Lack of Power TSB.
05-26-2004, 05:27 PM
#1
Lack of Power TSB.
My Maxima doesn't feel like new anymore. I think it's lacking of power and may very well qualify for the lack of power TSB. When going to the dealer for engine sensor replacement the other day, I also told the service manager that my car is lacking of power and I showed him the TSB. After doing the engine sensor replacement, he said the usual "cannot re-create problems" bull****.
My car is still under warranty and I'm wondering if I should make the dealer do the TSB or should I do it myself? Also, people have been reporting huge success with MAF sensor #22680-2Y001 or the new updated part number #22680-AD210. But on the TSB itself, it says replace MAF sensor with 22680-AM600. What's the difference?
I can change the MAF sensor and reset my ECU but I cannot reprogram it, like the TSB says.
~limsandy
My car is still under warranty and I'm wondering if I should make the dealer do the TSB or should I do it myself? Also, people have been reporting huge success with MAF sensor #22680-2Y001 or the new updated part number #22680-AD210. But on the TSB itself, it says replace MAF sensor with 22680-AM600. What's the difference?
I can change the MAF sensor and reset my ECU but I cannot reprogram it, like the TSB says.
~limsandy
05-26-2004, 06:02 PM
#3
Just go to a different dealer man... The lack of power TSB is a must do. I felt noticable gains in power so you should definitely get it done. There is no reason for you to spend money on a TSB... get it done by a different dealer, even if you have to drive like 50 miles or something...
05-26-2004, 08:07 PM
#5
FYI: Make sure that the dealer you bring your car to for the TSB, can reprogram the ECU along with the new MAF's (if your car is not equipped with it already).
The first dealer I brought my car for the TSB for lack of power, they told me they couldn't reprogrammed the car. All they did was just changed the MAF's. My car was running kinda crappy and I didn't know why.
When I brought my car to another dealer for the crankcase sensor recall, this dealer was able to upgraded my ECU's without any issue and my car since run much smoother/better...no hestitation! The reprogram was done before the crankcase sensor replacement.
The first dealer I brought my car for the TSB for lack of power, they told me they couldn't reprogrammed the car. All they did was just changed the MAF's. My car was running kinda crappy and I didn't know why.
When I brought my car to another dealer for the crankcase sensor recall, this dealer was able to upgraded my ECU's without any issue and my car since run much smoother/better...no hestitation! The reprogram was done before the crankcase sensor replacement.
05-27-2004, 08:18 AM
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how long did it take you guys for the lack of power tsb to get fixed? i think i am suffering from this too 
since the other day the car just doesnt feel like it has as much power overall....some say it might just be me getting used to it but i just have this funny feeling...i was curious about how long it takes cuas i do not have much time that i can be w/out my car right now
since the other day the car just doesnt feel like it has as much power overall....some say it might just be me getting used to it but i just have this funny feeling...i was curious about how long it takes cuas i do not have much time that i can be w/out my car right now
05-27-2004, 10:28 AM
#8
The Lack of Power/Hesitation TSB applies to any and all electronically throttle controlled Altimas and Maximas (2002-2003). It can call for the replacement of you MAf sensor as well. The TSB outlines all this information. Do not let them try the "can not duplicate" BS...
05-27-2004, 05:29 PM
#11
Thanks to those who replied.
AFAIK, TSB will be performed, but you'll have to pay for labor and or parts, if you warranty has expired. But if your warranty has expired, recalls like the engine sensor will be performed free.
~limsandy
AFAIK, TSB will be performed, but you'll have to pay for labor and or parts, if you warranty has expired. But if your warranty has expired, recalls like the engine sensor will be performed free.
~limsandy
05-27-2004, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by limsandy
Thanks to those who replied.
AFAIK, TSB will be performed, but you'll have to pay for labor and or parts, if you warranty has expired. But if your warranty has expired, recalls like the engine sensor will be performed free.
~limsandy
AFAIK, TSB will be performed, but you'll have to pay for labor and or parts, if you warranty has expired. But if your warranty has expired, recalls like the engine sensor will be performed free.
~limsandy
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....91#post2982691
If possible I would just try out the new MAF and see if that solves the problem. Then, read some posts from people who have gotten the ECM update and decide if you want to do it yourself. My car "feels" more refined now than when it was new, but somehow, I feel like I lost something along the way. At any rate, I was suffering from the power loss and I'm guessing the problem was just the MAF and nothing more. I do highly recommend replacing your CAM/CRANK sensors since this smoothed out my rough idle and helped with the mid rpm noise everyone complained about. A big fix in the ECM update was "supposed" to fix the hesitation lots of people were complaining about, but I think all they did was make the accelerator mapping more aggressive under low angles . . . I'd love to see a definitive list of Nissan fixes/changes from code release to code release too.
05-27-2004, 08:14 PM
#14
http://www.nissannews.com/nissan/war...ty%20Chart.pdf
warranty info is here. If one dealer doesn't help you, try another one.
I had this TSB done on my 2K2 when I had 41,979 miles. I'm sure this will be covered under emission warranty. email or pm me if you would like a copy of my invoice.
Dave
warranty info is here. If one dealer doesn't help you, try another one.
I had this TSB done on my 2K2 when I had 41,979 miles. I'm sure this will be covered under emission warranty. email or pm me if you would like a copy of my invoice.
Dave
05-28-2004, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by limsandy
I've read that someone in the .org, I think it was maxed up, blew his MAF again because he didnt get the ECM updated.
~limsandy
~limsandy
05-28-2004, 10:19 AM
#18
Originally Posted by ABS
If that's true, then you don't have a choice. A lot of people seem to have burned out their MAFS from using K&N oiled filters - perhaps that's what happened to maxed up? The new code update isn't bad, in fact, when I first got it, I immediately realized how badly I needed the fix because my car HAD been running poorly. I just feel now that the car doesn't have the same power it had when it was new but it is definitely much better than it had been just prior to the TSB . . .
I think the oil on the sensor (MAF) problem is totally bogus. I've never had a problem with my car, and it's had a K&N panel filter since day one. As a matter of fact...I've never had a MAF god bad on ANY car that I've had an aftermarket intake on. It's just a pi$$ poor system/parts design, which is, unfortunately, Nissan's way of doing things...
05-28-2004, 04:41 PM
#20
Originally Posted by maximadave
It shows on page 10 that the MAF sensor is covered for 8yr/80K miles! Make a copy of the TSB and warranty page and take it to the dealer.
Yeah, Dave. I showed them the TSB but they just said they couldnt duplicate the problem and so they didnt change the MAF sensor and update the ECM. Bunchofdiks.
~limsandy
05-28-2004, 05:22 PM
#21
They cant duplicate the problem simply because they dont know what it is. They dont remember how the car used to drive. Basically if you dont use premium gas, thats the only legit reason they can turn u away.
What you have to tell them is that there is indeed a problem. Then ask them what exactly they are looking for. After you finish telling them that they are on a wild goose chase. Ask them niceely to perform the software flash. You can even be so generous as to pay them for the 1/2 hour of labor it will take. That will get it done for sure.....
What you have to tell them is that there is indeed a problem. Then ask them what exactly they are looking for. After you finish telling them that they are on a wild goose chase. Ask them niceely to perform the software flash. You can even be so generous as to pay them for the 1/2 hour of labor it will take. That will get it done for sure.....
05-29-2004, 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by limsandy
I've read that someone in the .org, I think it was maxed up, blew his MAF again because he didnt get the ECM updated.
~limsandy
~limsandy
05-29-2004, 01:14 PM
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I had to go to a couple of dealers before I found one who would perform the TSB. Another good persuasion technique is to tell the Service writer that you'll give the dealership an A+ on the after service survey that NNA sends to you once the service is completed. I think the success of the service department helps translate into better access to higher profit vehicles like the 350Z for dealership itself.
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