitrous junky he knows his stuff.
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Originally Posted by blubyu2k2
You need to do a little more research...High 13's with a 75 shot??? Well I dynoed 314whp and 396tq with a 100 shot and exhaust. Also trapped 107 at the track, thats plenty to beat up on ls1's. Modded ls1's are a little tougher but you need to research about your own car a little before making these claims.

Ohh and my car is an automatic

I knew it, his numbers were in the high 300s just like you just posted. So I am right all you need is a 70 shot. I am trying to tell them is not impossible. Obviously he must not be boosted to know. Sitting behind the desk does you know good! Guess some of these 3.5 ltr owners dont know their **** nor the potential of that motor.
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[QUOTE=red99ls1ta

and since you claim its bs thats floating around, bring out a stock maxima with a 75 wet shot and ill ***** slap him into next week with my little ol LS1.[/QUOTE]


Can I bring my little 3.0 ltr one of these nights and do a couple of runs against you? I dont own a 3.5 but if I did Id be mighty happy I live in Marrietta
Old Jan 26, 2004 | 06:45 PM
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Not quite true, I run a 13.1 with just a 35 shot on a 3l, so when I do up a 3.5l this spring we will see what it will do.

im sorry, but your stock maxima(if indeed you mean stock) with a 35 shot will not run a 13.1 much less ANYWHERE in the 13's. and you dont drop over 2 full seconds with a 75 shot. get a clue.
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Can I bring my little 3.0 ltr one of these nights and do a couple of runs against you? I dont own a 3.5 but if I did Id be mighty happy I live in Marrietta[/QUOTE]


bring it. i also have a little bottle as well. i will make sure i put the most amount of cars on you as possible. im guessing 8 or 9
Old Jan 26, 2004 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by blubyu2k2
You need to do a little more research...High 13's with a 75 shot??? Well I dynoed 314whp and 396tq with a 100 shot and exhaust. Also trapped 107 at the track, thats plenty to beat up on ls1's. Modded ls1's are a little tougher but you need to research about your own car a little before making these claims.

Ohh and my car is an automatic
you sir need to do the research on your car before you talk. im sorry but a 220 fwhp car is not going to gain over 100hp from a 75 shot. especially when you dont have big cubes like an ls1. i tell you what, you bring a stock maxima with nitrous out, ill jet the car for 75 shot and we will run for money.
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Unless the fcker lied to me and he was spraying more then a 70 shot. Thats all he was spraying and left me sitting still. He has enough to pull on a Z06 and a LS1. I ll locate the guy for you. I personally ran a SCed LS1 when I was SCed and raced him again not too long ago with bad compression in one cylinder. Dont believe me here is the video.

http://www.turbofedmax.com/videos/jay25rematch5.5.wmv

Vortech V9, boosting 5PSI. Raced him 3 times he got me two out of three since I missed a shift the first run.

he was most definately lying to you then. first off, the guy you raced... something is wrong with his car. i also recall a video of where a nearly stock LT1 hung within a few cars of you. how quickly we forget. bottom line is that sc ls1 is a HORRIBLE example of an ls1. my bolt on only car(5 total mods) will outrun his car. bad compression in one cyilnder , he probably had bad compression in 4. im sorry but a stock 3.5l nissan vq motor is not going to pull on a CORVETTE Z06 with a 75 shot. you would be lucky to hang with a stock f body, much less a Z06 that traps 116 BONE STOCK.
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I knew it, his numbers were in the high 300s just like you just posted. So I am right all you need is a 70 shot. I am trying to tell them is not impossible. Obviously he must not be boosted to know. Sitting behind the desk does you know good! Guess some of these 3.5 ltr owners dont know their **** nor the potential of that motor.
Please, lets get back to the basics - ok - bluby i saw what you ran and you ran that with a 100 shot and SLICKS - i bone stock max with a 70 shot isnt going to BEAT on any z06's from a roll on much less a stop - if you dont have slicks your not going to go anywhere anyways ... z06's run 12.0 BONE STOCK... so whats wrong with me saying that a stock 3.5 with a 75 shot isnt going to hang with a z06 when bluby ran a 12.8


12.0 > 12.8
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you sir need to do the research on your car before you talk. im sorry but a 220 fwhp car is not going to gain over 100hp from a 75 shot. especially when you dont have big cubes like an ls1. i tell you what, you bring a stock maxima with nitrous out, ill jet the car for 75 shot and we will run for money.
Well first of all I never said a maxima will gain 100hp from a 75 shot. I have videos and dyno sheets of me gaining 104whp and 172wtq from a 100 shot. I don't know what you're trying to prove here and I really don't give a crap what your car can run. I'm so glad your 5.7L can beat up on a 3.5L you sir are the man . I'll tell you what spray your car and I'll bring a saleen with one power adder and run you for money what you say? Wow look at me now Im a big dog.
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Originally Posted by red99ls1ta
Not quite true, I run a 13.1 with just a 35 shot on a 3l, so when I do up a 3.5l this spring we will see what it will do.

im sorry, but your stock maxima(if indeed you mean stock) with a 35 shot will not run a 13.1 much less ANYWHERE in the 13's. and you dont drop over 2 full seconds with a 75 shot. get a clue.

Sure you dont have to believe us but we have a NA 3.0 ltr maxima with bolts ons running 13.6's.

red99lsta, sure fill your bottle I dont care. Put 8-9 car lengths, bus lenghts. I can take an *** wooping. A run is a run I can care less. Of course its only a 3.0 Ltr. Better yet, I have a bottle I need to install as well. Just awaiting for friend to come back from a business trip. We may be even then. You have your little bottle and Ill have my. Fair it will be fair then
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he was most definately lying to you then. first off, the guy you raced... something is wrong with his car. i also recall a video of where a nearly stock LT1 hung within a few cars of you. how quickly we forget. bottom line is that sc ls1 is a HORRIBLE example of an ls1. my bolt on only car(5 total mods) will outrun his car. bad compression in one cyilnder , he probably had bad compression in 4. im sorry but a stock 3.5l nissan vq motor is not going to pull on a CORVETTE Z06 with a 75 shot. you would be lucky to hang with a stock f body, much less a Z06 that traps 116 BONE STOCK.

he did out run me pretty bad when I was SCed. He can still outrun me if I dont shift right very fast. Ill let him know that a LS1 owner w/ bolt ons said that he has bad compression in 4 cylinders. I tell you what let me get a hold of my lS1 buddies and we all can get together and get it on. You can race his slow azzz SCed Z28. We all can have some good fun. Ill even bring a old truck dodge dakota. The truck owner wont pop his hood though, I dont know why I also bring slammed97SE in his lightning. Well have a good night out


I did have bad compression in number two cylinder. I just pulled my motor and installed a different one.
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look - all i am doing is taking the side of a z06 - i know that the 3.5's are quick for what they are but its going to take a little more than a 75 shot for a maxima to run a 12.0 - dont you think ?
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I don't know if anyone makes it, but if your going to drop a SC and nitro, might as well get a racing engine (depending on the boost and shot of both factors). Some company makes them for the 3.0 costing around 3k.
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Originally Posted by red99ls1ta
Not quite true, I run a 13.1 with just a 35 shot on a 3l, so when I do up a 3.5l this spring we will see what it will do.

im sorry, but your stock maxima(if indeed you mean stock) with a 35 shot will not run a 13.1 much less ANYWHERE in the 13's. and you dont drop over 2 full seconds with a 75 shot. get a clue.

Ever hear of weight reduction and good suspension setup moron? I wouldn't bet money against the guy you are currently bashing...
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Guys it is hards to believe a slightly modified max is hanging with a 5.7 liter car. Not only do they have more hp and torque but the curves are very flat compared to a max. Now any car can be made to be fast. i saw an old Datsun 4 cyl running 8 sec 1/4 miles on tv - so anything is possible..

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