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Old 07-23-2004, 07:12 PM
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How many rim choices did the 5th gen come with?

I know many of you are thinking "duh, it's 3!" and I know what 3 you're all thinking about (6-spoke, 5-spoke, multi-spoke/hubcap lookin' rim)...but on ocassion I've seen GXEs with 16'' rims that looked an awful lot like the hubcaps that come on a base Altima. I've seen them more than once and in different areas, too. What's the deal? Was their a limited run of another choice of rims?
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Are the Altima-looking ones really rims or hubcaps? I see them too on some GXEs. I don't know what's the logic behind this. Some 2000-2001 GLEs (some of the ones without the optional spoiler) come with the multi-spoke GXE rim too. Others without a spoiler come with 5-spoke too.

Two off-topic questions: Is there such a thing as a 5spd GXE? I swear I saw one for sale online, but it didn't seem right.

The other question is if the 5-spoke rims are 16" only. I think only GLE comes with those. And 5.5 GXE

edit: Here's a pic of what you're talking about and this Max comes with a sunroof, might that be why?

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There are 4 wheels on the early 5th gens:
I think it goes like this:
early 2000 GXEs had 16" (or maybe 15" ?)steelies with HUBCAPS (the picture above)
later 2000 GXE/GLEs had 16" rims that look alot like the hubcaps, but are 1-piece rims.
2001 GLEs had 16" 5-spoke rims (not sure about this one, but I know certain 2001's have these)
SEs and some GLEs (?) had 17" 6-spoke rims.

Here's my SE with 17's and Jason (soonerfan)'s GLE with the 16" rims that "look like hubcaps"
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WOW thats my car in the picture ! 5spd GXE with 205-65-15 steelie wheels and hub caps... shes looking STROOOONG look at that wheel gap. When people ask me whats my drop- I tell em I run custom Konis on 3.5" drop with Ground Controlls.
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there are some ses on the 5 spokes also aren't there
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Originally Posted by irish44j
There are 4 wheels on the early 5th gens:
I think it goes like this:
later 2000 GXE/GLEs had 16" rims that look alot like the hubcaps, but are 1-piece rims.
2001 GLEs had 16" 5-spoke rims (not sure about this one, but I know certain 2001's have these)
SEs and some GLEs (?) had 17" 6-spoke rims.
Most 2000/2001 GLEs and all2000/2001 GLEs with spoiler have 5-spoke 16" (provided there are no GLEs with 17" - not sure). At least I've never seen a GLE with spoiler and multi-spoke rims, those are only GXEs (like Alicia's, she's on the org)
Now, just like you I wonder if there were any 2000-2001 GLEs with 17" 6-spoke rims.
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I think the 17's were specifically for the SE's, since they have a lower-profile tire (i.e. for a "sportier and less plush ride" to go with the SE's stiffer suspension)

but there's always the chance that someone special ordered the 17's for their GLE/GXE or bargained the dealer into putting some on when the car was bought new.

wade - I think you'r right - a few really early 2000 SE's had the 16" 5-spokes, before the 17" 6-spokes were released later inthe model year
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BTW no GXE had a OE sunroof on it. This is not a GLE cause all GLEs had fog lights. Its possible its a 5spd, cause its white. Only White and black where avalible with a 5spd. Most of them came with floor mats, mud flaps and a incabin microfilter. When GXE was equipped with a auto tranny the choice of colors broadened up a bit. My GXE is a 5spd with just mud flaps, floor mats, and microfilter. I bought mine brand new out the door with taxes and everything for 20743 bux.
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sure doesn't look like a GXE now.
Maybe you should put a "GXE-R" badge on it!
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17s where an option on a SE all the time, its just that most dealers optioned the SE that way. I'm doing a 6spd manual conversion on a 00 SE Auto right now and it has 16" 5spokes.
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Actually thats why I have the SE-R badge on mine... I have the lightest of all 5th gens Horsepower aint shizznit if the yo car is a automatic 03 SE with all the gizzmos plus a system and trying to take on something with less weight but with a measly 3.0L ( Never lost to a 3.5L on the highway yet even a 350Z )
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Originally Posted by BlackBIRDVQ
WOW thats my car in the picture ! 5spd GXE with 205-65-15 steelie wheels and hub caps... shes looking STROOOONG look at that wheel gap. When people ask me whats my drop- I tell em I run custom Konis on 3.5" drop with Ground Controlls.
LOL my stock gap is if not even bigger... the same as my friend's rear gap on his Pathfinder, not kidding And people keep asking me why I don't want a cardomain page
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Old 07-23-2004, 08:16 PM
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hey I've seen your car...it's not that bad!

all maximas are born with the gap....nothing embarassing about it. That ground/wheelwell clearance comes in handy when driving into the snowy mountains when the ice starts collecting in the wheelwells (though I would guess you don't have that problem in miami )
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Old 07-23-2004, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by irish44j
hey I've seen your car...it's not that bad!

all maximas are born with the gap....nothing embarassing about it. That ground/wheelwell clearance comes in handy when driving into the snowy mountains when the ice starts collecting in the wheelwells (though I would guess you don't have that problem in miami )
Exaaactly! No mountains or snow and no potholes like in NY. But we 2k owners have such a 4x4 gap that our cars dropped look like 5.5gen stock That's what I was just telling Bluesbrekr. I need to do something about mine...
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Old 07-23-2004, 08:36 PM
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I always get a laugh when I go out front to have a smoke....

I park in front of my townhouse (parallel parking)...my neighbor on the left has a Hyundai Sonata with 15" steelies/hubcaps. my neighbor on the right's daughter has a tercel with 14" steelies/hubcaps. My OEM 17s look HUUUGGGEEE! haha
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Old 07-23-2004, 08:45 PM
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Irish stop teasing.. as if 5.5 genners weren't enough to tease us with what not, you're now making me jealous because of your 17"s. My Falkens are so darn meaty!
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I thought so. Well that clears the air up.

BTW: I've seen SEs with 5-spokes many times too. Never seen a GLE with 6-spoke, though.
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Originally Posted by Maximadmoiselle
Irish stop teasing.. as if 5.5 genners weren't enough to tease us with what not, you're now making me jealous because of your 17"s. My Falkens are so darn meaty!
yes, people are often amazed at the size of my.......er.......rims (j/j!!!)

anyhow, today I hit road debris (apparently) that I didn't see....flattened both left side tires (falken 512's getting low on tread)...turns out they were both punctured on the edge near the sidewall (non-repairable, dammit)..no sign of what did it...so just went ahead and replaced all 4 with another set of Falken 512's (except went to 235 width instead of 225 width this time...) since I was gonna replace them in September anyways....

ok...well that was off-topic, but since you said Falkens I figured I'd b1tch for a moment....
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Originally Posted by BlackBIRDVQ
Actually thats why I have the SE-R badge on mine... I have the lightest of all 5th gens Horsepower aint shizznit if the yo car is a automatic 03 SE with all the gizzmos plus a system and trying to take on something with less weight but with a measly 3.0L ( Never lost to a 3.5L on the highway yet even a 350Z )
y our cars are so light? coz we got nothing ?.........but some shxtty 16 ugly rims?..
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U should get a set of Falken Azenis Sports ! Since ya gonna repleace them in september..... I figure U have winter tires ? but that early ? I run them in 245-45-17" size.
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no not enough snow here to justify winter tires - plus 16" rims willnot fit over my 2k4 front rotors...I like the 512s because they grip awesome in rain and snow so I can use them year-round. Plus, they are really inexpensive (got all 4 today for $400, no kidding, in 235/45/17...) even though I can only get about a year out of them....I have a buddy with Azenis on his Acura and he loves them in the summer, but switches to snows in the winter since the Azenis aren't that great in the snow/ice
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Irish: If you get a tire that's larger than stock, won't that screw up your odometer reading? Or is there a way to correct that?
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Originally Posted by Bl_asd
y our cars are so light? coz we got nothing ?.........but some shxtty 16 ugly rims?..
Judging from ur car info and color... your car is a automatic right ? alot of em came with the convenience package which had like power seats, 16" aluminum wheels that look like hub caps, CD and tape stereo like the SE models, there was no leather or sunroofs on GXEs from the factory. 5spds are black or white in 2001 only. I know my car has no power seats, no sunroof, no leather, normal AC, and even had a tape player and only 4 speakers ! CD wasn't there but the engine was the same VQ30DE-K and since it wore such small wheels it moved soo fast stock ! Having driven SE 4th gen 5spds vs GXEs- the GXE feels alot faster in any trim, cause they are really light n our wheels are light even thou they steal. Alot of GXE 5spds put out around 195-200WHP stock.
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hmmmm i thought our cars have 222hp? I'm going to change my stock 16 ugly rims to 16" SSR competetion, same size BUT EVEN LIGHTER..yea i got auto trannny....sux..mine's used car..my dad wouldn't get me a manuel shift...can I swap out my stupid heavy auto to brand new manuel tranny from nissan dealer?
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Originally Posted by Arnold K.
Irish: If you get a tire that's larger than stock, won't that screw up your odometer reading? Or is there a way to correct that?
OEM for the 17's is 225/50/17 - 225 width with a 50% aspect ratio (112.5 mm)
I put on 235/45/17 - 235 width with a 45% aspect ratio (105.75mm)

the 6.75mm difference is "within spec" and has a negligible effect on odometer/speedometer reading. You get more than 15mm difference between a new tire vs. a tire that's at the wear limit!
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Sure U can do a tranny swap, I'm doing one on a 2000 SE auto, its going to be a 6spd conversion. I have light weight Enkei RPO1s in 17x8.5 size, they only weight like 13lbs each and with Azenis on the car is right down a slot car when it comes to taking corners at high speeds. 700 bux for doing a conversion on a 5thgen.
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Originally Posted by Bl_asd
hmmmm i thought our cars have 222hp? I'm going to change my stock 16 ugly rims to 16" SSR competetion, same size BUT EVEN LIGHTER..yea i got auto trannny....sux..mine's used car..my dad wouldn't get me a manuel shift...can I swap out my stupid heavy auto to brand new manuel tranny from nissan dealer?
the VQ30 puts out 222 hp at the crank, but not all of that makes it to the wheels....the actual hp you put down at the wheels (referred to as WHP) for an auto max is something like 160 WHP and about 190 for a manual tranny....things like transmission, A/C, alternator, electrical, belt pulleys, etc...all "steal" horsepower before it "gets to the wheels" to put is simply.
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700 bux for swaping out tranny? that's xxxxing cheaper than i thought...I thought it's gonna be 2k at least...
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Originally Posted by irish44j
OEM for the 17's is 225/50/17 - 225 width with a 50% aspect ratio (112.5 mm)
I put on 235/45/17 - 235 width with a 45% aspect ratio (105.75mm)

the 6.75mm difference is "within spec" and has a negligible effect on odometer/speedometer reading. You get more than 15mm difference between a new tire vs. a tire that's at the wear limit!
I put off getting Pirelli PNero Zeros because they were 225/45-17, and the tire calculator said my odometer would be misreading by 3 miles for every 70 miles I traveled.
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mine are 235/45 not 225/45....
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Reason most VQ30DE-Ks put down little HP is cause majority of them are autos, and 90% of the 5spds are SEs with 17" wheels that weight alot. Most SEs put down at the most 188-190WHP compared to GXEs. If ya look around there is 2 other .Org members who have a car like me- base GXE 5spd and they too put down 200WHP stock. 3.5Ls make the same power but little more TQ. There have always been cars that come out of the factory and put out less HP or more HP than they really should. And 200WHP is about 10% loss in HP through the driveline. Crank HP is with all the accessories installed, in dinosaur era ( muscle cars of the 70s ) they rated HP in Gross, which meant sh.it cause it was like with no accessories, no air intake, no exhaust even ! I've seen one of those "monsters" dyno one time, stock "350HP" Chevelle with a 350 Chevy small black put down outstanding 209WHP. That is some nasty drive train loss aint it ? Its like a 35% loss in power through the drive line. I walked the Same Chevelle in a roll on race- 4000lb car vs 3000lb car-Maxima at the HP advantage. Chevelle had me on torque ofcourse but when doing a roll on race its all bout HP and not so much torque.
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one other color, too

Originally Posted by BlackBIRDVQ
BTW no GXE had a OE sunroof on it. This is not a GLE cause all GLEs had fog lights. Its possible its a 5spd, cause its white. Only White and black where avalible with a 5spd. Most of them came with floor mats, mud flaps and a incabin microfilter. When GXE was equipped with a auto tranny the choice of colors broadened up a bit. My GXE is a 5spd with just mud flaps, floor mats, and microfilter. I bought mine brand new out the door with taxes and everything for 20743 bux.
5-speed Sunlit Sand GXE's were also available in 2000, maybe 2001. A friend has one with the 15in tires and hubcaps. The first run of 2000 SE's were only availble with the 16in five spokes, 17's were added (as an option, I think) part way through the model year. Most of the 2000 GLE's had the nasty 10 spokes you see on the GXE's of 2000/2001. A few late into the production run had the 5 spokes. All the 2001 GLE's have the five spokes. I think the GXE's that had the c/c package also came with the multispoke 16's. At least mine did. Not only are the rims nasty, I've somehow managed to crack a spoke on two of the rims. FL roads aren't THAT bad! LOL. Damn, guess I'll have to get some decent rims soon.
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Originally Posted by kirzan
Most of the 2001 GLE's had the nasty 10 spokes you see on the GXE's of 2000/2001. A few late into the production run had the 5 spokes. All the 2001 GLE's have the five spokes.
Mine's an early 2k GLE and it has the 5-spokes I think you are right about all 2k1 GLEs having them though.
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Originally Posted by Maximadmoiselle
Mine's an early 2k GLE and it has the 5-spokes I think you are right about all 2k1 GLEs having them though.
Lucky bastard! LOL. These nasty rims are way too much like the Chrysler Concorde rims. WTH was Nissan thinking? Okay, don't answer that.
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