im juss curious cause i picked up a 2k tranny and tore it down and was considering gettin the gears cryo treated. I HEARD the 2k tranny had improved 1st and 3rd gears but not too sure. let me kno what you think. please post what mods you have as well. thanks!

 

It keeps coming back to me and you doesn't it... Let's see, I just blew mine, and then tried to buy a quaife differential so that I could put it in when I fixed it... but no someone who's name I won't mention bought the last one from Cattman 2 days before me............ >:O



I'm really crying inside...

 

hahah sucks for you...heheh

you blew your 2k tranny rite? what mods do you have? i assume 13.2 is your best time? thanks.....

 

I wanna see that ish, Matt.. are you going to bulletproof that bastard?

 

I want to know if the VQ35 Altima 5spd is beefier to handle the extra torque.

 

blew my 4th gear with all the NA bolt ons on the highway going to work like 5K miles ago or so. I was already in 4th accelerating and all the sudden it felt like it poped out of gear. I chewed up all the gears on both input and countershafts. Repleaced just those gears and all the syncros and tranny shifts good as new. Helps if U are a mechanic and do trannies like oil changes hint hint I work at Acura ---> tranie problems left n right.

 

as do i...........

 

BlackBIRDVQ,

What is involved in just changing syncros?

Also, what happens when they start to go bad?

 

It will be difficult to shift into that gear unless you are at the perfect Speed to Motor ratio. It will almost act like you did not push the clutch or missed a shift.

The gear cannot be "syncro"nized with the input shaft speed.

 

As I think I am loosing the sycro in 3rd I have to rev match to get it to snick snick in...otherwise feels like I am pushing on the gate until it lets me in. This is in daily, non aggressive driving.

Also since a Turbo is going in within a year (hopefully, still trying to understand it all) (also watching to see what becomes of SSR's turbo) I am curious as to the failure rate of trannies. I plan only really to boost 10 or less. But like almost everyone, I am SURE I wont be satisfied with that.

 

You just..word for word..described my tranny going into 3rd.

 

I pretty much have everything figured out for ~350+whp reliable.

Just need to take care of some debt before I go back in. Not sure on timeframe though.

 

hummm....so seems like some of you guys have a bad tranny in the works already...shoulda cryo treated them...

my RX7 grinds going into 5th gear, supposely a common problem on the FD, and i think they revised the gear or syncro in 94 or 95. I guess Nissan doesnt see this as a problem..

 

What items are you addressing in the driveline? You know, items, cost, availability and so on. That is something I can do myself (short of cracking open the tranny, but wouldnt mind doing that with someone experienced looking over my shoulder).

 

No boost or engine mods here...PURE STOCK!

Trying to figure out how to prove to Nissan how its failing...change my tranny fluid now 3 times (in 3 years/33K miles) and everytime have had "gold" speckled fluid.

 

I think it's just syncros...can cryo do anything for syncros?

No boost, just didn't know how to double clutch properly for 5-->3rd shifts and I believe the damage is already done.

 

Fidanza flywheel, Exedy clutch, and Quaife(if ever available again), otherwise AE tranny.

I was quoted clutch, flywheel, Quaife install for ~$700, so I'd rather pay to have it done by local installer that did Cattmans' and Joaquins' install.

 

i only have 13k miles on my car, and 3rd grinds when going in and so does 5th, but not as bad. i will need to take it back to nissan to get it fixed. this is going to take a while...

-chris

 

Oh REALLY? So, how far outside Tuscon would that be? My buddy has family in Tuscon and was going to be trailering her out there for Turbo install. But maybe get some other goodies as well.

I wish someone close to Ohio did good work and would be willing to help out. I really would like to do some of that stuff myself...just for the sheer sake of learning.

 

No, in Tucson...dead center IMO.

Turbo install in Tucson? Who?

I have plenty capable friends that could help out, but on that type of stuff IMO, it's MUCH much better to leave it up to a Nissan specialist thats done a few already. Don't quote me on the $700, because it's been awhile so pricing might have changed. I can give you info, if you're serious.

 

I thought there was an SSR shop just outside of Tucson? Maybe I am wrong.

I am more interested in doing myself really. I dont want to crack the tranny case w/o some knowledgeable assistance. But I am not afraid to work on that myself. I can have the car on stands (once May goes by) for weeks at a time...so time pressure is not a variable. Correctness of installation is.

 

No, SSR doesn't have a physical shop yet, but did mention possibly opening one in Phoenix. All their work and fabrication is done in San Diego(IIRC), so nothing is performed in Tucson.

 

I consider myself a tranny abuser, I do hole shots, speed shift... and I've never had a tire last more than 10K miles on the front (drive wheels). Yet my tranny shifts nice and smooth- and still did before it blew apart 4th gear. In order to repleace syncro the tranny has to come apart, all the roll pins taken out of the shift forks, all the detent ***** have to be removed, shifter rod has to be dissassembled. And then U can remove the counter shaft and main shaft along with the shift forks at the same time. Then in order for ya to dissassmble the counter shaft or main shaft, U need a bearing splitter tool and a press. U press off the bearing on the end of the shaft, then U press off the gears. I usually press off like 2-3 of em at a time- speeds up the process. Then U repleace the baulk rings ( nissans word for syncros ) perform any neccessary repairs and re-assemble the shaft and put the tranny back toghter in reverse order of taking it apart ! I charge 500 to do such items as a Quaife and clutch/flywheel and I'm in Chicago.

 

Well I have a 2001, so I blew my stock 5spd tranny... and yes, 13.2 @ 110.6 is my best time...

 

SIngle turbo!!!

 

i am stock also, however I am unsure whether i've been having "grinding" issues with 3rd and 5th gear. It goes in just fine, but when the gear engages into that slot it makes a rather loud noise engaging noise. The noise can be associated with a grind, but only happens when I shift a certain way (palm position, etc). I'm assuming its the synchos despite the gear still going in smoothly and I plan to take it back before my powertrain warranty ends in 5 yrs.

 

is that 500 a piece OR 500 to install Quaife and clutch/flywheel?

What would the service charge be to install syncros or "baulk rings"? Is there a "better/heavier duty" one?

 

I do all for 500 bux, installing new syncros and diff or what not inside the tranny. Since the tranny has to come off in order to rebuild it, I don't charge extra for clutch or a flywheel- now I done some in the car also but this was on my own SE-R... I reather not risk doing it ON the car for someone. I charge 350 for a clutch job on a Maxima- any kind as long as its not a 04 Maxima. 04s are ALOT more complicated as the whole subframe that holds the suspension and engine has to come off. There are no heavy duty syncros for Maximas, I doubt they have any heavy duty syncros for any import car... maybe some Borg Warner T56 Viper, Vette, S/C Cobra and Camars... but I don't follow those junks (cobra is ok) enough to know. For now I'm booked with so many projects and all that doing a clutch on a Max would have to be scheduled ahead of time. I do all this at work after hours or on Saturday, I plan to open up a shop in a distant future where I would do all kinds of jobs, including custom turbo kits- as I have ability to weld and have alot of diff tools-- my toolbox is the width of my Maxima and its bout 7 feet tall full of tools. MATCO baby.

 

Hmmmm...VARY intaresting! I am only about 4 or 5 hours outside of Chicago. Hey...I drive fast!...lol. I would have to track down a quaife first, then decide on clutch and then get boned by Nissan and get Baulk rings.

Any idea on cost of rings, and about (patiently working) how long it would take to do this work?

 

i am having my tranny replace now by nissan. i will tell you, befriend your service writers and your tech. it will get you a long way. bring in coffee and donuts some morning when you have to drop off your car for service. make friends there cause it will get you a favor when you need it. my dealership hooked me up for my tranny. Nissan Corp wanted to rebuild, but they went to the wall for me and got them to agree to a brand new tranny. its on back order until the 16th of may, but at least they are getting it for me. they also said, they would do the clutch at the same time for no add. charges. they have been great to deal with, and i attribute that to the fact that i made friends with them and i have never gone in b1tching about the problems i have been having. it makes a difference, and the difference a dozen donuts and bagels made was a $2500 tranny replacement...for free! good luck, but definitly become a regular in the service dept until you get yours replaced...it will only get worse!

 

He did a clutch, flywheel, y-pipe, hi flow cat, and tore the tranny apart to install a Phantom grip and I was outta there in 6 hours. It would have taken less time but we talked a lot. The whole experience was well worth $500.

BTW: he does very good work and is a good person to just B.S. with.

 

I understand that...but isnt that a kick in the pants that you HAVE to do that for them to DO their job? Its like HAVING to tip someone for horrible service. Before all the comments come forth...I DO understand that being nice gets you further...but having ANY Nissan work done by Nissan....might as well chop off my *****. They damage EVERYTHING they touch...and I have been to 4 different dealers for trival stuff...aint no FRICKIN way they are touchin my chit.

 

i used to feel that way until i changed dealerships...the dealer i leased my 2k from sucked a$$! they treated me like i didn't know jack, constantly denied i had any issues, and blew me off several times. when they did take a look, it was as if it was an inconvienence...i was wasting their time with frivolous issues that i should just deal with! they really ****ed me off, but the dealership i go to now, like i said, they have done a great job, they don't give me **** for my mods, and they give the benifit of the doubt, and sometimes even take care of the stuff they don't have to...under warranty that expeired 5k ago. i don't think its like tipping for bad service, i just think its good will. whats $12 when it could save you 10x that...i agree with you in the fact that i would never have done that with my old dealership! that would be like tipping for sh1tty service. fill out the surveys they send out, or call nissan consumer affairs and complain...that usually gets the stick out of their a$$es. expecially if you do it a couple times.

 

I belive my wholesale price for all the syncros was around 240 bux if I remember correctly. I am not 100% sure but I paid something like 340 bux for my 4th gears and all the syncros. Rebuilding the tranny would take me much more time than just phantom grip alone, alot more stuff has to be done in order to install new syncros, and new springs. I ususally take my sweet time when I'm inside the tranny, unless its a RSX trans I tend to spend about 3 hours on just rebuilding a Nissan trans. RSX-s I do in like 30 min and install em back in the car. RSX tranny is the eassiest trans in the world to rebuild. Maxima one is by far alot tougher to rebuild, because its way overbuilt vs RSX. Nissan tends to overbuild everything and over-engineer it vs Honda that just makes things simple.

 

Intresting... show i should just randomly run in there and say "look everyone! i have doughnuts and coffee for all!" i think that wouls look odd... besides, i can not afford buying anything... the car/insurance is draining me of all my money and then some. can't wait untill i turn 21 so my rates go down... meh. i have already had 4 problems with the car, and it has only been 3 weeks.... i am really debating if i should just give the damn car back to them and just buy a brand new Z. i hate used cars. *sigh* *end of rant*

-Chris

 

what are U doing driving a Maxima under the age of 21 anyways ? I know people who come into our dealership and bring us coffe and donuts or pizza durring lunch. Man they go out of their way to satisfy customers who are not a pain in the **** to deal with. Being curtious and relaxed bout the car is cool, don't play "mr I know it all cause I read it on the internet". I get these kids with RSX-S coming in all the time with mods, if I go for a test drive with em, and I see they beat the **** out of the car I will make them stop, and I get out of the car tell em to leave and I get a ride back to the shop. No warranty. But if the dude is cool, and tells me U know I do drag race this car sometimes or do this this n that, and I don't see any rice on his car, I will hook him up with some kinda warranty work so it won't cost him a dime. I try to help out people who are nice to me and their car. But if I see someone coming in with all kinds of hacked up shiat then its no warranty what so ever. U kids want us to belive U don't beat the **** out of your car ? When I was 16 I drove a beat to hell Isuzu I-Mark, 1.5L carburated, then I stepped up to a rusted out Isuzu Impulse RWD turbo 5spd.... my best car I ever owned was when I was 18 I bought myself a used 93 Sentra SE-R with only 60K on the odo and it was like 4 years old. I still consider that the best car I ever owned, in the same time frame I also had a 00 Audi S4 and the SE-R, blew the engine up on the Audi while I worked for them, warrantied it myself, and got rid of it. Got my Maxima and I still had the SE-R. I forgot to mention I also owned a 650WHP Twin Turbo Z when I was 19 for a few months, fixed it and sold it. 350Zs are crap.

 

What do you mean by this? Do you think that a 20 year old can not have a nice car?

-chris