i recently found an article in super street, yes i read those kinds of publications, chastice if u must but anyway. AEBS racing, www.aebsracing.com has a kit for the 3.5 which bumps it to a 4.3l. i called the company and asked about it.

1. u send them your block, they re-sleive it, new balanced crank, the whole nine yards.
2. pricing around 78, from what he said, im gonna safely assume theat 7800.
3. theyre protype building a rear-drive block, hush/hush i wasnt supposed to say anything, but if they are willing to tell someone on the phone whos just asking questions, im sure they wont have too much of a prob with me spilling, but it has something near 1200-1400hp
4. they dont have anything currently out for the 3.0
5. they said power of about 420ish, i think he said like 428 or soemthing like that, he was very exact, with a na engine, he said they would last till 2000hp with a turbo or supercharger, but he doubts anyone would actually hit that.

 

You do know that the block doesn't make any power right?

 

yeah but having the whole block rebuild and balanaced and everything, with all the parts in it does.

 

The diplacement increase will increase torque. But you whole description left out the primary hp maker. The heads. Without the heads/manifold etc... you don't make squat.

 

im hoping that the kit includes the heads.
i posted all the info i have. if i had a 3.5 id inquire a litle further but since i dont,i just thouhgt id try and inform all of you

 

and don't forget without out a good set of cams and the proper engine management software modifications as well as much larger injectors you wont do squat.

 

it is a stroker kit. id like to assume it includes most of what u would need, it sounds rather new, so how much is known still seems far less than i would like

 

This is what is lists as parts included with the kit...

Kit contents:

T-Sleeves

* Patented three-dimensional support design eliminates sleev movement under extreme dynamic load
* Solid deck T - Sleeve technology provides greater head gasket surface sealant area
* Additional piston skirt support for new stroke

Connecting Rods

* Pauter E.D.M drilled for wrist pin lubrication and piston cooling utilizing under-the-piston oil spray

Pistons (3 types available)

* Turbo 8.5 : 1 / 100mm, engine size 4231.16cc
* N/A 11.0 : 1 / 101.5mm, engine size 4269.35cc
* N/A 11.5 : 1 / 101.5mm, engine size 4269.35cc
* Includes chrome steel rings, wrist pins and clips

Head gasket

* Custom cut Cometic head gasket

Crankshaft

* Material: 9325 (custom billet steel, same material used in Top Fuel NHRA engines)
* Stroke: 90mm (stock is 81mm)

AEBS VQ35DE Stroker Kit are custom made to order.
Please call 858.693.3200 for applications and pricing.

Uses stock heads, unless you want to use the NISMO racing heads for the VQ35...

 

Won't an increase in torque(even without an increase in HP) help acceleration times?

 

Yes but traction will be a MAJOR problem for front wheel drive configuration. All that torque is a waste if you looking to launch the car from a stop. However, the addition torque will make the car feels effortless at cruising.

 

why are you guys throwing out statements like this? More displacement with the same compression and equivalent engine speed will ALWAYS make more power. You act like HP and torque are not connected. HP is just a function of torque and work done over time.

 

That's correct, and if everyone will notice, the CR is HIGHER on the stroked motor kit (up from 10.3:1 to either 11:1 or 11.5:1 ratios). That will definitely make more power across the board!

 

Maybe I should ask the bigger question then. Is this worth doing or not?? 7800 is a little steap, but to take horsepower into the low 400's, I think that is a dramatic increase... What do you guys think??

 

why can't somebody come out with a sensable kit that costs around 2-3,000$. Who the hell want over 400 HP in a family sedan?? Also

 

why can't somebody come out with a sensable kit that costs around 2-3,000$. Who the hell want over 400 HP in a family sedan?? Also $7800? The may sell 1 kit. The supercharger is less than that.

 

Well to me, $7,800 spent on the shortblock and $0 spend on the heads/intake manifold/tb/maf and ecu is a major misallocation of funds.

 

Only people who will drop 8g on that engine are those that have too much money and time on their hands. It makes for some really nice project engines assuming you also drop a turbo afterwards, however, total out of the door we are talking more than what 90% of maximas are worth.

Still, would be nice to actually see it done, not just on paper.

 

Nobody wants a 400 HP family sedan for $7,800. But a G35c or a 350Z, yes.

 

E55, M5, RS6.

 

I'd pass!

Too much power for a FWD car.

The question is this though....what's next for the Maxima and Altima.

Now that they've pushed the hp ratings of the G35's for 2005, I'm guessing the Maxima and Altima will follow for 2006.

I'd say (275 hp and 270 tq) for Maxima and a much more minor increase for the Altima (probably 255 hp and 250 tq).

But really on the FWD platform, it's silly to do anymore. And with the 3.5 liter probably peaking in power at the 300-310 hp range. What then?

As it stands I'd take the 3.5 liter rated at 305 hp and 280 ft-lbs of tq before the 4.5 liter rated at 340 hp and 333 tq.

Is there room for Nissan to bore or stroke out the 3.5 liter anymore? To say 3.8 liters??
And if that's possible, will the Maxima and Altima move to RWD in a few years? Maybe taking the current FM platform once Nissan/Infiniti improve upon it and make a new platform for the Z and G cars.

Just curious what people think.

 

are you kidding me? who wants a 400 hp "family sedan"

i do.

And so do you, stop lying to yourself.

If you got money, you can buy whatever you want. a 350z? That's great, if you have one already, personally, i think a 400 hp sleeper would be dope as ****.

 

Actually more people than you think. A market does exist, look at the M5, along with the new Supercharged M-B products, i.e. E55, S55, along with the aforementioned RS6. You don't see many, but they are out there...

There is a market for high-horsepower sedans, however since these cars are leagues above the Maxima, those potential buyers would never even think of buying a Maxima, or any Infiniti for that matter. These people are making $100K easy and can spend some $$ on a bad-a$$ ride.

FWIW, I want 400hp sedan. Ultimate sleeper.

 

M5, E55, S55, RS6, not family sedans. They are luxury sport sedans, and RWD.

And FWIW, would you spend $8,000 to make your Max that ultimate sleeper? I doubt it.

 

Bah, i can still fit a family in an S55 and any of those cars.

 

I agree. It's not that people don't want a 400+hp "family sedan" they just don't want it in FWD!

I'd take 400 hp in the G35 without blinking twice, but in the Maxima??? Nope.

And personally you'd have to have the brains of the tin man to spend $8 grand on mod's to the Maxima.
That would only be the BEGINNING of your spending with all the damage that 400+ hp would do to every other part of the car. The chassis would probably twist like a pretzel.

I've never understood those brainless kids who spend $15K on a Civic, then drop another $10K to try to make it go fast. When they could of just spent $25K on a car that will whip the "riced" or "ghettoed" Civic's **** anyway!

 

You can put your family in an S55, what's your point? The guy said family sedan, you brought up luxury sport sedan.

I know they are RWD, what's your point?

I wouldn't, and I doubt you would either. I'd be nuts to dump $8K for a motor when I have to upgrade suspension and trans, and still deal with fwd platform. Let alone a car that will be worth peanuts when it is all said and done, and in a car that I wont keep for more than 3 years anyway. I'm not the only person that will dump a car after the warranty is gone.

 

this may come as a shock to all of you. But the AEBS kit was not designed for your average tuner. In fact.. it may not even have been designed for the maxima at all *GASP*

In fact.. perhaps this kit was originally designed for professional race teams who plan to take the VQ35 in a Z or other FM platform to 1000+ hp levels? Think about that before you complain about the price and feasability. Yeah yeah, it's too expensive and not streetable for us. Ask AEBS if they care, was never their intention anyway.

If you want streetability, go buy a greddy evo =P

 

Any VQ35 engine.
www.nissanperformancemag.com
http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/june04/aebs/

article for everyone to read, 400hp FWD sedan, why not? We do have a few Maximas on the board rolling with 400hp wether crank or wheel hp.
Gets me thinking, FX35 w/ 4.3 stroker low C/R, ProCharged. Thats sleeper. AWD baby ! !

 

Kojiro_FtT said
M5, E55, S55, RS6, not family sedans. They are luxury sport sedans, and RWD.

And FWIW, would you spend $8,000 to make your Max that ultimate sleeper? I doubt it.

I only said i'd like one. If i would do it, i'd have the means. I just don't understand why alot of guys on here are hating on this, like the maxima is some lame FWD car.



Driver72 said

And personally you'd have to have the brains of the tin man to spend $8 grand on mod's to the Maxima.
That would only be the BEGINNING of your spending with all the damage that 400+ hp would do to every other part of the car. The chassis would probably twist like a pretzel.

I've never understood those brainless kids who spend $15K on a Civic, then drop another $10K to try to make it go fast. When they could of just spent $25K on a car that will whip the "riced" or "ghettoed" Civic's **** anyway!
....


The brains of a tin man? Well i guess alot of people are pretty dumb, since alot of people have probally spent an excess of that on their maximas. Have you seen pcguru's old car? Or any of the boosted maximas? Check out deac's car. Last i heard he's putting down over 400 horses, i haven't heard of his body twisting like a pretzel.

Please explain how the body will twist like a pretzel? You sound like a jealous person, if you wanted my opinion. Don't worry about how people spend their money, mind your own.

Someone is bound to do this, and all of you guys that hate, will probablly put their foots in their mouths. I don't see why you guys post on this forum, if the maxima is such a "lame" fwd car, not worthy of modding. To each their own.

 

Wow...I just (once again) realized that very few people know anything about what they are trying to discuss. 400 HP will "twist the frame like a pretzel"

Thanks for the laughs!

 

I'll join in on the laughing

 

If we get insane Torque steer on a 255....imagine on a 400+

You'd need to bench heavy weights to hold that...hehehe

 

I seriously don't notice the TQ steer at all. It just doesn't bother me like everyone else claims it bothers them...

 

While I am trying hard to ignore the idiocy here...I will add my .02 and say that torque steer would be outrageous on a 400 + hp FWD Maxima. Would it be unmanagable? Who knows.

 

TQ steer does not bother me either -and in any event, it was much reduced when I installed the lowering springs.....I'm certain the more negative camber resulting from the drop actually reduced TQ steer.

My problem with spending that amount of money on the Max is that I'm spending it on a Max. Dont get me wrong, I much enjoy my car and will likely drive it into the ground (fat chance since it still has only 24.5k mles on it in 34 months) but that said, one cannot ignore the fact that it's a nine-year-old platform, has completely antiquated suspension, etc etc.

 

The torque would have a hard time just finding the frame on a Max since it's of unibody construction.

 

Damnit!! When are they ever going to correct this bad info???


A 101.5mm bore and a 90mm stroke is 4369cc NOT 4269. The NA kit is 4.4 liters not 4.3.

And can we please sticky this AEBS stuff or else we're doomed to a new post about it every week.

 

Quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally Posted by Quicksilver
400 HP will "twist the frame like a pretzel"

Thanks for the laughs!


I got to say that is funny....

 

Nissan mentions a 4.0 V6 for 2005 vehicles frontier, xterra, and pathfinder... of course they're all rear wheel drive... dunno fellas...

 

But they don't mention my 2002 Maxima.