I'm trying to find out if these would benifit me at all or no.. I just installed Tein S-tech springs with Tokico Illuminas both and I love the ride and especially the cornering ability of the car. Now I haven't had time to play with the settings on the car and as for right no I've got the Illuminas set at (3) all the way around. So I have yet to see what the difference is when I set them to (5). Anyway, like I said I'm just trying to find out if these would be a great addition to my car or no. Also, is the ride affected at all or no. Thaks for any help you can give me.

 

The braces add structual rigidity beyond belief. I've not done it to the Maxima, but there's no way it can hurt the car. It will actually help to shore up handling.

 

You might be able to run a SOFTER shock setting with the SFCs and still handle better than before. Instead of having the shocks stiffen the handling, the SFCs do it by stiffening the chassis.

 

Right, what you said

 

Sounds good to me. I've got a couple of more things I want to run by you. If you'll ever get on AIM. Anyway, maybe I'll PM you later, unless you can get on AIM now. Thanks for your help though.

 

I don't have much to add technically to your decision making process but I will add this:

I recently rode in another org members (juice) max the other day to see how it felt with the TS ecu. I was impressed by the ECU but just as impressed at how great the car felt compared to lthe last time I drove it. When I asked him what he did, he told me it he added subframe connectors. The car felt incredibly solid. Very impressive modification.

 

are these on the warpspeed website and how much for 2k2
??

-J

 

Yes. http://www.warpspeedperformance.com/sfcgen5/sfcgen5.htm

 

I plan on getting these very very shortly....maybe even next week

 

I want to do these as well... my overall plan is:
1. Tokico Illuminas with stock springs
2. Stage 1+2 SFCs
3. Any other bracings I can find for reasonable price (FSTB, RSB mainly, if they're even necessary)

 

At least you had decent springs (SE model) in your car to begin with. My GLE rear springs were absolutely horrible on the highway with any kind of load in the back end. That's why I switched to the Tein/KYB setup. It is a bit harsher, but it is definitely worth it in the handling tradeoff.

The SFC's are going to cause an immense change in the total dynamic handling of the Maxima...(for the better, I might add)

 

I highly recommended them. There are fitment issues w/the stage 2 and stage 3 if you're running stock b-pipe on the 5th gen. Ask Dallas from Warpspeed if these issues have been addressed. But definately, get the stage one first and see how you like them.

 

That's what I'm hoping.

On another note, my Illuminas should arrive today!
http://spirilis.net/gallery/2000-Max...umina_shipping

 

FYI, as far as I know, the SFC's for our 2k2-2k3's are only available in Stage 1 format....Dallas still hasn't developed stages 2 & 3 that fit without modification.

from what I gather, Dallas finally got a 2k2 or 2k3 in the shop to start production. I will be making a call to him to verify all of this

 

holy cow, so what kind of place could I get these installed? I am definitely all about superb handling.

as far as the fitment issues on 5th gens, what are the issues, exactly? tight fit for the exhaust?

 

I know we've discussed meeting up in the past, but I would love to take a ride to see how they perform before summer gets here.

 

2 Questions:

So does installation of SFC's require welding, or does it bolt up to the frame?

What kind of effect would the SFC's have on the ride quality?

 

stage 1 requires welding; stages 2 & 3 are bolt on

ride quality is increased supposedly due to more rigid chassis and more integral

 

sure, we can meet up some weekend if you like. Email me.

-Vince

 

Is it a harsher ride though?

 

Patrick, from what i've read about SFC's on Maxima's and pretty much every other car out there, the ride should actually be better since the SFC's "forces" your suspension to work like it's supposed to.

Example, instead of having the body flex when hitting a bump. The SFC's will keep the car solid and will allow the suspension to absorb those bumps more.

It's kinda hard to explain, but hopefully you get the idea.

After my accident, though the repairs are top-notch, i do notice that my Max seems a bit "flimsy" now. If i get to it, i'm hoping the SFC will help strengthen it a bit.

 

Thanks for the reply Mike. I guess my common sense was telling me that by stiffening up the chassis, it would result in more harsh feedback through the chassis and/or steering wheel from bumps, etc...

Stage 1 looks pretty damn cool. Looks like it will keep your undercarriage from scraping too...

The cost on these is good, especially when compared to upgrading to Illuminas. I just don't know if I want to do business with WSP again.

 

You're right about the stiffen chassis will result in more communicative ride...some may say it's harsh. Too much stiffen in chassis will results in harsher ride if you don't tune your suspension correctly. With the improved rigidity of the body structure due to the SFC's, the motions are now concentrated and distributed at the suspension area. This means that a fine tuned suspension is crucial in reference to ride quality. I think the adjustable struts will be best for this kind of suspension adjustment since it allows variation in damping motions of the springs.

Everybody have their takes in deciding what's a smooth/harsh ride. IMO, I believe that you just have to experiment w/your suspension (selecting the "right" springs/struts setup) to compliment the improved rigidity of the chassis from the benefits of the SFC's installation.

 

But with stage 1 i can just add stage 2 after or do i need to remove stage 1 to put stage 2?

 

ooo ooo ooo NOVA GTG

 

Thanks for this link. I have been looking for it and couldnt remember where to get them. With the search off it is like pulling your finger nails out trying to hunt down data on this site now.

 

Stage 2 bolts onto stage 1's pads, if I recall correctly... it adds a center plate with some bolted links between the center pads, and then cross-links from the corner of the center plate to the corner pads for the stage 1.