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Old 02-03-2004 | 11:48 AM
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Pimpjuice, MAN... NICEEEEEEE... I can't wait to see some video's and some timeslips from the track, as well as a dyno... WE'RE IMPATIENT HURRY UP.
Old 02-03-2004 | 12:10 PM
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Would I be a little crazy to want to fly to your hometown to see the setup in person?
Old 02-03-2004 | 01:58 PM
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Ok I'm fantacizing here:

Can we speculate as to how much HP this setup is puttin' to the ground? That'll hold me until we get dyno results.
Old 02-03-2004 | 02:00 PM
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i say a good 350-400hp at wheel?? maybe more with his turbo i dont know itll be tite if hes pushin out 500hp to the wheel
Old 02-03-2004 | 03:06 PM
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Old 02-03-2004 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by pimpjuice
Thanks for the advice, but I think this turbo is a perfect match for the 3.5L (bb or not). I spent a lot of time talking with people at turbonetics and innovative turbo on which one to get. A smaller turbo might not supply the amount of air the 3.5 needs in the high end, especially when the VI kicks in. Another great part about this turbo choice is: when the engine is built I won't have to upgrade the turbo. I didn't really notice when I hit full boost and it snowed yesterday so I will check it out and let you know. I think you are right though about hitting full boost at around 4500. We set it up to hit full boost between 3700 and 4500. And yes, fuel is my top priority right now.

The sun is up!! Hopefully the snow clears up soon, it sucks that it had to snow a day after I finished this. Oh well.
People talk a lot of game about turbos, especially when it comes to a retardly expensive stage 5 BB turbo that I think is way too much for your car, or most FWD cars.

It is of course your car, but when you are going to up the boost and have all this top end to support your VI, the person next to you running a smaller turbo with quicker spool will have already pulled further ahead. Granted you will be able to play catch up, but who likes to have to watch people pull away from them and constantly have to try and catch back up?

My thing is, why not do a hybrid turbo, and just run higher boost. You can run 15-18psi on a t04e hybrid and put out around 500+ whp, but I highly doubt you will be anywhere near ready for that.

What psi are you running now?
Old 02-03-2004 | 04:17 PM
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whats the price on the turbo?
Old 02-03-2004 | 06:06 PM
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also...

Originally Posted by thebigsadler
People talk a lot of game about turbos, especially when it comes to a retardly expensive stage 5 BB turbo that I think is way too much for your car, or most FWD cars.

It is of course your car, but when you are going to up the boost and have all this top end to support your VI, the person next to you running a smaller turbo with quicker spool will have already pulled further ahead. Granted you will be able to play catch up, but who likes to have to watch people pull away from them and constantly have to try and catch back up?

My thing is, why not do a hybrid turbo, and just run higher boost. You can run 15-18psi on a t04e hybrid and put out around 500+ whp, but I highly doubt you will be anywhere near ready for that.

What psi are you running now?

Also remember that turbonetics does not warranty ball bearing turbos! If for what ever reason you have a problem w/your turbo, ball bearing turbos cannot be rebuilt... they have to be completely gutted and brand new parts need to be used$$$$ Check into it. Because turbos are not maintenance free and I knowyou would'nt want to have to pay for that thing AGAIN. this was one of my main reasons for not going BB.

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Old 02-03-2004 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by thebigsadler
People talk a lot of game about turbos, especially when it comes to a retardly expensive stage 5 BB turbo that I think is way too much for your car, or most FWD cars.

It is of course your car, but when you are going to up the boost and have all this top end to support your VI, the person next to you running a smaller turbo with quicker spool will have already pulled further ahead. Granted you will be able to play catch up, but who likes to have to watch people pull away from them and constantly have to try and catch back up?

My thing is, why not do a hybrid turbo, and just run higher boost. You can run 15-18psi on a t04e hybrid and put out around 500+ whp, but I highly doubt you will be anywhere near ready for that.

What psi are you running now?
Props to Senor Pimp for the creativity and $$ to put into his Max.

His car is insane, but 350+ whp is difficult, if not damn near impossible to get to the ground with fwd. Our fwd platform is not the most optimal for drag racing, but that's not to say the VQ can't handle boost. Top end this car would go, but who races to 150mph?
Old 02-04-2004 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferbs02SMMax
Top end this car would go, but who races to 150mph?
thank you... i know i don't, i hit like 120 and have to shut it down.
Old 02-04-2004 | 05:26 PM
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mad props to pimpjuice on the turbo
do you have a 6 speed with lsd?
Old 02-04-2004 | 09:33 PM
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The turbo may be big, but he still does have half a liter more to work with.

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Old 02-04-2004 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by thebigsadler
thank you... i know i don't, i hit like 120 and have to shut it down.
I think you guys need to lay off the telling him a better way to set up HIS car. Run whatever turbo you want, but for those who can afford a BB turbo and have no problem with it, let him do it. You guy criticise him for something that costs a lot of money plus a lot of time and effort, give the man some damn props for the awesome work he put into it. His car is still gonna be faster than yours, so all you can do is weep that he got the turbo you never could..
Old 02-04-2004 | 10:33 PM
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Thanks for the support guys.
Old 02-05-2004 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by WindFall
I think you guys need to lay off the telling him a better way to set up HIS car. Run whatever turbo you want, but for those who can afford a BB turbo and have no problem with it, let him do it. You guy criticise him for something that costs a lot of money plus a lot of time and effort, give the man some damn props for the awesome work he put into it. His car is still gonna be faster than yours, so all you can do is weep that he got the turbo you never could..
Hahahahaa.. you're an idiot, and I can prove it to you in 2 ways.

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Originally Posted by thebigsadler
If you are so interested in spool time why go with such a large turbo? You won't hit full boost till 4500 probably, even with BB. I see all these people running full T04e, T04s and 60-1's and I don't get why people just don't run a hybrid at higher boost? You have to figure out the fuel issues though, especially with all that power up top..

Good luck and good work.
That was the first thing I said, you can see at the bottom "good work," hence giving him his "damn props."

#2: I have spent probably 5x as much as he has on his car, and probably double what anyone has on this entire forum (if you really want to compare). I don't prance around this forum saying I spent this and I have done this, but when some dumbass opens his mouth, you get your up-and-comings. So that completely negates your comment of me not being able to afford some overpriced and oversized turbo.

There will always be faster cars, no matter what, and it has nothing to do with how much money or how big his turbo is; it's about practicallity and for those of us who know what we are talking about, his turbo choice was not the most practical. So when you can afford to upgrade from your cold air intake, come back and play newbie.
Old 02-05-2004 | 09:03 PM
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That is awesome pimpjuice! Can't wait to see dyno and 1/4 mile times
Old 02-05-2004 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by thebigsadler
Hahahahaa.. you're an idiot, and I can prove it to you in 2 ways.

#1:

That was the first thing I said, you can see at the bottom "good work," hence giving him his "damn props."

#2: I have spent probably 5x as much as he has on his car, and probably double what anyone has on this entire forum (if you really want to compare). I don't prance around this forum saying I spent this and I have done this, but when some dumbass opens his mouth, you get your up-and-comings. So that completely negates your comment of me not being able to afford some overpriced and oversized turbo.

There will always be faster cars, no matter what, and it has nothing to do with how much money or how big his turbo is; it's about practicallity and for those of us who know what we are talking about, his turbo choice was not the most practical. So when you can afford to upgrade from your cold air intake, come back and play newbie.

day-um.... this is one of the better smackdowns i've seen in almost 3 years
Old 02-06-2004 | 12:01 AM
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daaaaayaaaam sadler. he got served...
Old 02-06-2004 | 12:15 AM
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Getting this thing off the line is going to suck. You're going to have to be real careful with the go pedal because as it is stock, you have to work it because it's so easy to spin the tires if too much torque is applied. But after the tires hook up, B-BYE. Can't wait to see the track results for this badboy and hope people start regularly start turboing or SCing the 3.5.
Old 02-06-2004 | 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by thebigsadler
Hahahahaa.. you're an idiot, and I can prove it to you in 2 ways.

#1:

That was the first thing I said, you can see at the bottom "good work," hence giving him his "damn props."

#2: I have spent probably 5x as much as he has on his car, and probably double what anyone has on this entire forum (if you really want to compare). I don't prance around this forum saying I spent this and I have done this, but when some dumbass opens his mouth, you get your up-and-comings. So that completely negates your comment of me not being able to afford some overpriced and oversized turbo.

There will always be faster cars, no matter what, and it has nothing to do with how much money or how big his turbo is; it's about practicallity and for those of us who know what we are talking about, his turbo choice was not the most practical. So when you can afford to upgrade from your cold air intake, come back and play newbie.
thebigsadler

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Old 02-06-2004 | 02:27 AM
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I think Uncle Max spent up north of $10,000 just on the turbo system alone. It was also not a kit. It was all custom design/fabricated also.

The 3.5VQ already has torque up the ying/yang. IMHO, he can afford the later spool

Originally Posted by thebigsadler
#2: I have spent probably 5x as much as he has on his car, and probably double what anyone has on this entire forum (if you really want to compare). I don't prance around this forum saying I spent this and I have done this, but when some dumbass opens his mouth, you get your up-and-comings. So that completely negates your comment of me not being able to afford some overpriced and oversized turbo.
Old 02-06-2004 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by thebigsadler
Hahahahaa.. you're an idiot, and I can prove it to you in 2 ways.

#1:

That was the first thing I said, you can see at the bottom "good work," hence giving him his "damn props."

#2: I have spent probably 5x as much as he has on his car, and probably double what anyone has on this entire forum (if you really want to compare). I don't prance around this forum saying I spent this and I have done this, but when some dumbass opens his mouth, you get your up-and-comings. So that completely negates your comment of me not being able to afford some overpriced and oversized turbo.

There will always be faster cars, no matter what, and it has nothing to do with how much money or how big his turbo is; it's about practicallity and for those of us who know what we are talking about, his turbo choice was not the most practical. So when you can afford to upgrade from your cold air intake, come back and play newbie.
Sadler, what are your dyno numbers? Just curious.
Old 02-06-2004 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Ironlord

day-um.... this is one of the better smackdowns i've seen in almost 3 years
Yeah, that was pretty NASTY ownage by Sadler.

BTW, Sadler's car is nothing to sneeze at, just in case you guys are thinking Sadler's has no bullets in his chamber...
Old 02-06-2004 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 6spmax
Getting this thing off the line is going to suck. You're going to have to be real careful with the go pedal because as it is stock, you have to work it because it's so easy to spin the tires if too much torque is applied. But after the tires hook up, B-BYE. Can't wait to see the track results for this badboy and hope people start regularly start turboing or SCing the 3.5.

I don't think he'll have that hard a time launching it, in all honesty. If the turbo doesn't start pulling hard until ~4500 RPM, then he's going to be just fine. in fact, he might be able to do two burnouts in first...

One at takeoff due to the engines already strong numbers, and another as soon as he starts on the boost.
Old 02-06-2004 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Quicksilver
I don't think he'll have that hard a time launching it, in all honesty. If the turbo doesn't start pulling hard until ~4500 RPM, then he's going to be just fine. in fact, he might be able to do two burnouts in first...

One at takeoff due to the engines already strong numbers, and another as soon as he starts on the boost.
I agree. The 3.5 would be better with a larger turbo and later boost for those exact reasons.
Old 02-06-2004 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by thebigsadler
If you are so interested in spool time why go with such a large turbo? You won't hit full boost till 4500 probably, even with BB. I see all these people running full T04e, T04s and 60-1's and I don't get why people just don't run a hybrid at higher boost? You have to figure out the fuel issues though, especially with all that power up top..

Good luck and good work.

SAdler not to get off topic but it seems that you amongst other ORG members know alot about turbo's. Seeing that IYHO this is not the optimal set up for the 33.5 what turbo would be better and why if you don't mind me asking?
Old 02-06-2004 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Chaser
SAdler not to get off topic but it seems that you amongst other ORG members know alot about turbo's. Seeing that IYHO this is not the optimal set up for the 33.5 what turbo would be better and why if you don't mind me asking?
I think he is just saying that he does not understand why he would put that kind of money into that turbo, instead of another car that has more possiablities.


You just need some slicks, thats all there is too it.
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