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Old 05-11-2004, 08:53 AM
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Grounding The Maxima

Just wondering has anyone Grounded out there Maxima and if so what does it do and how does it effect the Performance? I have been trying to read up on Grounding a Vehicle and it seems it will help out the Electrical System and A better ground gives more Torque,better Mileage, better Response, and better Starting Ability. So does anyone have any information on Grounding Kits?



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Old 05-11-2004, 09:16 AM
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I made my own. I'm pretty sure it made a difference, albeit subtle, but every little bit helps. It helped make the engine respond a little more "smoothly", especially in stop'n'go driving--basically made driving a clutch a little easier.
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I did this also

And agree with spirilis, unless you are looking for something to change, effects are virtually unnoticable.

In my car I put them on and noticed:
1) Car is easier to crank and fire (not hard to be begin with but easier now)
2) Easy to catch if I miss first crank.
3) HVAC Fan does not slow down now when I have rear defroster on at idle
4) Windows now roll up and down at "as new" speed. They have been slowing down over time.

Engine is a TAD smoother...but again...mine wasnt rough to begin with.
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where is the write-up on doing this?
i saw one before that showed the grounding points.
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Old 05-11-2004, 09:55 AM
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Write Ups

I couldn't find anything in the How To Section on how to install these wires but I would like to see how its done as I would like to get a kit for my Maxima. Anyone have any pictures or write ups on this procedure?
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where is the write-up on doing this?
i saw one before that showed the grounding points.
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Old 05-11-2004, 10:33 AM
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If you you get the kit from Matt93SE, he will include a webpage that explains where everything goes. His kit is around 50 bucks.

Its not hard. But basically you are:
*) taking ANOTHER ground from the battery to the block ground.
*) Taking left hand grounds from valve cover to the right hand side block ground
*) Taking a part of the alternator ground and attaching to the block ground as well.
*) You DONT remove the factory grounds the grounding kits are IN ADDITION to the factory wiring.

It took me about 60 minutes to install, mostly because I took a dremel and cleaned all the connections off and cleaned the factory wire connection off as well. Also my car is a bastard and has 1/2 00 build techniques in it and 1/2 01 build techniques.

Make sure to use di-electric grease to protect the connetions.
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Old 05-11-2004, 10:35 AM
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There's tons of info out there on the main forums about grounding kits..

some info on them on my webpage: http://www.mattblehm.com/engine.html

(and yes, I sell them for 3,4,5,5.5 gens)


The benefits listed on my site are the typical responses I hear from people who have installed them on their cars, as well as my personal experience with my car.
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Old 05-11-2004, 12:29 PM
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what Matt's kit looks like installed!







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Old 05-11-2004, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by spirilis
I made my own. I'm pretty sure it made a difference, albeit subtle, but every little bit helps. It helped make the engine respond a little more "smoothly", especially in stop'n'go driving--basically made driving a clutch a little easier.

I would like to make my own .Could you give me the length of each wire and what you use to make them and from where (or part # if possible)
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Old 05-11-2004, 04:45 PM
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So all grounding does is connect a few more wires from possible electrical leaks to the frame of the car essentially. I dunno why, i always assumed there was more to it. So if ya bought some monster cable or somethin with like 4 gauge or whatever some real fat wire would be, you could just hook up the "hot spots" and be done with it?
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Old 05-11-2004, 06:27 PM
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Speaking of grounding... 2 days ago I bought Nismo(prolly chinese knock-off) grounding kit on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ADME:B:BN:MT:1
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That what I got off from Ebay too. It works just fine. It comes w/6 wires and I had 4-4 gauges wires prior to the Ebay "Nismo" product.

FYI: I grounded all the wires directed from the negative battery post (I have red top Optima so there is another negative grounding point on the battery) to all the OEM's grounding points and the rest to the engine block, throttle body, and the frame.

Btw, the car is much smoother in operation and start easier. Also, the dimming light that I got since I had the UDP's installed has been eliminated.

Better groundings to any electrical components are always a plus. I highly recommend this cheap mods!
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Old 05-12-2004, 03:21 AM
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dammit. more spending coming
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Old 05-12-2004, 05:17 AM
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FYI, if you're thinking of making your own and you don't have a crimping tool for crimping large cables, etc. then you might want to go ahead and buy Matt's kit. $50 is about what you'd spend anyway if you went around buying the supplies at local stores, in addition to a crimping tool.

I don't particularly care to pull mine apart to check the lengths, since at least one of the cables is rather hard to get to. I just sorta made it up on the fly.
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I agree with spirillis above. Plus, I was the first 5th Gen to have Matt's grounding kit, and I absolutely WILL NOT take the kit out to pirate all the specs for anyone else to duplicate. If you don't want to buy a kit, make up your own from scratch.

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Old 05-12-2004, 08:21 AM
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How Easy

How easy was the install with Matts Kit? Did you notice any kind of gains at all ?

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I agree with spirillis above. Plus, I was the first 5th Gen to have Matt's grounding kit, and I absolutely WILL NOT take the kit out to pirate all the specs for anyone else to duplicate. If you don't want to buy a kit, make up your own from scratch.

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Old 05-12-2004, 10:11 AM
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Install was very easy. I noticed the same things mentioned by the people above: smoother idle & acceleration, plus it took the "fuzziness" out of my tweeters. Granted, these changes are small, but noticeable. Plus the way the wires are routed, the ends, terminals, and shrink sleeves are done, it looks like it was part of the factory wiring-I went with the black cable. I show my car, so this was very important to me. No "bundle of snakes" running all over the place like some of the kits I've seen.
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Old 05-12-2004, 10:59 AM
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I bought the Stillen kit. It's simple and you wouldn't notice it unless you knew what it was. Yeah, it's pricey, $129, but it's well done and not overkill with a whole bunch of wires running everywhere.
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Originally Posted by hct67
How easy was the install with Matts Kit? Did you notice any kind of gains at all ?
Easy...took me just under an hour and I did overkill and cleaning up the factory connections.

If you dont want to build it yourself...Matt's kit is cake and worth it!. My time was for sure worth sitting and measuring, crimping, shrink tubing and verifying. I barely have time to take a crap anymore...
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I made my own kit,But i need the hot spots where to conect the monster cable so i can cut it to the length needed.

Is there write-up for the intallation .

BTW it only cost me $17 for all the parts.Thanks
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Old 05-13-2004, 09:10 AM
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I just saw these SUN kits last weekend at a car show booth. Looked pretty simple EXCEPT the wire consists of hundreds(thousand or so maybe?) of super small/fine wires vs. several large strands like most audio stuff I've seen. I'd say that reduces resistance somewhat vs. larger strands, but it at least makes the wires super flexible. Not sure if the resistance difference is considerable though.

Also, it had some "box" that connected from the positive to negative battery terminal. Not sure what that is though.

Terminals just looked like any stereo gold plated stuff, nothing special with heat shrink.
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